Beerus vs. Super 17

[Low Tone G]

Could Super 17 absorb an attack from Beerus, which is based on God Ki? If He could, then could he overwhelm Beerus and pull a win, counting that no one else would help Beerus in the fight?

[Doctor.]

Could 19 absorb a Big Bang Attack from SSJ Vegeta? Hypothetically yes, but Vegeta only used it when he knew it wouldn't fail. Same case here. Beerus is a bit stronger, but I doubt he'll go with blasts from the start.

[Hugo Boss]

#17 would shot Beerus on the face with his flash bomber, anger him and, when Beerus proceed to destroy the Earth with his super energy ball, #17 would try to absorb the energy (like Goku did) but explode in the process. The Earth would remain unscathed.

[ImmaDeker]

Could Super 17 absorb an attack from Beerus, which is based on God Ki? If He could, then could he overwhelm Beerus and pull a win, counting that no one else would help Beerus in the fight?

I want to say yes because an energy absorbing robot made in Hell that can suck up God powers is the most metal shit I've ever heard.

[Diotor]

I doubt Super 17 would be able to handle the level of power thrown at him by Beerus, but it's an interesting concept.

Saying that, I doubt Beerus would even bother to use a ki blast on him.

[Super SaiyaJon]

Beerus fires a Ki blast and 17 absorbs it. So he elbows 17 through the stomach and then fires a Ki blast.
OR
Beerus fires a Ki blast and 17 overloads himself and explodes.
OR
Beerus doesn't even bother and just elbows 17 through the stomach and then fires a Ki blast.

[EliteWarrior]

i sink dat bills vins dis becaze hi hes godli ki energi.
and goku sad dat no mater what pawer level u hav u cant win aganst bills

[Zephyr]

Could Super 17 absorb an attack from Beerus, which is based on God Ki??

I don't believe that he would be able to absorb divine ki, as I doubt Gero and Myuu had the knowledge of such energy when constructing him.

Though I could see god ki-based androids/cyborgs being a perfect way to logically raise the stakes at this point in the story.

[Friezacooler]

If a Fodder ssj Vegeta could surprise and own Bills, wouldn't be surprised if Bills gets murked by super 17.

[KentalSSJ6]

Could Super 17 absorb an attack from Beerus, which is based on God Ki??

I don't believe that he would be able to absorb divine ki, as I doubt Gero and Myuu had the knowledge of such energy when constructing him.

Though I could see god ki-based androids/cyborgs being a perfect way to logically raise the stakes at this point in the story.

And with Goku absorbing SSJG and Bulma able to make seemingly anything, I don't see making godly ki based technology impossible.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

If a Fodder ssj Vegeta could surprise and own Bills, wouldn't be surprised if Bills gets murked by super 17.

Beerus was owned by SS(maybe 2?) Vegeta? The assault caught the Hakaishin by surprise, but it literally did nothing to him.

[MasterVampire]

Super 17 probably wouldn't be able to handle it since its Godly Ki or some bs.

[Friezacooler]

Super 17 would do better than Vegeta who surpassed Buuhan in his SSJ2 form lol, basing it on the fact that Goku has reached his limit in his SSJ3 form after 5 years training on king Kai's planet? Well Buuhan's PL level isn't far of as they can sense him right?

[Hitiro]

Super 17 would do better than Vegeta who surpassed Buuhan in his SSJ2 form lol, basing it on the fact that Goku has reached his limit in his SSJ3 form after 5 years training on king Kai's planet? Well Buuhan's PL level isn't far of as they can sense him right?

I don't think Vegeta surpassed Boohan. Maybe stronger than Gohan. How would you even be able to tell anyway? We also don't know how strong Goku had gotten within the 5 years. He could still be under Gohan for all we know. I also don't know what you mean with the "they can sense him" thing. Are you trying to say that if there is a huge difference between someone and their opponent that you won't be able to sense them? I don't think there has ever been anything in the manga or otherwise to state a battlepower vastly higher than someone elses makes it so that the other person can't sense them.

We only get that Beerus can't be sensed because he has Godly Ki as opposed to regular Ki. As such you need some other way to sense him because the regular way does not allow you to. And Super 17 would still not put up much of a fight. The only reason Vegeta knocked Beerus back was because he was caught off-guard and was, at the time, extremely suppressed. Beerus only gets to 70% of his power during the fight with SSJGod Goku. And he still had a major upper hand. In the GT perfect files they have SSJ Vegetto as strong as SSJ4 Goku. During the fight with Super 17, SSJ4 Goku actually had the advantage before he powered Super 17 up with Ki attacks. And Beerus is supposed to surpass SSJ Vegetto according to the whole "A being stronger than any other in the history of DBZ appears." Introduction we get.

So it is highly likely that Super 17 will get curb stomped.

[Low Tone G]

Super 17 would do better than Vegeta who surpassed Buuhan in his SSJ2 form lol, basing it on the fact that Goku has reached his limit in his SSJ3 form after 5 years training on king Kai's planet? Well Buuhan's PL level isn't far of as they can sense him right?

I don't think Vegeta surpassed Boohan. Maybe stronger than Gohan. How would you even be able to tell anyway? We also don't know how strong Goku had gotten within the 5 years. He could still be under Gohan for all we know. I also don't know what you mean with the "they can sense him" thing. Are you trying to say that if there is a huge difference between someone and their opponent that you won't be able to sense them? I don't think there has ever been anything in the manga or otherwise to state a battlepower vastly higher than someone elses makes it so that the other person can't sense them.

We only get that Beerus can't be sensed because he has Godly Ki as opposed to regular Ki. As such you need some other way to sense him because the regular way does not allow you to. And Super 17 would still not put up much of a fight. The only reason Vegeta knocked Beerus back was because he was caught off-guard and was, at the time, extremely suppressed. Beerus only gets to 70% of his power during the fight with SSJGod Goku. And he still had a major upper hand. In the GT perfect files they have SSJ Vegetto as strong as SSJ4 Goku. During the fight with Super 17, SSJ4 Goku actually had the advantage before he powered Super 17 up with Ki attacks. And Beerus is supposed to surpass SSJ Vegetto according to the whole "A being stronger than any other in the history of DBZ appears." Introduction we get.

So it is highly likely that Super 17 will get curb stomped.

Of course he is near as strong like Beerus, but that's why was appealing to the skill of Super 17 to absorb Ki, that hat makes him stronger.

"A being stronger than any other in the history of DBZ appears."

Not only that but Goku also said that Vegetto is not a match for Beerus in the extended edition. In the eng dub it's also said that Goku does not give a chance for the fusion of him and Vegeta.
In the dub he says something like this:

I only know one way to get stronger. I have to perform fusion with Vegeta again. No! I don't even think that would give me a chance.

I definitely think that Toriyama meant there Vegetto, because he's based on his idea, and Gogeta does not appear in the manga anywhere. And I also said that there were one more pair of potaras, so Vegetto was possible.

[Hitiro]

Of course he is near as strong like Beerus, but that's why was appealing to the skill of Super 17 to absorb Ki, that hat makes him stronger.

Well, that absorbing ability would surely be stressed to its limits with a Ki attack from Beerus. So I don't think Super 17 would survive that much energy.

Not only that but Goku also said that Vegetto is not a match for Beerus in the extended edition. In the eng dub it's also said that Goku does not give a chance for the fusion of him and Vegeta.
In the dub he says something like this:

I only know one way to get stronger. I have to perform fusion with Vegeta again. No! I don't even think that would give me a chance.

I definitely think that Toriyama meant there Vegetto, because he's based on his idea, and Gogeta does not appear in the manga anywhere. And I also said that there were one more apir of potaras, so Vegetto was possible.

There are no potara's in existence. the last two pairs were destroyed. So Vegetto is not possible. And I don't see why Gogeta not being in the manga anywhere means Goku can't be talking about him. Goku said before the boys fused that they'd be strong enough to do something as Gotenks. He was basing that off of his experience with seeing people use the fusion dance in heaven. I doubt he doesn't know where a SSJ Gogeta sits in regard to his friends. It's more than likely that SSJ Gogeta would be between SSJ Gotenks and Gohan.

[dbgtFO]

There are no potara's in existence. the last two pairs were destroyed. So Vegetto is not possible.

They could just create new ones.

[Kamiccolo9]

There are no potara's in existence.

There were 3 pairs that we saw in DBZ: Old Kaioshin's, Kibito's, and Kaioshin's. The former, and one from each of the latter were destroyed. There should still be one set left, the earrings that Kaioshin and Kibito took off before they fused.

[Hitiro]

There are no potara's in existence.

There were 3 pairs that we saw in DBZ: Old Kaioshin's, Kibito's, and Kaioshin's. The former, and one from each of the latter were destroyed. There should still be one set left, the earrings that Kaioshin and Kibito took off before they fused.

What makes you think that Kibito's were potara and not cheap imitations? Because Gohan also had "Potara" and I'm pretty sure something so magical would not be able to be popped into existence like that without any effort. Surely it is only the Kaioshin's that wear actual Potara.

[Kamiccolo9]

There are no potara's in existence.

There were 3 pairs that we saw in DBZ: Old Kaioshin's, Kibito's, and Kaioshin's. The former, and one from each of the latter were destroyed. There should still be one set left, the earrings that Kaioshin and Kibito took off before they fused.

What makes you think that Kibito's were potara and not cheap imitations? Because Gohan also had "Potara" and I'm pretty sure something so magical would not be able to be popped into existence like that without any effort. Surely it is only the Kaioshin's that wear actual Potara.

Because one of Kibito's earrings was used for his fusion with Kaioshin?