Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[coola]

In fan fiction story Piccolo's Choice Piccolo also managed to fuse with Kami, despite being evil, he just grabbed and absorbed him. So i dont mind Demon King Piccolo fuse with Kami

[FoolsGil]

Lol, anyone else reminded of the Bojack v Cell fight?

I'm curious, what are your guys favorite and least favorite characters?

Boo is probably my favorite, while Bra and Vegetto are probably my least favorites.

I like both versions of Pan. Crazy Awesome, can fight dirty, yep they are my favorites. I dislike the entire Heliote Universe for their utter lack of sense in this entire tournament.

[RandomGuy96]

In fan fiction story Piccolo's Choice Piccolo also managed to fuse with Kami, despite being evil, he just grabbed and absorbed him. So i dont mind Demon King Piccolo fuse with Kami

If that were possible, Kami could have just absorbed Daimao the minute the last god of Earth died. Or absorbed Piccolo after Goku had him incapacitated.

[DNA]

This fan comic makes me cringe, although I can't stop reading it. Apart from the boring, dragged out, predictable fights, there's also this stupid bullshit, canon-ignoring, ass-pull facts. If Piccolo Daimao absorbed Kami, he would instantly revert back into being a full fledged Namekian and would not be pure evil anymore. Between both entities conflicting emotions and vast life experience, it'll probably be a brooding asshole, more stoic than "regular" Piccolo, but never "I'm the King of Evil, a Demon!". It's stuff like this for the sake of "oh but it's so cool" that makes me really cringe.

I'd rather they took ideas from Supersonic Warriors and used that Piccolo, you know, the guy who asked Porunga to revive Daimao, only to defeat him and absorb him making him almost as strong as Evil Buu? And then on the next game Babibi mind controlled him making him so powerful that he killed Babidi, resuscitated some villains and bossed Buu around. THAT'S a more interesting character than "Oh it's Piccolo Daimao but stronger! Because raisins! So cool!". Just no.

[Marco Polo]

I'm sure they'll explain how he merged with Kami.

[RandomGuy96]

I'd rather they took ideas from Supersonic Warriors and used that Piccolo, you know, the guy who asked Porunga to revive Daimao, only to defeat him and absorb him making him almost as strong as Evil Buu? And then on the next game Babibi mind controlled him making him so powerful that he killed Babidi, resuscitated some villains and bossed Buu around. THAT'S a more interesting character than "Oh it's Piccolo Daimao but stronger! Because raisins! So cool!". Just no.

Daimao and Jr. share a soul, so that wouldn't work, and even if it did, it wouldn't make him anywhere near as strong as Evil Boo even if this was Buu arc Piccolo. That what-if was really stupid.

[DNA]

I'd rather they took ideas from Supersonic Warriors and used that Piccolo, you know, the guy who asked Porunga to revive Daimao, only to defeat him and absorb him making him almost as strong as Evil Buu? And then on the next game Babibi mind controlled him making him so powerful that he killed Babidi, resuscitated some villains and bossed Buu around. THAT'S a more interesting character than "Oh it's Piccolo Daimao but stronger! Because raisins! So cool!". Just no.

Daimao and Jr. share a soul, so that wouldn't work, and even if it did, it wouldn't make him anywhere near as strong as Evil Boo even if this was Buu arc Piccolo. That what-if was really stupid.

And this one isn't? The deal between Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo Junior was never fully explained, just heavily implied. Junior is supposed to be Daimao revived, yet his personality is different, he's not a full demon (since people he kills do not go to Limbo) and he's a Warrior Type instead of Dragon Clan. I could easily accept Porunga (a more powerful dragon) being able to bring forth whatever's left of Daimao's essence and give him a body, thus giving Piccolo Junior, already more powerful than a Super Saiyan, a significant boost. Sure, he wouldn't be near Evil Buu, (who defeated him anyway, we have no real way of knowing how much difference between them there was supposed to be) yet, a considerable powerhouse. And then you have to consider the "Majin" boost, making him a "Hakaioji" (since his father was a Demon King, he would be a Prince), it would further draw out his immense power, possibly surpassing Hakaioji Vegeta. Of course these are all subjective theories of a flimsy video game storyline, what I'm saying is that this still would make more sense and be more interesting, in my opinion.

Sure you can hope for an explanation, but Multiverse is not known for plausible explanations, other than "I thought this would be cool".

[RandomGuy96]

I'd rather they took ideas from Supersonic Warriors and used that Piccolo, you know, the guy who asked Porunga to revive Daimao, only to defeat him and absorb him making him almost as strong as Evil Buu? And then on the next game Babibi mind controlled him making him so powerful that he killed Babidi, resuscitated some villains and bossed Buu around. THAT'S a more interesting character than "Oh it's Piccolo Daimao but stronger! Because raisins! So cool!". Just no.

Daimao and Jr. share a soul, so that wouldn't work, and even if it did, it wouldn't make him anywhere near as strong as Evil Boo even if this was Buu arc Piccolo. That what-if was really stupid.

And this one isn't? The deal between Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo Junior was never fully explained, just heavily implied. Junior is supposed to be Daimao revived, yet his personality is different, he's not a full demon (since people he kills do not go to Limbo) and he's a Warrior Type instead of Dragon Clan. I could easily accept Porunga (a more powerful dragon) being able to bring forth whatever's left of Daimao's essence and give him a body, thus giving Piccolo Junior, already more powerful than a Super Saiyan, a significant boost. Sure, he wouldn't be near Evil Buu, (who defeated him anyway, we have no real way of knowing how much difference between them there was supposed to be) yet, a considerable powerhouse. And then you have to consider the "Majin" boost, making him a "Hakaioji" (since his father was a Demon King, he would be a Prince), it would further draw out his immense power, possibly surpassing Hakaioji Vegeta. Of course these are all subjective theories of a flimsy video game storyline, what I'm saying is that this still would make more sense and be more interesting, in my opinion.

Sure you can hope for an explanation, but Multiverse is not known for plausible explanations, other than "I thought this would be cool".

He's specifically called Daimao's reincarnation. So no, they can't merge nor they can exist at the same time. Even if he wasn't, Daimao should have been filtered through Hell and reincarnated by now. Yes, DBM doesn't give a shit, as the last fight showed us, but that's no excuse to put in something even more illogical.

Buu arc Piccolo was nothing to Kaioshin, who was nothing to the Super Saiyans. Going by how much of a boost merging with Kami was to Piccolo, and how much of a boost the Majin power-up was to Vegeta, Piccolo likely wouldn't even be as strong as pre-Majin SS Vegeta. So he'd still get ragdolled by Dabra, to say nothing of any form of Buu. Unless he just has way more hidden power than Vegeta, which wouldn't make much sense given the events of the Cell arc.

[DNA]

He's specifically called Daimao's reincarnation. So no, they can't merge nor they can exist at the same time. Even if he wasn't, Daimao should have been filtered through Hell and reincarnated by now. Yes, DBM doesn't give a shit, as the last fight showed us, but that's no excuse to put in something even more illogical.

Yeah, sure, he is "specifically" called Daimao's reincarnation, but is he? Many things are proclaimed during the course of Dragon Ball that aren't exactly 100% truth. As for how Hell works, between the manga and the anime, there's a lot to take into consideration. It really depends on which continuity you wish to follow to make sense of what story you're trying to tell.

Buu arc Piccolo was nothing to Kaioshin(...)

Debatable, I always took that scene as being a matter of respect rather then East Kaioshin being that much stronger. Although with the new additions to the franchise, it may have been a question of East Kaioshin having a higher God Power and not exactly raw Ki Power. There's this silly theory I have that Pure Buu actually negates God Power...

Going by how much of a boost merging with Kami was to Piccolo, and how much of a boost the Majin power-up was to Vegeta, Piccolo likely wouldn't even be as strong as pre-Majin SS Vegeta. So he'd still get ragdolled by Dabra, to say nothing of any form of Buu. Unless he just has way more hidden power than Vegeta, which wouldn't make much sense given the events of the Cell arc.

As much as your opinion is solid, you do know that power levels and power boosts never made much sense during the series, they all seemed arbitrary, look at Goku's power boosts during Namek Arc. I mean, look at your signature, Herms' quote says it all. You really can't take power levels and power boosts that seriously in this franchise. Even less nowadays with all the Bardock and Broli forms.

[Doctor.]

So boring.

It's the same Daimao... but more powerful. Why? That's a waste of a character slot. He's not different at all. He seems to learn a bit more about Namek, but otherwise he's still the same douchebag. The fusion should have changed his personality a bit. We might have gotten a more neutral Daimao, or a less evil version. One that might actually feel a bit of guilt for his actions. Maybe a dual personality, one representing Kami and the other Daimao. Nope.

[Marco Polo]

Maybe a dual personality, one representing Kami and the other Daimao.

I'm not saying he has a dual personality, but if he does, it may just not have manifested yet.

[RandomGuy96]

Debatable, I always took that scene as being a matter of respect rather then East Kaioshin being that much stronger. Although with the new additions to the franchise, it may have been a question of East Kaioshin having a higher God Power and not exactly raw Ki Power. There's this silly theory I have that Pure Buu actually negates God Power...

As many others (most notably Herms) have pointed out, it's not really debatable. Piccolo flat-out says Kaioshin is way stronger than him, and it's just left at that. He never takes it back, he backs this statement up to Goku immediately after, and the phrase he uses ("our dimensions are too different") is used later in the arc to describe another enormous strength difference.

Yeah, sure, he is "specifically" called Daimao's reincarnation, but is he? Many things are proclaimed during the course of Dragon Ball that aren't exactly 100% truth. As for how Hell works, between the manga and the anime, there's a lot to take into consideration. It really depends on which continuity you wish to follow to make sense of what story you're trying to tell.

DBM is supposed to be based on the manga, and the idea that you can simply disregard what is outright said in the manga is stupid.

As much as your opinion is solid, you do know that power levels and power boosts never made much sense during the series, they all seemed arbitrary, look at Goku's power boosts during Namek Arc. I mean, look at your signature, Herms' quote says it all. You really can't take power levels and power boosts that seriously in this franchise. Even less nowadays with all the Bardock and Broli forms.

I was just pointing out that those boosts would have no logical reason for making Piccolo even the least bit relevant even if he could get them. "Goku got a big boost on Namek" isn't an excuse, because he boosted himself via near-death power ups, which Piccolo can't use. On the other hand, we've seen the effects of Piccolo merging with his former self, and the effects of someone getting their hidden power unlocked by Babidi. They're not anywhere near significant enough to justify Piccolo getting stronger than even SS Goku in the Buu arc.

You mean the Bardock and Broly forms that are limited to the video games?

[DNA]

DBM is supposed to be based on the manga, and the idea that you can simply disregard what is outright said in the manga is stupid.

Getting real close to personal insults there buddy. Anime disregards facts stated in the manga many times, so does Multiverse, even more often. In addition to that, even though Salagir claims Multiverse to be based on the manga, movie characters are everywhere, so that statement goes out the window instantly, not to mention the many instances of him ignoring facts in order to make something "look cool". Your argument is invalid in this case since we are discussing a fan work that completely disregards basic canonical facts.

You mean the Bardock and Broly forms that are limited to the video games?

Yeah, just like the storyline I was mentioning before. You either take the franchise as a whole, or don't. Don't go around nitpicking what you like to validate your arguments. Once again, you're making a big deal out of something that not only is not canonical but has also ignored established canon multiple times. You have to be willing to bend canon rules slightly in this case.

[Fionordequester]

Anime disregards facts stated in the manga many times...

And in my opinion, it usually did that to it's detriment. Like when we got dumb stuff like "Super Kaioken", and the like, as well as that whole "Pure Buu is stronger than Super Buu" nonsense.

[DNA]

Anime disregards facts stated in the manga many times...

And in my opinion, it usually did that to it's detriment. Like when we got dumb stuff like "Super Kaioken", and the like, as well as that whole "Pure Buu is stronger than Super Buu" nonsense.

Sure, but we are not discussing if said choices were good or bad. Although they are all subjected to personal opinions.

[RandomGuy96]

Getting real close to personal insults there buddy. Anime disregards facts stated in the manga many times, so does Multiverse, even more often. In addition to that, even though Salagir claims Multiverse to be based on the manga, movie characters are everywhere, so that statement goes out the window instantly, not to mention the many instances of him ignoring facts in order to make something "look cool". Your argument is invalid in this case since we are discussing a fan work that completely disregards basic canonical facts.

I thought the whole point of this suggestion was to be less stupid than what we're getting?

[DNA]

I thought the whole point of this suggestion was to be less stupid than what we're getting?

Again, completely subjective to each person's opinion. I happen to think it's better and more interesting. Are you implying my opinion is stupid?

[DarkPrince_92]

Just caught back up. Vegeta got destroyed... should've known better.

This is interesting, Piccolo Daimao still has Kami as a part of him. But he can't be the same is the Piccolo we know right? He doesn't have Nail. Wouldn't that make him weaker? Even if he had Nail, he'd be weaker. I don't know what's going on anymore.

[RandomGuy96]

I thought the whole point of this suggestion was to be less stupid than what we're getting?

Again, completely subjective to each person's opinion. I happen to think it's better and more interesting. Are you implying my opinion is stupid?

Whenever I bring up any problems with it, you just say that DBM repeatedly contradicts the manga as an excuse. Isn't that a bad thing?

[DNA]

I thought the whole point of this suggestion was to be less stupid than what we're getting?

Again, completely subjective to each person's opinion. I happen to think it's better and more interesting. Are you implying my opinion is stupid?

Whenever I bring up any problems with it, you just say that DBM repeatedly contradicts the manga as an excuse. Isn't that a bad thing?

Depends on the contradiction and who's done it. You're comparing fully endorsed licensed products to a fan made story. If nothing else, the events I've mentioned happened in the game's continuity, or at least Supersonic Warriors' multiple continuities, which are licensed products that fit into the franchise whether we like it or not. Multiverse is a fan manga that we can easily ignore, along with any shitty characters and contradictions.