The story is from an issue of Weekly Famitsu published in 2006. I haven't checked it out myself, but several websites refer to it as the source.JamesOwnz wrote:For the first thing you said that just sounds like baseless rumors we've heard so many timeskei17 wrote:You can say the franchise somewhat did back then, though. As you may know, Toriyama had a hard time ending the serialization because many companies involved with the franchise were afraid of a decline in their performance and stock price by that. In fact, it is said that exclusives in such companies had a number of meetings to decide to let Toriyama end it. I doubt this directly affected something like the Nikkei Stock Average, but it's easy to imagine that it did damage some major companies in some way.
Dr. Slump was also so big that it created an industry term among the stationery market: Arale-chan shock. In the early '80s, there was a huge boom of stationery products featuring Dr. Slump, and it is said that they even accounted for about half of total sales of some stationers. When the craze for the series itself was ending, such products still continued to sell very well because it was parents who were buying them. Parents didn't know that their children were starting to lose interest in Dr. Slump. Stationers were also unaware of what children were actually into and they ordered tons of Dr. Slump merchandise for the new year shopping season in 1983... As a result, they had to carry an extreme amount of dead stock.
Is there a new DB series to boost Japan's economy?
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It's not perfect by any means but it's no where near "Horrible trash".JulieYBM wrote:Horrible trash like Dragon Ball Kai.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
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If anything we'll get a Kai version of the original DB.Hellspawn28 wrote:I doubt we will get one, but I will be up for a new show as long if it's good.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
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Well, its a butchered edition of DBZ with new audio and some new effects labeled as a remake when in fact its not. All in the name of an easy buck, of course.sintzu wrote:It's not perfect by any means but it's no where near "Horrible trash".JulieYBM wrote:Horrible trash like Dragon Ball Kai.
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I rather see a new show with a new original cast of characters set in the Dragon Ball universe. The series can be like Star Trek: The Next Generation was where it took place in the same universe but were not immediate continuations of previous events of the series.
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Wait, when did that happen?rereboy wrote:Well, its a butchered edition of DBZ with new audio and some new effects labeled as a remake when in fact its not. All in the name of an easy buck, of course.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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they are making new dbz movies. that will boost the economy more because they can sell more merchandise with less animation.
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I hope there is more movie-exclusive merchandise this time around; I felt BOG was lacking in movie-exclusive merch. Felt like too much of what was released was re-releases of Z stuff.
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It was always implicitly branded as such. It was never sold and distributed as a version of Dragon Ball Z, which it pretty much is, but as a new anime. Even its name, Dragon Ball Kai, misleads us into thinking its a new adaptation, a remake of Dragon Ball. In fact, when it was being announced, everybody was pretty excited because they actually thought it was a remake. Only when we got more info and actually got to see portions of it did everybody realized what it actually was.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Wait, when did that happen?rereboy wrote:Well, its a butchered edition of DBZ with new audio and some new effects labeled as a remake when in fact its not. All in the name of an easy buck, of course.
In this, the US edition actually ended up being more honest because it was branded as Dragon Ball Z Kai, making it significantly less misleading.
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I choose new movies over a new series.
More budget, more dedication, better quality.
But BOG opened a lot of doors in the end, so a new series could cover the different Gods and universes better I guess.
Toriyama is inspired. So whatever they do, its okay with me.
I still was impressed by the last fight scene in that crossover with OP and Toriko.
More budget, more dedication, better quality.
But BOG opened a lot of doors in the end, so a new series could cover the different Gods and universes better I guess.
Toriyama is inspired. So whatever they do, its okay with me.
I still was impressed by the last fight scene in that crossover with OP and Toriko.
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A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
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Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
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The new movies reminds me how old the old Star Trek movies with the original cast were. They came out over a decade after the series ended and they did a new one once every two-three years. Maybe our new movie pattern can be like this:
2013: BOG
2015: DBZ Movie 15
2017: DBZ Movie 16
2019: DBZ Movie 17
2021: DBZ Movie 18
2013: BOG
2015: DBZ Movie 15
2017: DBZ Movie 16
2019: DBZ Movie 17
2021: DBZ Movie 18
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Somehow, all the translations Julian would have to do is the first thing that popped into my mind.Hellspawn28 wrote:The new movies reminds me how old the old Star Trek movies with the original cast were. They came out over a decade after the series ended and they did a new one once every two-three years. Maybe our new movie pattern can be like this:
2013: BOG
2015: DBZ Movie 15
2017: DBZ Movie 16
2019: DBZ Movie 17
2021: DBZ Movie 18
Part of me thinks the movies will end with a third one (so the 2017 in your chart) but that might be me being used to Hollywood patterns.
The mind boggles if Toei'd be in for the long haul. I wouldn't complain. I'd have no way of knowing where I'll be though (but who does).
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I can't imagine Kami to Kami cost a lot to make. Given it's success I don't foresee new films being difficult to produce as a result.
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But where was it branded as a remake? I only recall it getting branded as a "refreshed" version of DBZ.rereboy wrote:It was always implicitly branded as such. It was never sold and distributed as a version of Dragon Ball Z, which it pretty much is, but as a new anime. Even its name, Dragon Ball Kai, misleads us into thinking its a new adaptation, a remake of Dragon Ball. In fact, when it was being announced, everybody was pretty excited because they actually thought it was a remake. Only when we got more info and actually got to see portions of it did everybody realized what it actually was.
In this, the US edition actually ended up being more honest because it was branded as Dragon Ball Z Kai, making it significantly less misleading.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I said that it was implicitly branded as such. Their entire marketing machine made sure that the first impression to reach people was that it was a new thing, a new anime. They pretty much said, "hey, we have this NEW anime thing, Dragon Ball Kai, and that will air that will cover Dragon Ball (Z)!" and then, after that first initial first impression, when the fans actually bother to find out more details, only then does it become clear in the fine print that might be just an edited version of DBZ. Even the term "refreshed" that they use in the details when it was announced is ambiguous and could imply a remake or not. In short, any careless fan who didn't check up on the details or interpreted it the wrong way would have been mislead into actually thinking it was a new anime or an actual remake.DBZGTKOSDH wrote: But where was it branded as a remake? I only recall it getting branded as a "refreshed" version of DBZ.
Make no mistake, that is intentional, a marketing technique to give off a certain superficial impression to create more buzz while still putting the details in the fine print so its not an actual lie or omission. They wanted it to seem something that its not and that shows in their marketing and branding, which is why I stated that its was implicitly branded as such. It was not branded just as an a remake, though, in the fine print, with the correct interpretation, we also find the correct branding, but since they also wanted to look like something else, its also implicitly branded as a remake or something like that.
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From what I see, it was first announced as a re-edited version of DBZ. Doesn't imply anything about it being a remake.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Well, you will notice that I did say that they do offer the correct details in the fine print once the fans bother to look for them, but they made the superficial impression as misleading as they could on purpose. Maybe you just don't agree with the way I phrased it, but I'm sure you will understand what I mean if you read carefully what I said.
Actually, my first post in response to you was wrong when I said that they never branded it as a re-edited version of DBZ. It would be more correct to say that their marketing and branding was always somewhat misleading and easily made Kai look like it was something it was not, even though they did offer the correct details in the fine print.
Actually, my first post in response to you was wrong when I said that they never branded it as a re-edited version of DBZ. It would be more correct to say that their marketing and branding was always somewhat misleading and easily made Kai look like it was something it was not, even though they did offer the correct details in the fine print.
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It's only misleading if you only read its title. It is written in the very first announcement that this is neither a remake, nor a new story, and it is even accompanied with screen-shots that obviously originate from DBZ. Even the very first trailer of the series shows that this is a re-cut, digitally remastered DBZ, and not a new series. For someone to think that Kai is a completely new thing, it is his fault for not bothering looking the back of the DVD box, not the company's for misleading him.rereboy wrote:Well, you will notice that I did say that they do offer the correct details in the fine print once the fans bother to look for them, but they made the superficial impression as misleading as they could on purpose. Maybe you just don't agree with the way I phrased it, but I'm sure you will understand what I mean if you read carefully what I said.
Actually, my first post in response to you was wrong when I said that they never branded it as a re-edited version of DBZ. It would be more correct to say that their marketing and branding was always somewhat misleading and easily made Kai look like it was something it was not, even though they did offer the correct details in the fine print.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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AKA, if fans actually take the time to read the fine print behind the marketing they will notice that its just edited DBZ. Otherwise there's a good chance they will be mislead into thinking its more.
And no, there's not just the title. There were a very significant amount of new images and even animation produced for the marketing of Kai, and even for the intro/ending of Kai, in a different style of DBZ, making it misleading, not to mention that the first impression that Kai's marketing transmit as essentially the impression of something actually new.
Even I was mislead at first since the marketing was ambiguous. Was it an actual remake or something hybrid? Only when I properly researched it and actually saw the first episode, did I reach the conclusion regarding what it actually was.
And no, there's not just the title. There were a very significant amount of new images and even animation produced for the marketing of Kai, and even for the intro/ending of Kai, in a different style of DBZ, making it misleading, not to mention that the first impression that Kai's marketing transmit as essentially the impression of something actually new.
Even I was mislead at first since the marketing was ambiguous. Was it an actual remake or something hybrid? Only when I properly researched it and actually saw the first episode, did I reach the conclusion regarding what it actually was.
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It is clearly said in the very first announcement:rereboy wrote:AKA, if fans actually take the time to read the fine print behind the marketing they will notice that its just edited DBZ. Otherwise there's a good chance they will be mislead into thinking its more.
And no, there's not just the title. There were a very significant amount of new images and even animation produced for the marketing of Kai, and even for the intro/ending of Kai, in a different style of DBZ, making it misleading, not to mention that the first impression that Kai's marketing transmit as essentially the impression of something actually new.
Even I was mislead at first since the marketing was ambiguous. Was it an actual remake or something hybrid? Only when I properly researched it and actually saw the first episode, did I reach the conclusion regarding what it actually was.
The announcement says everything. If the fans don't bother to read it, or if a website on the Internet hasn't made a good report, then it's not the company's fault if the fans are misled. It was never passed as a remake or as a new thing. It's like saying that GT could be thought as a prequel to DBZ because Goku is a kid.20th anniversary of Dragon Ball Z!
The legend of Z will be back with the newest digital technology!!
Starts at 9:00AM in April 5th 2009, on Fuji TV!!
1. More exciting by re-editing!!: The footage will be totally re-edited and HD-remastered!!
2. New opening and ending!!: Both footage and songs will be renewed! The sound effects in the show will also be renewed!!
2. Superb seiyus will gather for the show!!: The show will be re-dubbed by the original casts!!
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.