Gogeta Appreciation Thread

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Yes it's another one of these "Appreciation Threads".
what I want to know is what do you think of this fused saiyan.

[MCDaveG]

Well, hands down. I don't think that Gogeta is underlooked.
He is a star of all the video games he is in and defines the term fusion usually in official works I saw.
What actually hurts him is that he's (not in character) a carbon copy of Gotenks and Toriyama himself later thought up an original fusion involving pair of earrings because of that.
But yeah, he was definitely badass in that movie. Didn't like him in GT much even as a kid. I was actually pissed off, that Goten and Trunks didn't do anything and when they offered Goku a fusion in Baby arc,
they've got direct f**k off from him, only to have Goku and Vegeta actually create adult Gotenks instead in the last arc.
And don't forget about Uub wanting to fuse, only to be rejected by Gohan for racist reasons.

[sintzu]

He needs to be used in one of Toriyama's upcoming movies.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Well, hands down. I don't think that Gogeta is underlooked.
He is a star of all the video games he is in and defines the term fusion usually in official works I saw.
What actually hurts him is that he's (not in character) a carbon copy of Gotenks and Toriyama himself later thought up an original fusion involving pair of earrings because of that.
But yeah, he was definitely badass in that movie. Didn't like him in GT much even as a kid. I was actually pissed off, that Goten and Trunks didn't do anything and when they offered Goku a fusion in Baby arc,
they've got direct f**k off from him, only to have Goku and Vegeta actually create adult Gotenks instead in the last arc.
And don't forget about Uub wanting to fuse, only to be rejected by Gohan for racist reasons.

You make some good point's.

He needs to be used in one of Toriyama's upcoming movies.

Agreed

[Ashelia]

I don't have an in depth reason like other probably will but I like him more than than other two fusions because of his SS4 design. He's the ultimate form of a true Super Saiyan God (aka SS4) in my head canon. I also just never liked the idea of Vegetto, Goku and Vegeta being stuck together forever just no >__<

[UpFromTheSkies]

I always love how he was depicted as a serious fighter, well that was until they made him act like a clown in GT...

I think if Toriyama would have written Gogeta he would have portrayed him the way he is in GT, because in the manga, fused characters are so extremely powerful that it makes them cocky and causes them to take their opponents lightly.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

I think if Toriyama would have written Gogeta, he would have portrayed him the way he is in GT, because in the manga fused characters are so extremely powerful that it makes them cocky, and causes them to take their opponents lightly.

Most likely.

I don't have an in depth reason like other probably will but I like him more than than other two fusions because of his SS4 design. He's the ultimate form of a true Super Saiyan God (aka SS4) in my head canon. I also just never liked the idea of Vegetto, Goku and Vegeta being stuck together forever just no >__<

Great minds think alike my friend.

[Hellspawn28]

Pretty cool in Fusion Reborn, I wish he had more screen time. He sucked in GT since the show hype him up and he end up being a poor man's version of Vegito.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Pretty cool in Fusion Reborn, I wish he had more screen time. He sucked in GT since the show hype him up and he end up being a poor man's version of Vegito.

Yep, pretty much.
SSJ4 Gogeta is way better in the video games than in GT.

[hleV]

He's the only fused character to truly defeat a villain, something these two never accomplished:

How does that even count? Sure, M12 Gogeta finished Janenba quickly, but GT Gogeta was an idiot. Same goes to Gotenks.

Vegetto, though? He has proven to be able to easily destroy Boo. By an attack that apparently takes so little effort for him that it's not even a visible ki attack.
So, did Vegetto defeat Boo? No. Was he trying to defeat Boo? No.

Also Gogeta is ruined by the existance of Veku.

[InfernalVegito]

To me Gogeta and Vegetto are essentially the same. Both are cool because they're the exotic characters that were only needed once and twice due to their almost infinite power. Also, I don't think that he wasn't true to his character in GT, or what this entails. He just fooled around because he could, he's a saiyajin after all and they can be cocky. Others would say he did that to tease Yi Xing Long to throw his Karma Ball at him and purify the Earth, but that's a little too far-fetched for my taste. Moreover, he didn't expect the fusion to end so early. Probably forgot what happened to Gotenks.

Anyway, his design is awesome, I love his red hair and blue eyes while SSJ4. And that dual-voice in general just oozes epicness!

[SSJ God Gogeta]

He's the only fused character to truly defeat a villain, something these two never accomplished:

How does that even count? Sure, M12 Gogeta finished Janenba quickly, but GT Gogeta was an idiot. Same goes to Gotenks.

Vegetto, though? He has proven to be able to easily destroy Boo. By an attack that apparently takes so little effort for him that it's not even a visible ki attack.
So, did Vegetto defeat Boo? No. Was he trying to defeat Boo? No.

Also Gogeta is ruined by the existance of Veku.

You basically summed it up,Vegito never defeated Buu.
I never said he couldn't, it's just due to having the fusion broken by being in Buu's body, he couldn't finish him off.
As for Gotenks, well there's no helping him.
But it still stands that Gogeta is the only fusion to defeat/kill a villain.

Also, I don't really mind Veku. He's okay for what he is (comedy relief).

To me Gogeta and Vegetto are essentially the same. Both are cool because they're the exotic characters that were only needed once and twice due to their almost infinite power. Also, I don't think that he wasn't true to his character in GT, or what this entails. He just fooled around because he could, he's a saiyajin after all and they can be cocky. Others would say he did that to tease Yi Xing Long to throw his Karma Ball at him and purify the Earth, but that's a little too far-fetched for my taste. Moreover, he didn't expect the fusion to end so early. Probably forgot what happened to Gotenks.

Anyway, his design is awesome, I love his red hair and blue eyes while SSJ4. And that dual-voice in general just oozes epicness!

You make some good points.
But I still think they could have done a bit better with his character in GT. They seem to do it fine in the video games in my opinion.

[hleV]

But it still stands that Gogeta is the only fusion to defeat/kill a villain.

I don't understand how does that matter or what does it prove. Please explain.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

But it still stands that Gogeta is the only fusion to defeat/kill a villain.

I don't understand how does that matter or what does it prove. Please explain.

He's the only fusion in the series to do it.
That's it, I'm not trying to prove anything I'm just stating the facts.
It might not matter to you but it does for me.
To have a fusion actually getting something done for once.

[hleV]

Implying Vegetto had absolutely no contribution to the victory against Boo?

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Implying Vegetto had absolutely no contribution to the victory against Boo?

To be honest, not really... All he did was humiliate an upset Buu and let himself get absorbed, that's the short version of it.
They really didn't need Vegito at all for that job, Gogeta would have been better for the task in hindsight.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

He is cool in M12, and he looks cool in GT as a Super Saiyan 4... that's it.

Implying Vegetto had absolutely no contribution to the victory against Boo?

To be honest, not really... All he did was humiliate an upset Buu and let himself get absorbed, that's the short version of it.
They really didn't need Vegito at all for that job, Gogeta would have been better for the task in hindsight.

Gogeta would get killed against Boo.

[Kamiccolo9]

Implying Vegetto had absolutely no contribution to the victory against Boo?

To be honest, not really... All he did was humiliate an upset Buu and let himself get absorbed, that's the short version of it.
They really didn't need Vegito at all for that job, Gogeta would have been better for the task in hindsight.

The whole point was that he wanted to get absorbed by Buu. So he could pull everyone out from inside him. Remember?

[Darkprince410]

To be fair, Vegetto's whole intention WAS to get absorbed by Buu so that he could free Gohan and the others. He wanted to back Buu into a corner so that he'd have no alternative but to try and absorb him. He was more than strong enough if he had wanted to, but he didn't, because he had other objectives in mind.

As for Gogeta fighting Buu, it's not likely. Given what is established as far as Gotenks is concerned, Gogeta would likely not be much stronger than they are in the same form, and as a result would probably not be able to fare very well against Gotenks Buu, let alone Gohan Buu, as a Super Saiya-jin 3.

Edit: Beaten by Kamiccolo

[SSJ God Gogeta]

He is cool in M12, and he looks cool in GT as a Super Saiyan 4... that's it.

Implying Vegetto had absolutely no contribution to the victory against Boo?

To be honest, not really... All he did was humiliate an upset Buu and let himself get absorbed, that's the short version of it.
They really didn't need Vegito at all for that job, Gogeta would have been better for the task in hindsight.

Gogeta would get killed against Boo.

Really...

The whole point was that he wanted to get absorbed by Buu. So he could pull everyone out from inside him. Remember?

Yeah, and you think Gogeta couldn't pull that off?
They didn't know that the fusion would separate once they got in Buu's body. With Gogeta, it would be the same but they would know that the fusion would run out over time.
So what I'm saying is, they didn't need a permanent fusion to get the job done.