When did Vegeta get SS2? [guidebook question]

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When did Vegeta get SS2? [guidebook question]

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:44 pm

I've often seen it stated that one of the Daizenshuus said Vegeta already had SS2 before being possessed by Babidi. Not that I doubt that, but does anyone actually have a quote and book number?
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: When did Vegeta get SS2? [guidebook question]

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:44 pm

Multiple books if I remember right. The only one I'm for certain on is Daizenshu 7's Technique Dictionary:
Super Saiyan 2
This form has power that surpasses Super Saiyan in all ways. Gohan naturally transformed into this form through his anger at Cell's brutal actions, while Goku and Vegeta learned it through harsh training.
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Re: When did Vegeta get SS2? [guidebook question]

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:11 am

That's what I was looking for. Thanks.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: When did Vegeta get SS2? [guidebook question]

Post by kaya67 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:20 am

Either getting the 3 FUNimations Z Movie sets (same thing, split up) or waiting for them to probably be announced for the UK after GT Season 2 comes out (I'm guessing)
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Re: When did Vegeta get SS2? [guidebook question]

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:29 am

kaya67 wrote:Either getting the 3 FUNimations Z Movie sets (same thing, split up) or waiting for them to probably be announced for the UK after GT Season 2 comes out (I'm guessing)
Methinks you posted in the wrong thread, friend.

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Re: When did Vegeta get SS2? [guidebook question]

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:56 pm

Super Exciting Guide: Story Guide says that as well.
Herms wrote:Some things of interest is that it describes Gohan’s training as being based mostly on strengthening and learning to control his ki, while Vegeta’s training is described as training his muscles to the limit. And as a result of Vegeta’s training, it says he awakened to Super Saiyan 2, so that’s another data point in that debate (Daizenshuu 7 also says Vegeta acquired Super Saiyan 2 through training).
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