Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

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Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:31 am

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:12 pm

Please Kojiro, just stop already.

If this release was also offered in 4x3 AR it wouldn't have received as much hate as it's gotten, but the general public loves it so that's what matters the most to FUNimation whether hardfans here like it or not.
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Post by Ajay » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:14 pm

If this release was 4:3, it'd still be full of smudgy shit-tier line art regardless. The aspect ratio is the least of its problems.
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Post by AnimeMaakuo » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:19 pm

bkev wrote:Don't worry. It's not. Kojiro Sasaki is prone to hyperbole. He probably grabbed that off youtube, looking at the jaggles.
There's no reason to make snarly remarks toward someone who's merely expressing his own opinion. Like he said earlier, he never criticized people who lashed out at him, so why should you? I find Kojiro Sasaki to be an incredible man. His English may not be as great as yours, so (if at all possible) please don't take it to heart. At the end of the day, though, does it really matter which version of Dragon Ball Z we prefer?

.. In my opinion, yes. I find 16x9 to be one of the most laughable things FUNimation has ever done with the show.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:03 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:If this release was 4:3, it'd still be full of smudgy shit-tier line art regardless. The aspect ratio is the least of its problems.
Yeah sure but if FUNimation had released this too in 4x3 AR then at least people would have an option and Dragon Box Z Vol. 2 would drop some of its value as people would order this due to being far more affordable and being also in fullscreen, too. Think of it as a cheap/budgety 4x3 AR which it would've been.

FUNimation just didn't make a 4x3 AR because they know it's not profitable enough to support it. If they do bring 4x3 AR back then it'll be in limited quantities.
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Post by SupremeSSJ » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:41 pm

I don't think vol. 2 would drop in price, the Blu rays would still be missing quite a few things. AR isn't the only thing wrong with this release, even if it was in 4x3 it would've most likely been ruined. I don't mean to put my 2 cents in but the fans need to understand and it isn't a crime in showing them the correct way. I've stated multiple times that this release is trash that didn't stop any of you from grabbing this. I hope that every one that picked up this release is happy but don't shoot people down when they try to show people the correct way.

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Post by Super Kal » Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:14 pm

do these releases also come with the Ocean Dub attached to them?

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Post by samuraix123 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:00 pm

Super Kal wrote:do these releases also come with the Ocean Dub attached to them?
No. Funimation did release Rock the Dragon set though if you're interested. though the movies are edited I believe. I have the singles and the movies uncut so I didn't feel the need to upgrade.
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Post by thomas1up » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:02 pm

Super Kal wrote:do these releases also come with the Ocean Dub attached to them?
Nope, Japanese, English + US Soundtrack and English + Japanese Soundtrack

The Ocean Dub wouldn't really fit without major editing/a re-dub by the Ocean crew considering how censored it is.
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Post by Super Kal » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:18 pm

samuraix123 wrote: No. Funimation did release Rock the Dragon set though if you're interested. though the movies are edited I believe. I have the singles and the movies uncut so I didn't feel the need to upgrade.
i actually had that collection at one point... gave it as a Christmas present to a couple of kids though :)
the reason i ask is because I'm seeing the Buu and Android Saga with Brian Drummond as the voice of Vegeta, and i know he did Vegeta's voice back in the day in the Ocean Dub... and the clip i was watching was in HD, and it was a new dub all-together, so I'm really confused about this... when did they start dubbing the series again?

I'm really sorry if this is in the wrong place. i just assumed it came from the blu ray release because the video i saw looks beautiful...
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Post by Ajay » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:25 pm

What you're seeing is just audio from the VHS rips that are floating around online synced up to Dragon Box or Blu-ray footage. There are no home releases of the Ocean/Westwood cast from the Artificial Humans onwards.

This is the dub that the UK, Canada and a few other countries got in place of FUNi's in-house cast. It aired at the same time as the FUNi dub was being produced (just about) and uses the same script near enough.
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Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:57 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:Please Kojiro, just stop already.
I'm not writing for you, so don't be so worried about it. Although, it would be nice if you would like to back up what you said about me with some logical argumentation. Any idiot can throw accusations.
dbboxkaifan wrote:If this release was also offered in 4x3 AR it wouldn't have received as much hate as it's gotten (...)
1. It would be 1:1 the same piece of garbage to me.
2. Your writing is more hateful towards people who criticize this release than their criticism is hateful towards this release. People are pointing out the flaws, referring to the common rules, not their own tastes, while you are just plain hating them for doing that without any serious reason.
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Post by thomas1up » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:43 am

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thomas1up wrote:Using a fake image won't help your argument then (...)
In this particular situation, nothing will help my argument. That's not my purpose since a long time ago. If you still don't understand what I was trying to say when I posted this screenshot - I cannot help you.
I truly don't understand, you claim that the future releases will look like that image you posted when in reality, we both know FUNi would never do a remaster that bad, had you used an example of bad remastering from an official release it'd make your post make more sense.
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Post by samuraix123 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:56 am

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Kojiro Sasaki wrote:
thomas1up wrote:Using a fake image won't help your argument then (...)
In this particular situation, nothing will help my argument. That's not my purpose since a long time ago. If you still don't understand what I was trying to say when I posted this screenshot - I cannot help you.
I truly don't understand, you claim that the future releases will look like that image you posted when in reality, we both know FUNi would never do a remaster that bad, had you used an example of bad remastering from an official release it'd make your post make more sense.
While I would normally agree with you I have to say when I see ''Funi would never do a remaster that bad'' this comes to mind.
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Post by ParkerAL » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:58 am

I'm guessing he used the shot to make a joke about his general opinion of where Funimation's releases might head, similar to this shot from earlier in this thread:
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:59 am

thomas1up wrote:I truly don't understand, you claim that the future releases will look like that image you posted when in reality, we both know FUNi would never do a remaster that bad, had you used an example of bad remastering from an official release it'd make your post make more sense.
He's trying to imply that FUNimation would do a release with that horrific video quality, but really they know it damn well not to.
While I would normally agree with you I have to say when I see ''Funi would never do a remaster that bad'' this comes to mind.
That's in the past and they've learnt their lesson.
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Post by samuraix123 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:07 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
thomas1up wrote:I truly don't understand, you claim that the future releases will look like that image you posted when in reality, we both know FUNi would never do a remaster that bad, had you used an example of bad remastering from an official release it'd make your post make more sense.
He's trying to imply that FUNimation would do a release with that horrific video quality, but really they know it damn well not to.
While I would normally agree with you I have to say when I see ''Funi would never do a remaster that bad'' this comes to mind.
That's in the past and they've learnt their lesson.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not with that last statement haha :P I mean, I don't know...I heard people say that Funimation learned their lesson with cropping releases and look at the new Blu-rays? lol I do hope you're right though about them being THAT bad. they should have never looked like that period. :lol:
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Post by ParkerAL » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:10 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:If this release was also offered in 4x3 AR it wouldn't have received as much hate as it's gotten, but the general public loves it so that's what matters the most to FUNimation whether hardfans here like it or not.

People would buy the release no matter what aspect ratio it was in. The Season Blu rays succeeded where the Level Sets failed not because of the change in quality, but because of the timing of the release, better marketing, cheaper pricing and more episodes included in each set.

Sure, some people might complain that it's not in widescreen after buying it, but if they don't care much about quality to begin with (as I have to assume), the format being in standard definition alone probably won't dissuade many from buying.
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Post by ect5150 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:59 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:That's in the past and they've learnt their lesson.
This has to be sarcasm given some recent pages discussed FUNI's leaving titles off of the title cards. Yeah... they are putting out a product (again) that no one previewed before it went out the door. Bravo FUNI! :clap: This is why people worry about the upcoming Cowboy BeeBop release, correct?
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Post by samuraix123 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:15 pm

ect5150 wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:That's in the past and they've learnt their lesson.
This has to be sarcasm given some recent pages discussed FUNI's leaving titles off of the title cards. Yeah... they are putting out a product (again) that no one previewed before it went out the door. Bravo FUNI! :clap: This is why people worry about the upcoming Cowboy BeeBop release, correct?
Whoa! There was more than 1 missing?
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