Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:58 pm

Goku's beatdown was far more humiliating than anything Toei put him through. He's the only main villain who doesn't even get to put up a decently close fight in his final battle (unless you count Pilaf and Red). The others very nearly won, from Daimao to Buu. Freeza just gets curb stomped, and then brought back only to be curb stomped again.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:00 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:Reassuring for dub fans:

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Post by Zenkashuu » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:07 pm

After the borefest that Battle of Gods was, I keep my expectations low.

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Post by ImmaDeker » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:08 pm

I like that this Freeza concern was brought up as if it was a concern at all and not just completely frivolous worry-warting because fandoms always immediately assume the worst as a baseline response to literally anything.

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Post by sintzu » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:08 pm

Zenkashuu wrote:After the borefest that Battle of Gods was.
Bore fest ? Sure it could have used more action but what we got was anything but boring.
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Post by Jackal puFF » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:09 pm

What the heck is happening??

I can't believe Freeza is going to be the big bad of this movie... How is he even a threat at this point you know? Is there some kind of super (freeza's race) god now? He is seen glowing in the poster.. Maybe new forms too?
Oh maybe it's a different stronger freeza from another dimension..

I really wanted Whis as the villain awww. OH well.

I really like that Krillin has his old shaved head again! That definitely means he's fighting in this one!

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Post by Bullza » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:10 pm

Does anyone else miss the ridiculously long over the top names the old movies had?


No they were ridiculously bad.

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:11 pm

Jackal puFF wrote:How is he even a threat at this point you know? Is there some kind of super (freeza's race) god now?
The plot will require it, therefore he shall be strong enough to be a threat.
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Post by UltimateHammerBro » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:16 pm

Even though it seems that we've settled for "Revival/Resurrection of F" didn't someone say that it was a bit more along the lines of "F of Fukkatsu" or "F for Fukkatsu", with Fukkatsu meaning revival?
When I saw it, it reminded me of "V for Vendetta".
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Post by Ajay » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:20 pm

UltimateHammerBro wrote:To me, it doesn't look like a kanji, but a symbol which may or may not mean anything.
Perhaps Goku trains under Beerus and Whis and that's their symbol? *Shrug*

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Post by Bullza » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:20 pm

I just noticed the movie is going to be in 3D also. That should help it see a bit of a boost at the box office due to the extra price of the 3D tickets. Battle of Gods wasn't in 3D right?

Should we start getting a steady release of information from now on then?

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:21 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:Reassuring for dub fans:

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I imagine that's pretty much confirmed then unless FUNi turn around and straight up force Sabat to cast someone else.
If Ayers is coming back, then I am excited as hell to hear this news. Ryusei Nakao is one of my favorite voice actors of the Japanese cast, and Chris Ayers is one of my favorite members of the English cast. In both cases, their performances were freakin' beautiful to listen to. To hear that they'll both be getting another shot at playing my favorite villain makes me very, very happy! Consider me excited!
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Post by Zenkashuu » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:22 pm

sintzu wrote:
Zenkashuu wrote:After the borefest that Battle of Gods was.
Bore fest ? Sure it could have used more action but what we got was anything but boring.
Well it was for me, from the bad "funny" parts to awful 3D effects.

On topic, can Dragonballs revive someone who died long time ago? Didn't Akira Toriyama say something about it and Bardock? I am not sure where I read it.

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Post by radrappy » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:22 pm

The hate this premise is getting really confuses me. I'm ecstatic that they're bringing a primary villain from the manga back into the fray. It beats a new generic musclebound villain like Broly or Bojack any damn day of the week.

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Post by Marco Polo » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:23 pm

How do you even revive a villain in the manga continuity? I mean it's not like the anime where the villains are just chilling with their bodies in Hell.

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Post by Ryuman » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:23 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Goku's beatdown was far more humiliating than anything Toei put him through. He's the only main villain who doesn't even get to put up a decently close fight in his final battle (unless you count Pilaf and Red). The others very nearly won, from Daimao to Buu. Freeza just gets curb stomped, and then brought back only to be curb stomped again.
Yes, the point was Goku intentionally humiliated Freeza so that he'd never like do bad again, Toriyama himself did not have some weird vendetta that you seem to imply. In the end though, it bit Goku in the ass because he nearly died along with him. When Freeza came back, I suppose that was less dignifying, but there he more or less is used as a measuring stick and an interesting reveal for Trunks. To this day Freeza's remark about Trunks' eyes is one of my favourite moments in the series.
Toei Freeza's appearances were just straight up goofy.

To address concerns about whether or not Freeza should have been reincarnated, maybe they just haven't got around to him yet? I always thought Buu was reincarnated straight away as a special case. Can someone tell me if I made that up or something? I don't think any rules a have been broken here.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:24 pm

Marco Polo wrote:How do you even revive a villain in the manga continuity? I mean it's not like the anime where the villains are just chilling with their bodies in Hell.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:27 pm

Marco Polo wrote:How do you even revive a villain in the manga continuity? I mean it's not like the anime where the villains are just chilling with their bodies in Hell.
Well, it does appear as though Beerus and Whis are coming back. My guess is, gods can pull some strings.
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:28 pm

Ryuman wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Goku's beatdown was far more humiliating than anything Toei put him through. He's the only main villain who doesn't even get to put up a decently close fight in his final battle (unless you count Pilaf and Red). The others very nearly won, from Daimao to Buu. Freeza just gets curb stomped, and then brought back only to be curb stomped again.
Yes, the point was Goku intentionally humiliated Freeza so that he'd never like do bad again, Toriyama himself did not have some weird vendetta that you seem to imply. In the end though, it bit Goku in the ass because he nearly died along with him. When Freeza came back, I suppose that was less dignifying, but there he more or less is used as a measuring stick and an interesting reveal for Trunks. To this day Freeza's remark about Trunks' eyes is one of my favourite moments in the series.
Toei Freeza's appearances were just straight up goofy.
No, I'm pretty sure Toriyama had at least some interest in making Freeza look shitty. Let's be real here. If that wasn't the case, he wouldn't have done all that, from having Goku curb stomp him, to having Trunks mock and one-shot him, to having Kaioshin reveal that he was always full of shit when he bragged about being the strongest in the universe, because even a little bitch like him could one-shot a pathetic weakling like Freezy Pop. Plus, wasn't the 2008 special his idea?
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:29 pm

Marco Polo wrote:How do you even revive a villain in the manga continuity? I mean it's not like the anime where the villains are just chilling with their bodies in Hell.
My theory is that it's Freeza from another dimension/timeline/universe.

Just putting that out there! :P

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