Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Low Tone G]

Oh, damn I hadn't zoomed in on the picture, I thought it was Yamcha when it actually looks like Gohan's new look.

I'm still rooting for Goten to be on the poster. He looks a lot more like Goten than Gohan.
As I'm thinking about it, a wish which generates altered reality wouldn't make Frieza to seek for his revenge if wasn't killed by Trunks. I think chaging tha design of characters doesn't imply any serious changes in the history. I still think there 3 ways for Frieza to become a God:

1.He hasn't gotten reincarated for many years, and after he was revived when his soul was united again with his body he was given God Ki.
2.His minions found a way to grant him God powers, because they knew there's no other way to compete our heroes.
3.The minions will find a way to steal Goku's God power and give it to Frieza.

The latest official comments imply that the first it's the most likely to happen, I read the Frieza get reincarnated but not the way as is.

I think Vegeta will still become a God and fight Frieza together with Goku. But they ultimately won't win aare about to loose that Beerus and Whis will come, and Beerus gets defeate as well then Whis will find a way to stop Frieza. Maybe he intentionally open a gate to a universe where the God of Destruction is more powerfull then him and possibly send Frieza there. Or unfortunatelly for Frieza the powers from the clash will accidentally open a gate and will suck him in.

@Gohan to come back as hero....
I will be very angry if that would turn out to be the case. Come on, Toriyama himself said that we really wanted him to replace Goku, but he didn't manage to make him enough for such a role. I better wait for a hero Vegeta in this movie.

[Attitudefan]

Was the Freeza arc the last time the dogi sash made an appearance (outside of the epilogue to the series)?

*goes to check*.

On Gokû at least it was. Kuririn still has the sash during Cell.

I love the sash pre-androids too. It was a better design!

Hey, maybe this movie is the wish to end all wishes...

I also think Whis has something to do with this; can't he like, bend time and space?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Was the Freeza arc the last time the dogi sash made an appearance (outside of the epilogue to the series)?

*goes to check*.

On Gokû at least it was. Kuririn still has the sash during Cell.

I love the sash pre-androids too. It was a better design!

Depends on if you're only talking about the actual series itself. He had the belt in the JSAT special, which was obviously after Buu and before BOG & ROF.

[Chuquita]

I forgot to check anime-related stuff. Only checked the manga.
Haven't watched "Ossu!" in a while, forgot the sash was there. Happy to see it though. :3

[sintzu]

@Gohan to come back as hero....
I will be very angry if that would turn out to be the case.

We'll make contact with aliens before Gohan gets to be a hero again.

[Low Tone G]

@Gohan to come back as hero....
I will be very angry if that would turn out to be the case.

We'll make contact with aliens before Gohan gets to be a hero again.

Honestly, does Gohan deserve to beat a bad guy when does literally nothing to gain power? I liked better Goten, since the didn't get a power alone, but via fusion.

[sintzu]

Honestly, does Gohan deserve to beat a bad guy when does literally nothing to gain power ?

Other then that he's a very boring and plain character and thankfully Toriyama knew this before starting the Buu arc cause he was going to keep Goku dead and have Vegeta not fight anymore.

If he went through with that he would have probably killed the franchise.

[dbzfan7]

So I'm guessing being trained by Piccolo, then Piccolo and Goku, and then ROSAT training, then training with the Z sword didn't count for anything. Yep totally just sat there every time and doesn't train.

[soulnova]

I believe Shen Long still gives 3 wishes but on BoG they only wanted him to bring the SSjG... and failing that, he answered the question about how to make him. Once that was done and with no other wish on the queue, he left.

They actually did the same back in the Buu saga. They only used one of three wishes to revive all the good people killed that day and sent him on his way.

[Low Tone G]

So I'm guessing being trained by Piccolo, then Piccolo and Goku, and then ROSAT training, then training with the Z sword didn't count for anything. Yep totally just sat there every time and doesn't train.

Yeah he trains, when others tell him to do it. When there's no danger Gohan does nothing, yet he is(used to be) the most potent fighter in the series.

I believe Shen Long still gives 3 wishes but on BoG they only wanted him to bring the SSjG... and failing that, he answered the question about how to make him. Once that was done and with no other wish on the queue, he left.

They actually did the same back in the Buu saga. They only used one of three wishes to revive all the good people killed that day and sent him on his way.

I think that isn't that case. There was nothing to imply that Shenlon was ready to listen ta second and a third wish, after he told about the Saiyan God legend, he left immediately. The current movie's trailer Shenlon right said that he will grant one single wish.

[dbzfan7]

So I'm guessing being trained by Piccolo, then Piccolo and Goku, and then ROSAT training, then training with the Z sword didn't count for anything. Yep totally just sat there every time and doesn't train.

Yeah he trains, when others tell him to do it. When there's no danger Gohan does nothing, yet he is(used to be) the most potent fighter in the series.

Oh wow, because we want a Goku clone. That'd be a great idea. Let's just make Gohan a total clone of Goku who only thinks of fighting and training, instead of actually wanting to have a life. God forbid he doesn't actually want to go outside the martial arts and do something else, cause everyone should only think about fighting. That really makes for an interesting character. It's not like his hidden power actually kept giving him victories or if he just got mad he'd win every fight ever.

The Guru power up did jack shit and Krillin even got it too. He rages on Freeza, and Freeza shakes it off and still could kill him. Then we have him actually training with the Z-Sword until the Elder Kaioshin comes out. It may totally be a lazy plot device to allow Gohan to get stronger, but literally how else was he gonna do it while Goku was dead and even if alive would be unable to beat Super Boo? If Gotenks screwed up then earth goes boom. It's not like Boo was gonna sit and wait for Gohan to train til he gets strong enough. Even then that power up didn't do jack shit in the end because Boo pulls out random power from out of nowhere to turn the tides. A power you'd think the Kaioshin would have mentioned, but nope he remembers the absorption and still tells no one of it. If it's the deal with him fucking around, then you can fault every single character for doing that. Every character in the show fucks around and draws out their fights. And when Vegeta gets this "Bullshit Boost" that defies logic and surpasses SSJ3, everyone's all "Wooo hooo so awesome."

[RandomGuy96]

Even then that power up didn't do jack shit in the end because Boo pulls out random power from out of nowhere to turn the tides

"Random power'? He already utilized both absorption and detaching body parts earlier, and we know sneak attacks are super effective.

[dbzfan7]

Even then that power up didn't do jack shit in the end because Boo pulls out random power from out of nowhere to turn the tides

"Random power'? He already utilized both absorption and detaching body parts earlier, and we know sneak attacks are super effective.

It is random. He out of nowhere can absorb people and make him stronger. Something Kaioshin was even aware of, but never mentions for no reason because if he did, then things would have been different.

[Low Tone G]

Oh wow, because we want a Goku clone

We don't want a Goku clone, we would have wanted an educated, smart and genius superhero, which Goku has never been. So we would have wanted him to not only replace his father but to surpass him in every way not only in power, but intelligence, but he became only a scientist who dissipates his great fighting powers. He could have found a perfect balance between an eveyday life person and a martial artist.

[RandomGuy96]

Even then that power up didn't do jack shit in the end because Boo pulls out random power from out of nowhere to turn the tides

"Random power'? He already utilized both absorption and detaching body parts earlier, and we know sneak attacks are super effective.

It is random. He out of nowhere can absorb people and make him stronger. Something Kaioshin was even aware of, but never mentions for no reason because if he did, then things would have been different.

Except it's not, because we already saw him absorb people, detach body parts, use them to restrain enemies, and use sneak attacks. He's just utilizing the abilities he already had in another way. This isn't a new power; if we hadn't already seen his absorption ability used, Super Buu wouldn't even exist.

[Chuquita]

I believe Shen Long still gives 3 wishes but on BoG they only wanted him to bring the SSjG... and failing that, he answered the question about how to make him. Once that was done and with no other wish on the queue, he left.

They actually did the same back in the Buu saga. They only used one of three wishes to revive all the good people killed that day and sent him on his way.

I also think it's still 3 wishes. I thought the rule was if you only use one that you have to wait a shorter amount of time. Like 4 months for one wish or 8 months for 2 wishes.

[dbzfan7]

Except it's not, because we already saw him absorb people, detach body parts, use them to restrain enemies, and use sneak attacks. He's just utilizing the abilities he already had in another way. This isn't a new power; if we hadn't already seen his absorption ability used, Super Buu wouldn't even exist.

We only knew Candy beam affected Fat Boo and he got special treatment. Everyone else simply died. Nowhere was anyone aware he could absorb someone to get stronger. At most detaching a body part and grabbing someone would trap them, not absorb them. Kaioshin would have mentioned this ability earlier if he were aware of it, but the plot calls he doesn't know about it so Super Boo could pull out of his ass a way to win. Then Later Kaioshin was always aware of the ability, yet told no one because? He coulda just candy beamed someone as it's practically a one hit kill by itself, but instead we have him magically get stronger with an ability from out of nowhere.

Oh wow, because we want a Goku clone

We don't want a Goku clone, we would have wanted an educated, smart and genius superhero, which Goku has never been. So we would have wanted him to not only replace his fater but to surpass him in every way not only in power, but intelligence, but he became only a scientist who dissipates his great fighting powers. He could have found a perfect balance between an eveyday life person and a martial artist.

So you want a Spider-Man knock off. Also Vegeta is already considered the fighting genius as well as Goku. Gohan being school smart is not going to help him. Goku already is the genius fighter. Goku's intelligence in fighting is pretty much that. Gohan would just be a smart guy in society and fighting...his society intellect wouldn't really give that much of an advantage.

[sintzu]

And when Vegeta gets this "Bullshit Boost" that defies logic and surpasses SSJ3, everyone's all "Wooo hooo so awesome."

It was awesome especially the look on Beerus's face when his punch didn't do anything to Vegeta.

So what your saying is it's bullshit when Vegeta is able to surpass ssj3 but it's ok when Gohan does ? All i have to say is it must suck right now to be a Vegeta hater.

[Low Tone G]

So you want a Spider-Man knock off.

Not, but he was presented in the Saiyan saga to be have higher potential in every ways than Goku has ever had. I honestly was thinking that Gohan was the one who had the features that Goku has always lacked.

[Marco Polo]

I don't see any Vegeta "hater" here.

On the other hand, I see a Gohan hater who loves to repeat in every goddamn post how much he thinks Gohan is a lame character. You don't like it Gohan. We. Get. It.