Do the new movies mess with the original ending?

[sintzu]

It's DBZ after all, and the films have never made much sense alongside the actual series.

The new movies are being written to be part of the series by the series creator unlike the old movies which were written by the studio as side stories.

[Marco Polo]

It's DBZ after all, and the films have never made much sense alongside the actual series.

The new movies are being written to be part of the series by the series creator unlike the old movies which were written by the studio as side stories.

The new movies are written by BOTH the studio and the series creator. The studio even writes first actually, and then the series creator rewrites what he wants to change, if he feels like the studio's ideas can be improved.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The new movies are written by BOTH the studio and the series creator. The studio even writes first actually, and then the series creator rewrites what he wants to change, if he feels like the studio's ideas can be improved.

That's how Battle of Gods was written. First by Watanabe, almost completely rewritten by Toriyama, then adapted to script format by Watanabe while adding in the DB theft subplot (which Toriyama also tweaked to Pilaf rather than just some thugs).

There's nothing to suggest that DBZ2015 isn't being solely done by Toriyama though. There's nothing about an actual script writer this time around, so far anyway.

[hleV]

Whenever I see this type of question I feel like the biggest concern is the whole Uub situation. And I think that comes from people assuming that Uub himself is only limited to Kid Boo's level of strength because he's his reincarnation. People have to remember that when we first see Piccolo Jr fight he was already a lot stronger than his dad/former self. So maybe Goku was expecting a similar case with Uub which would explain why he was kinda surprised that the poor kid couldn't even fly let alone control his power.

Goku told Vegeta that someone else besides them might win the TB, clearly talking about Oob. Then Goku revealed to have expected Oob to have Boo's power/potential. And in terms of power/potential, Oob turned out to be as amazing as Goku expected.

[Gotham22]

Well Goku never transforms during he fight with Uub at 28th Tenkaichi Budokai. So now when you watch the fight with Uub, Goku might have his God Power.

[dbzfan7]

I think they have to have SSJ God fade away. If it doesn't then there's no point for Oob at all. I don't think any known character can reach Goku's new level without the god power up (Not counting future people in the upcoming movie)

[Low Tone G]

I think they have to have SSJ God fade away. If it doesn't then there's no point for Oob at all. I don't think any known character can reach Goku's new level without the god power up (Not counting future people in the upcoming movie)

Yes, that's I'm assuming myself too. The only way for Uub to be a potent successor of Goku if he somehow enters in possession of God Ki.(If that might exist for a human, but that's too weird for humans, who were vastly out-classed after Frieza saga.) Uub could be a good choice having Kid Buu's potential and having God Ki, because the other humans are clearly too old by now, and Maybe Uub can wish for eternal life. It would be very logical for Uub to defend the Earth, because he is a human, but the God ki complicates the issue.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Well Goku never transforms during he fight with Uub at 28th Tenkaichi Budokai. So now when you watch the fight with Uub, Goku might have his God Power.

Goku didn't transform because Oob couldn't control properly his power. If Goku was using his God power, then Oob would never stand a chance in winning the tournament.

[MCDaveG]

Well, they don't. More so, that our in-universe look on power levels and such doesn't work like that.
Ideas like: ''Goku was SSJ God and he would wipe the floor with Uub'' is only in the heads of people, that are geeks into the in-universe explanations, but the story is not that complicated.
Goku attained SSJ God once, same as he did SSJ3 and he just fought with Uub testing his strength - the end

But I'm seriously angry, that I won't see the characters after Z in some canon work except for the crazy GT.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Well, they don't. More so, that our in-universe look on power levels and such doesn't work like that.
Ideas like: ''Goku was SSJ God and he would wipe the floor with Uub'' is only in the heads of people, that are geeks into the in-universe explanations, but the story is not that complicated.
Goku attained SSJ God once, same as he did SSJ3 and he just fought with Uub testing his strength - the end

Except that Goku considered the possibility of losing to Oob, which wouldn't be the case if Goku was a God.

[MCDaveG]

Well, they don't. More so, that our in-universe look on power levels and such doesn't work like that.
Ideas like: ''Goku was SSJ God and he would wipe the floor with Uub'' is only in the heads of people, that are geeks into the in-universe explanations, but the story is not that complicated.
Goku attained SSJ God once, same as he did SSJ3 and he just fought with Uub testing his strength - the end

Except that Goku considered the possibility of losing to Oob, which wouldn't be the case if Goku was a God.

Which is true in fan's in-universe, but that's speculation.
Let's see the next movie and we'll see how it expands on the new God ability.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Which is true in fan's in-universe, but that's speculation.

How is it speculation?

• SS3 Goku & Pure Boo were around the same level - Fact, stated in the manga
• As a Super Saiyan God, Goku is far, far stronger than he was when he was a Super Saiyan 3 - Fact, shown in the movie.
• Goku expected Oob to be very strong, strong enough to prove Goku such a challenge to be big enough for him to lose, and Oob met Goku's expectations power-wise, except that he wasn't skilled enough to control his power - Fact, all stated in the manga.

The only way for this to make sense is either assume that Goku lost God, or that Oob is for some reason much, much stronger than Pure Boo.

And no, they didn't have the "No Super Saiyan" rule this time, since they would fight Mr. Boo, and beat him if they are strong enough. And Boo is nowhere near the base Saiyans.

[RandomGuy96]

Or, BOG never happened.

[Zephyr]

Or, BOG never happened.

Toriyama would likely disagree.

[RandomGuy96]

Or, BOG never happened.

Toriyama would likely disagree.

The manga would likely disagree if Toriyama never said that. Not that he ever did.

[MCDaveG]

Well, I don't care, it's only manga. That is my whole issue behind my statements.
I can take facts in series like UC Gundam as it is actually science fiction with huge A. C. Clarke's flavour and huge robots.
But in lighthearted shonen where anyone new is stronger of course, I really don't care. Also I watch the fun same as Kung Fu movies.
What power level does Jet Li have in Once Upon a Time in China II? I don't know, but he is skilled with kung fu.
Also, we don't even know how SSJ God works later. Maybe Goku lost it, maybe not....
So it's up to you guys.

[dario03]

I would of had BoG involve some time travel and cause another timeline.
One timeline would of been the old ending and BoG never happened (Beerus overslept or something)
And the new one where the time travel some how caused Beerus to not over sleep and lead to BoG. Heck they could of used that as a way to jam future Trunks in, or just been a whole different character, or even something that just happens that doesn't even involve anybody in the movie after that.

I guess they could still do that too. Just have another movie take place before BoG.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Figuring out the actual details of time travel in DB is already a pain. BOG didn't need to add to the timeline mess the Cell Arc caused.

[dario03]

Wouldn't need to be much of a mess. Like I said one timeline would have the old ending. The new one would carry on and allow new material to do whatever.

[xmysticgohanx]

I really hope Goku doesn't lose his god powers, I'd rather have the 28th or whatever it is be retconned