Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Chuquita » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:29 pm

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Chuquita wrote:A wish that rewrites history then? Maybe it affects everyone but Gokû and Vegeta because they may be on Beerus' planet and that protects them, or Whis sees it coming and uses his powers to shield his planet from the wish?
Ah, so Freeza gets to keep his empire and that's why Krillin is still active(possibly rebelling against Freeza's empire?) and Gohan is different(no ultimate eyes).
That would be an interesting spin, but it wouldn't sit well with me, that Shenlong could fuck so much with reality.
It doesn't sit that well with me either (because Shenlong doesn't seem like he could possibly be that powerful) but it's the most solid conclusion I have for now. Kuririn stopped growing his hair because he was finished with fighting; why would he choose to suddenly shave it off again. Gohan looks too different from where he was left off in BOG. Also Trunks and Goten are missing from the cover; they're almost-always there with everyone on ads like this. Maybe they don't exist in this new Freezaverse? Maybe Bulma and Vegeta aren't even together in the Freezaverse! Vegeta and Gokû will return to Earth and Bulma will never have had a relationship with Vegeta. Vegeta's entire family-life on Earth will be gone. He'll be shocked and angry and it'll make his attack on Freeza even more motivated.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by sintzu » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:38 pm

Destroy everything Goku&Vegeta care about ? Yep sounds like the Frieza we know.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:40 pm

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dbgtFO wrote:That would be an interesting spin, but it wouldn't sit well with me, that Shenlong could fuck so much with reality.
It doesn't sit that well with me either (because Shenlong doesn't seem like he could possibly be that powerful) but it's the most solid conclusion I have for now.
Really? I actually think that's the best, most logical idea for this, and it's nice to think of Shenlong being used for something that's not "bring dude back to life." It would also explain why everyone looks so different. I'm hoping it's an alternate reality thing where Freeza wasn't defeated. Because, honestly, it's the only thing I can think of that doesn't make me dislike this entire premise. Bringing back Freeza? Repetitive. Using Shenlong to alter reality so Freeza was never defeated? I like that. Plus, based on Toriyama's recent added "tidbits" to the franchise, it gives him a safe sandbox to play in without making any more questionable changes.

Ever since DB Minus, I was afraid Freeza would be used again, especially since they put in that absolutely atrocious line about Super Saiyan God. But actually, Chuquita, your guess has given me something to look forward to. I hope your guess is right.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:42 pm

If we see the ritual take place for Freeza, we damn well better got Only A Chilling Elegy to play during the process.
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Post by Retan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:43 pm

Love that Idea chuquita!! :clap:

But would Toriyama really want to write something that thought provoking?

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:45 pm

If it's a wish that somehow prompts this alternate reality...I'm still not sure how I feel about that, but I could deal with it. I just don't want the other universes that we just learned about in Battle of Gods to turn out to be alternate ones.
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Post by Eire » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:45 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote: Really? I actually think that's the best, most logical idea for this, and it's nice to think of Shenlong being used for something that's not "bring dude back to life." It would also explain why everyone looks so different. I'm hoping it's an alternate reality thing where Freeza wasn't defeated.
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Post by dbgtFO » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:46 pm

Retan wrote:But would Toriyama really want to write something that thought provoking?
It does seem like what it'd take to really impress his former editor, that it was something deeper, than his usual stories.

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Post by Jackal puFF » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:47 pm

That would be definitely out of the box. It wouldn't be boring that's for sure. Could get confusing real fast.

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Post by Retan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:47 pm

Maybe Gohan is raised to believe his father was killed by Piccolo, and Kuririn is the one training him to defeat piccolo.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:52 pm

But his father was killed by Piccolo... :P

In all seriousness, though, I was thinking the wish would be a bit less far-reaching, but, yeah, that'd be cool if it was changed so far back that Goku had no idea he was a Saiyan at all.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:55 pm

So Freeza's got another transformation in the locker I hear.

Gotta be a God based transformation. I'm kinda eager to see what it is even though transformations are really overplayed in Dragon Ball.
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Post by Retan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:56 pm

Well I meant like there minds are changed to believe that, while Goku and Vegeta were on Beerus's planet, they think that's what happened to him. And Piccolo is still evil, since he doesn't remember his time with Gohan, and the others?

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:59 pm

Re: Freezaverse
Thank you so much!

Re: Universe F
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Re: Other Universes
I wouldn't consider this another universe in the way Beerus described; instead I'd think of it as the same Universe 7 only altered/messed around with.

Re: Gokû's experience also being wiped/replaced
I hadn't thought of Gokû at all. You really could make this "The Vegeta Movie" if Gokû ended up being affected by it.

Re: Piccolo
If it were to diverge some time during the Freeza arc, Piccolo and Gohan would still be friends. That was where I had the split. If it were earlier than that yeah.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Cetra » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:00 pm

Freezer probably gets more transformations and that completely unintended or even intended by somehow forcing it. He is a mutant of his own race and not the kind of "small difference" mutant that we all are. There is no reason for him to not mutate any further. I excpect Freezer to mutate easier than we do.
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Post by Ajay » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:01 pm

I wonder how Nakao's performance will be. He was obviously still very good in Kai but it didn't quite have the same menace his original delivery had. I chalk that up to retreading the same material over and over. I wonder if this new starring role will ignite something in him and bring about a performance to rival his original portrayal.

I don't watch One Piece but how was/has his performance been in that?
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:09 pm

@ Ajay - I haven't heard any of his work in One Piece, but I've heard that it's just as amazing as his initial Freeza was, so let's see here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J3ux4kui-Q

More humorous than Freeza will likely be, but...definitely sounds like he's still got it to me. :lol: I know he's pretty great as Kurotsuchi in Bleach too, but I can't seem to find any clips that aren't half-or-full-episodes.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by swimtrunks » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:12 pm

Someone mentioned that the Ginyu Force may involved. Weren't they said to be mutants too? What if they're the ones who help Freezer become Mutant-God?

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Post by mAcChaos » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:17 pm

What if you had a "Super Saiyan God" for every race?
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Post by sintzu » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:22 pm

The poster gives me the vibe that Vegeta and who's under him will take care of Frieza and his henchmen while Goku,Beerus and whis are off doing something else which will go with what Toriyama said about Vegeta's role in the movie.
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