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Re: Manga UK Announce DBZ Battle of Gods DVD/Bluray release

Post by Bullza » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:00 pm

These complaints are so petty that it's hilarious for me to read. "Oh no! The menu screen! The thing that I'll only need to see for a few seconds before starting the movie, it doesnt look exceptional as I had hoped for! I think I'll have to import the US version now instead because how we supposed to accept this travesty that is called a "menu screen"!"

What a bunch of snobs.

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Post by 90sDBZ » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:07 pm

Bullza wrote:These complaints are so petty that it's hilarious for me to read. "Oh no! The menu screen! The thing that I'll only need to see for a few seconds before starting the movie, it doesnt look exceptional as I had hoped for! I think I'll have to import the US version now instead because how we supposed to accept this travesty that is called a "menu screen"!"

What a bunch of snobs.
I agree that the complaints do seem quite petty. I'm just glad we're getting a proper release. I still remember the days when the only release we got was the Big Green movies.

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Post by Bullza » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:26 pm

It's incredibly petty. Nobody buys movies for what the menu screen looks like, it's what you see for a matter of seconds before starting the movie so who cares what it looks like. People should be grateful to even get it as quickly as they are unlike the series which came years after US got it.

Movies like Naruto Blood Prison which came out February this year in US is something UK won't get until December. One Piece Film Z which came out in September in US has no mention of a release date in UK same with this Road to Ninja that comes out in US this month but has no mention of a release date in UK either.

We could have easily have had to wait until June or July next year to get this but were lucky enough to get it next week but instead of being happy about it we get snobby complaints about the irrelevant menu screen.

Pathetic.

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Post by VegettoEX » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:06 pm

The complaints seem far more focused on the fact that a 5.1 surround track is not included for the JP theatrical cut, despite being right there on the FUNimation release... which this is otherwise just a direct copy of in terms of content.

That's a legitimate complaint that you've 100% ignored in your sarcastic, dismissive, rude response.
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Post by LostTimeLord » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:18 pm

Bullza wrote:These complaints are so petty that it's hilarious for me to read. "Oh no! The menu screen! The thing that I'll only need to see for a few seconds before starting the movie, it doesnt look exceptional as I had hoped for! I think I'll have to import the US version now instead because how we supposed to accept this travesty that is called a "menu screen"!"
What a bunch of snobs.
I don't think anyone is avoiding this release just because of the menus, but they are one of several legitimate complaints people have with this release. There is: Manga's decision to take out the extras from the individual blu-ray so that they could release a more expensive 'Collector's Edition', the extras now being DVD-only because of that, and most significantly the Japanese audio not being included in 5.1. I would not call inexplicably leaving out the original 5.1 mix when one is clearly available "petty" at all, and that was the deal breaker for me. I am not importing out of snobbishness, but because the US version is a significantly superior product.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:25 pm

Why should we be OK or even accepting that the Japanese audio is only DD 2.0? What if the English dub was downgraded to DD 2.0 would you be fine with it too? I don't know, maybe you would.

It's a very disappointing move from Manga UK to pull considering 5.1 exists for the 85min edition (the extended is only available in DD 2.0 however).
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Post by Bullza » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:49 pm

VegettoEX wrote:The complaints seem far more focused on the fact that a 5.1 surround track is not included for the JP theatrical cut, despite being right there on the FUNimation release
Incorrect.

Number of people complaining about the menu = 7

Number of people complaining about the sound = 3

7 > 3 = More complaints focused on the menu.

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Post by VegettoEX » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:59 pm

You're taking things way out of context. The audio confirmation not only had one less day to garner responses so far, but there's more being said about the audio (non)inclusion than the the one-off, short, pass-by comments about the menus.

If you're going to nitpick about nitpicks, you don't really have anything worth contributing to the discussion. You're so deadset on being disruptive and rude to people that I'm not entirely sure why you're even here, other than to make a scene and enjoy making us work by responding to you about it.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:01 pm

Talk about petty, you're picking on something unimportant as a menu while completely forgetting a very aspect that makes the home experience a whole lot better for the fans that is the audio tracks, which in this case the UK has a shitty DD 2.0 (for the Japanese audio) for some reason while the other releases out there provide the 5.1 without messing that bit up.

I wonder what excuse Manga UK has for ditching the 5.1 Japanese audio track.
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Post by LostTimeLord » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:06 pm

Bullza wrote:"Oh no! The menu screen! The thing that I'll only need to see for a few seconds before starting the movie, it doesnt look exceptional as I had hoped for! I think I'll have to import the US version now instead because how we supposed to accept this travesty that is called a "menu screen"!"
Bullza wrote:7 > 3 = More complaints focused on the menu.
But the people who are cancelling their pre-orders seem to be doing so based largely on the Japanese audio, not the menus. You're suggesting that people have been boycotting this release based solely on the menus and not the other significant complaints they have with this release.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:10 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:Talk about petty, you're picking on something unimportant as a menu while completely forgetting a very aspect that makes the home experience a whole lot better for the fans that is the audio tracks, which in this case the UK has a shitty DD 2.0 (for the Japanese audio) for some reason while the other releases out there provide the 5.1 without messing that bit up.

I wonder what excuse Manga UK has for ditching the 5.1 Japanese audio track.
Well, knowing Manga they won't even say a thing, so I don't think you have to worry about what excuse they'll come up with.
You could always wait and import from Australia since they have the same region code, but for me I think this will be last Manga purchase for a while.

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Post by NitroEX » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:14 pm

I'm no expert but I'm going to guess that they purposely nerfed this release and used poorer quality Japanese audio to discourage Japanese buyers from reverse importing. That seems to be a big issue UK anime companies have to deal with which sucks for anime fans living in UK tbh.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:17 pm

LostTimeLord wrote:But the people who are cancelling their pre-orders seem to be doing so based largely on the Japanese audio, not the menus. You're suggesting that people have been boycotting this release based solely on the menus and not the other significant complaints they have with this release.
If in the UK it was Anime Limited who had the rights to release Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods I'd be very certain they would come out and apologise while stating they'd have a new batch featuring the missing 5.1 Japanese audio (requesting customers to send their defect copies to X address) but this is Manga UK, the same company who released Dragon Ball: Season 3 with the same defects as the R4 version. :thumbdown:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:You could always wait and import from Australia since they have the same region code, but for me I think this will be last Manga purchase for a while.
The Madman release may very well be an exact copy of this because knowing Manga UK it isn't part of them to actually make their own menus but instead use what's already done.

Madman's Battle of Gods states that it'll feature two discs so for all we know it's 1xBD and 1xDVD containing the same content.
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Post by Bullza » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:50 pm

VegettoEX wrote:You're taking things way out of context. The audio confirmation not only had one less day to garner responses so far
My count was as of just the last page with dbbox's post which mentioned both the audio and the menu in the same post and more people mentioned the look of the menu.
there's more being said about the audio (non)inclusion than the the one-off, short, pass-by comments about the menus.
So? Is there supposed to be some criteria or something? Less people mentioned it more times, that's all.
If you're going to nitpick about nitpicks, you don't really have anything worth contributing to the discussion.
And now you're nitpicking about my nitpicking and turning my couple of supposed "sarcastic comments" into a lenghtier unnecessary discussion.
You're so deadset on being disruptive and rude to people that I'm not entirely sure why you're even here
Distruptive and rude? The movie is right around the corner as opposed to having to wait another six months and instead of people being happy about this unlike UK fans of Naruto and One Piece they're instead complaining about the look of the menu. There's nothing rude about saying that's petty, it is.
enjoy making us work by responding to you about it.
I didn't make you do anything. Infact I'm fed up of how you always show up to complain or put a stop to any discussion I seem to have. The other day I was talking to someone about Vegeta and his role in the previous and upcoming movie but because this expanded into the series you soon popped up to say we couldn't when it's not like there was anything else to discuss and it's just full of repetitive comments. I was talking to someone about a game and even though we were fully on topic that discussion had to stop because we were using too many quotes.

I can't nitpick, have a discussion that trails a bit, have a discussion that doesnt trail a bit or offer assistance without you showing up and telling me I can't do that.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:54 pm

NitroEX wrote:I'm no expert but I'm going to guess that they purposely nerfed this release and used poorer quality Japanese audio to discourage Japanese buyers from reverse importing. That seems to be a big issue UK anime companies have to deal with which sucks for anime fans living in UK tbh.
But the Blu-ray region code is completely different though, DVD is same though I think but if that is the case then they should only nerf the DVD release then.
dbboxkaifan wrote: The Madman release may very well be an exact copy of this because knowing Manga UK it isn't part of them to actually make their own menus but instead use what's already done.

Madman's Battle of Gods states that it'll feature two discs so for all we know it's 1xBD and 1xDVD containing the same content.
Oh dear that does not look promising. Although, it could be that Madman separated the Theatrical and Directors cut.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:45 pm

If Manga UK had made a Limited Edition Steelbook Blu-ray like they did for Ghost in the Shell, Akira, Ninja Scroll and the upcoming Bayonetta then it would have at least had some value for the Steelbook case but since they skipped it, there's really nothing great about it (except the four cards, I guess).

I cancelled my Battle of Gods CE pre-order and ordered the GitS Steelbook instead, for what I was gonna pay then I'd rather have a high quality product.
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Post by BlackCatScott » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:24 pm

Just got mine in the post early!

Sticking it in now :)

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Post by Vegard Aune » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:51 pm

Seeing how I already own the Japanese BluRay, and so my interest in this release stems mainly from the extended cut which was never available in 5.1 anyway, the complete and utter lack of a Japanese 5.1 track for the theatrical cut does not bother me in the least.

It is rather lame of them to exclude that feature when FUNi got it right though...

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Post by omegalucas » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:33 pm

Vegard Aune wrote:Seeing how I already own the Japanese BluRay, and so my interest in this release stems mainly from the extended cut which was never available in 5.1 anyway, the complete and utter lack of a Japanese 5.1 track for the theatrical cut does not bother me in the least.

It is rather lame of them to exclude that feature when FUNi got it right though...
I happen to think the same, though the subtitles color (which is stated to be gray in the review I posted the link of here earlier) bother me slightly, I'd prefer white.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:49 pm

BlackCatScott wrote:Just got mine in the post early!

Sticking it in now :)
Could you take some photos of it with the cards? I've already seen Amazon's picture of it but taken by a customer shows what's it's really like in reality.
omegalucas wrote:I happen to think the same, though the subtitles colour (which is stated to be grey in the review I posted the link of here earlier) bother me slightly, I'd prefer white.
Yellow subtitles was what I thought they'd include since that's kinda the norm and look better than grey or white (although if done properly then white coloured subtitles are just as good).

I asked Manga UK about why they only included Japanese DD 2.0 and this is what they replied back with:
Hi, sorry you feel that way. I've enquired with Manga HQ about this and we can only work with the assets provided to us. ^JG
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