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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:20 pm

Lozjudai wrote:The title of this chapter is hilarious :lol:
Sounds like a parody Doctor Who episode title, like "The Curse of Fatal Death" :lol:
FoolsGil wrote:Garlic Jr is stronger than King Piccolo, why would he serve him?
Salagir'd.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:28 pm

FoolsGil wrote:Garlic Jr is stronger than King Piccolo, why would he serve him?
In the traditional universe he was. But maybe something happened so differently in this universe that by the time Garlic Jr. popped up, Daimao had surpassed him?

But yeah, it's just the redundancy in the title (unless it really is something about this Daimao not being as evil as we think, which...kinda disappoints me if true, honestly) that kinda makes me smirk at it a bit. It's like that anime 'The Legend of the Legendary Heroes'. I haven't seen the show in question, it may be an awesome one (I'm told it is), but just the title alone makes me shake my head and chuckle a little, because of the redundancy of it.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:33 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Zephyr » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:49 pm

Could be Garlic Sr.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:05 pm

FoolsGil wrote:Garlic Jr is stronger than King Piccolo, why would he serve him?
You have no idea if Piccolo didn't become stronger than Garlic in that universe.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Sebastian » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:56 pm

I'm pretty sure that's not actually Garlic Jr, it's just one of Piccolo's henchmen that looks like him.

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Post by Tzigi » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:44 am

TonyTheTiger wrote:I think it's a passive voice problem. The title is probably meant to be corruption caused by the absolute evil. Or the absolute evil's corruption.
Nope. The title is right exactly the way it is. I was also surprised by it when I saw its name several months ago (it showed up for translation together with the one for the previous chapter). But when I read a part of it (experienced translators get access to a larger chunk of the chapter) it made it crystal clear that it isn't corruption caused by the absolute evil. Wait and see.
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FoolsGil wrote:Garlic Jr is stronger than King Piccolo, why would he serve him?
Salagir'd.
And that is what we were talking about earlier with the "can Gast reproduce?" problem. Every possibility is treated without the benefit of the doubt for DBM, Salagir is considered an incompetent tyrant. Just look here: there's nothing naming this character "Garlic Jr/Sr", it could be just a similar design and yet the answer is "it's Salagir's fault". I have no idea whether this is Garlic or not but I don't think that trying to imagine his whole story now and condemn Salagir on the basis of one picture is in any way appropriate.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Anyway I can get Asura's contact info? I'd sell a leg to get him to draw for me.
If you're really willing to pay then you can hire him. Also getting his contact info isn't hard - did you even bother to look in the "Authors" section of DBM's site? Don't answer - the fact that you have to ask about his contact info shows that you didn't even bother to search... But here you go: Asura's webpage and his email: Picben[at]libertysurf.fr

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:51 am

Tzigi wrote: And that is what we were talking about earlier with the "can Gast reproduce?" problem. Every possibility is treated without the benefit of the doubt for DBM, Salagir is considered an incompetent tyrant. Just look here: there's nothing naming this character "Garlic Jr/Sr", it could be just a similar design and yet the answer is "it's Salagir's fault". I have no idea whether this is Garlic or not but I don't think that trying to imagine his whole story now and condemn Salagir on the basis of one picture is in any way appropriate.
Indeed. I even refrained myself from commenting on that once again earlier just so that I wouldn't be constantly repeating myself.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:39 am

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FoolsGil wrote:Garlic Jr is stronger than King Piccolo, why would he serve him?
You have no idea if Piccolo didn't become stronger than Garlic in that universe.
Besides, it is Toei's Garlic Jr. is stronger than Piccolo. Salagir can make his own Garlic Jr. (if that really is Garlic Jr., and not a recycled design used for a cameo) as strong as he wants, since he's said before that he will change movie characters, and has done so with Bardock, Broli, Tapion, and Dr. Raichi.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Tzigi » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:50 am

And so we've got a confirmation:
Asura wrote:And NO it's not Garlic ^^ ( not the same color and some physical differences).
It's just a little reference to the original character.^^
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:59 am

Its more of a nod/cameo then.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:38 am

Tzigi wrote:And so we've got a confirmation:
Asura wrote:And NO it's not Garlic ^^ ( not the same color and some physical differences).
It's just a little reference to the original character.^^
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:57 pm

Tzigi wrote:And so we've got a confirmation:
Asura wrote:And NO it's not Garlic ^^ ( not the same color and some physical differences).
It's just a little reference to the original character.^^
Source.
Hmm, not going to complain, I would prefer it to be someone else, because Saligir's explanations leave a lot to be desired sometimes. :lol: Wouldn't want to hear how Garlic got under Piccolo's thrall.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Skar » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:27 pm

rereboy wrote:Anyway, if you really MUST have only one difference, then you could relate Nail's idea or decision with the fact that Cold was still ahead of the empire somehow. Perhaps the fact that Cold remained ahead of the empire, resulted in the empire being even more powerful than he was in the main timeline (more brutal conquests), which resulted in even the Namekians knowing about it from fleeing aliens that one time landed on their planet seeking supplies while escaping from the conquest of their homeworld and that then left Namek. Such an encounter and information would give Nail and the Namekians time to consider what to do in case the same thing happened in Namek and make them more susceptible to act.
That could work but it sorta takes away from the Namek's decision to fuse being the change in that universe. It seems like a lot of effort to rewrite that universe's history just so King Cold could last a little longer against Gast. I'm one of those fans who thinks King Cold being that much stronger than Frieza and Cooler is a plothole so for me I don't see a point in doing all those changes to U7 so he could be a bigger threat than them.
I merely offered the basic idea. It could be as fleshed out as needed. In my mind it would not be a contagious disease, but rather a chronic decease that sometimes affects members of Freeza's race, usually when they reach a relative old age, kind of like Parkinson in humans. But fortunately for members of Freeza's race, the decease becomes dormant or inactive when they use suppression forms, only fully manifesting itself or becoming active in their true form. So, members of their race afflicted with that decease remain in a suppression form at all times (especially since they wouldn't become stronger even if they transformed thanks to the decease) where it poses no threat to their longevity, power and well-being, and only has harmless and minor symptoms, like slightly altered taste and decreased or increased appetite.
I think this is a good explanation. It could explain why he didn't transform against Trunks. What would be the explanation for why he's as strong as #16? Does their power increase to that level with age? I can understand him training to control his power but I don't get how he ended up that much stronger than his sons.
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FoolsGil wrote:Garlic Jr is stronger than King Piccolo, why would he serve him?
Salagir'd.
...really? I know it's been confirmed that it isn't Garlic Jr but I don't see it being too farfetched for King Piccolo to surpass him. They were both weaker than Raditz so King Piccolo only needs to get 5-10x stronger to surpass him.
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Tzigi wrote:And so we've got a confirmation:
Asura wrote:And NO it's not Garlic ^^ ( not the same color and some physical differences).
It's just a little reference to the original character.^^
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Lame.
DBM never gets a break on this forum XP. If it was Garlic Jr then it makes no sense King Piccolo could surpass him but if it turns out to be just a similar looking character then it also sucks. If Asura redrew that page I'm afraid someone on here would find something else wrong with it like King Piccolo being too tall in comparison to Tambourine or something.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:12 am

Skar wrote:
I think this is a good explanation. It could explain why he didn't transform against Trunks. What would be the explanation for why he's as strong as #16? Does their power increase to that level with age? I can understand him training to control his power but I don't get how he ended up that much stronger than his sons.
He simply is. There's also no explanation for why Freeza is as strong as he is. He just naturally is. Cold would be the same, he would just happen to be stronger than his sons.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:21 am

To be honest, i don't really have that much problem with Cold extra forms, that are so strong, how many times did we see villains, that could easily destroy our heroes if they go all-out from very beginning, and instead they are so sure that just fraction of power is enough, that they can toy with them? (Vegeta, Freeza...Even Goku with Majin Buu) It make Cold stupid, yes, but it also make him DB character :)
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:15 am

coola wrote:To be honest, i don't really have that much problem with Cold extra forms, that are so strong, how many times did we see villains, that could easily destroy our heroes if they go all-out from very beginning, and instead they are so sure that just fraction of power is enough, that they can toy with them? (Vegeta, Freeza...Even Goku with Majin Buu) It make Cold stupid, yes, but it also make him DB character :)
It creates a plot-hole, because it is stated in the manga that Freeza was stronger than Cold in general, while DBM shows that Cold is actually stronger than Freeza.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:42 pm

I wonder how powerful Piccolo Daimo is in this universe? Without Goku he took over the Earth, so no one was around to stop him. He's going to get kill in one page from Gast.
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Post by FoolsGil » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:59 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder how powerful Piccolo Daimo is in this universe? Without Goku he took over the Earth, so no one was around to stop him. He's going to get kill in one page from Gast.
Thinking about it now, he would have had to stave off at least Dabura when Babidi came to Earth, so maybe stronger than Dabura?

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