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by Retan » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:24 pm
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Cetra wrote:Ultimate Gohan also can have totally "nice" eyes as we know.
Sure they can. I'm not talking about the angry eyes, I'm talking about the fully outlined eyes.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Okay, I'm curious. Everyone keeps talking about Ultimate Gohan's eyes, but I don't recall there being any difference between his regular and ultimate form. Out of the loop here....what eye change? D:
Originally, base Gohan's eyes, like Goku & Goten, were like this, not fully outlined:
After gaining the Ultimate power-up from Rou Kaioshin, his eyes turned like this:

Gohan always looks cross-eyed in that picture of Ultimate Gohan to me.
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by fadeddreams5 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:32 pm
Cool. Never noticed that. Though Ultimate Gohan does look weird in that second pic. lol.
Btw, the power level thing is just a reference to his namek battle power. Pic is basically just hyping him up by asking, "Is Frieza's power now more than 530,000?!" Also, that F song references the 530,000 power level too.
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by soulnova » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:33 pm
Oh god.
What if Gohan shows up in his Great Saiyaman outfit to confront Freeza, and him not knowing it is Gohan, actually compliments the "amazing" poses and wonders if he was part of the new Ginyu forces?? After that, Gohan never EVER uses them again.
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by Sshadow5001 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:40 pm
Yamcha has a scar on his eye...so it's not him
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by Low Tone G » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:55 pm
Gohan Ultimate eyes?
Really people, can you make a difference between normal Gohan eyes and Ultimate eyes? I think we can have him as Ultimate as he is not colored as a Super Saiyan(2) on the poster. Most logically no one needs to be Super Saiyan in that cast. Because Goku can fight in base with a power of a Super Saiyan God, and Vegeta will more than likely become a God too. But I don't want him to have blue aura. That's isn't nice, is it?
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by Marco Polo » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:56 pm
It's obviously Granpa Gohan. Earthlings love their sweatsuits.
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by Chuquita » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:26 pm
There's nothing new in the cinema today article as far as I can tell.
I think the big character pages updated for BOG in December, I think that will clear up what's with Gohan.
I'm sticking with my temporarily re-written history theory for now, at least until we see Trunks and Goten.
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by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:30 pm
He's realized that he can't just be a complete book nerd and expect to help out with a child that has Saiyan blood. Kid'll run him ragged.
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by Chuquita » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:35 pm
Checked my backlog, if we follow BOG's timing, plot update and a trailer may arrive two weeks from now.
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by Low Tone G » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:39 pm
Chuquita wrote:There's nothing new in the cinema today article as far as I can tell.
I think the big character pages updated for BOG in December, I think that will clear up what's with Gohan.
I'm sticking with my temporarily re-written history theory for now, at least until we see Trunks and Goten.
Fine theory, but why would Frieza still need to be resurrected in an alternate reality? I'm thinking about the poster.... BOG was scheduled to promote the whole franchise, so almost all the cat members were addded. But now they didn't want to add only the cast members, only those who play major roles in this movie, or these are the only ones who will be present in this film? Becuase I would miss Bulma(even is she won't meet Goku), Bra and Pan. Bra should be born if the film takes place 3 years after BOG, shouldn't she?
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by fadeddreams5 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:54 pm
This Frieza being from an alternate universe would kill the whole premise of Frieza returning, imo. I mean, it's no different from them fighting Raichi's ghost Frieza. Doesn't really count as fighting "our" Frieza--the one we've grown to love/loathe.
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by Chuquita » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:11 pm
I wouldn't have Freeza be from another universe. It's Uni 7's Freeza, it would be that same universe, only changed to his favor, but Freeza would still have all his memories from before. (Because that way he can wave what he's done in Gokû and Vegeta's faces. If Freeza doesn't recall the before world much banter is lost.)
Same bread, different peanut butter, for an analogy. Not sure that analogy works though. I'll post a better one if I can think of it
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by ZombieVito » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:12 pm
Super Saiyajin Luffy wrote:AjayLikesGaming wrote:
Oh no, not more power levels.

Isn't 530000 a powerlevel mentioned by Freeza during the Freeza Arc?
Yep, it's his BP in his 3rd suppression.
God I hope we do get new BP. There's a reason the new guys have advanced scouters.
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by Marco Polo » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:13 pm
They told us Freeza resurrects. They never told us when.
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by Chuquita » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:21 pm
Ok, better analogy: you draw a full page of a comic and then you erase the bottom portion of the page while leaving the top portion in tact. Then you draw something completely different in those panels, but it's still the same piece of paper.
Any other universes are completely different pieces of paper.
OR, to use a movie reference, the other type of time travel where the world you live in gets changed, but it doesn't create new timelines. Those doing the changing however still only have memories of their lives before the change, not after.
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by FortuneSSJ » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:27 pm
Well Goku was jogging in BOG, so this time is Gohan turn.
Never thought his outfit would cause such ruckus. His hairstyle can't be worse than it was in Namek either.
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by Darkron2151 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:28 pm
Super Saiyajin Luffy wrote:AjayLikesGaming wrote:
Oh no, not more power levels.

Isn't 530000 a powerlevel mentioned by Freeza during the Freeza Arc?
That's the power of Freeza's First Form (or Third Suppression State) to be exact.
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by Puto » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:29 pm
Yes, it's Gohan. The filename on the official website was ‘gohan.png’.
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by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:48 pm
Chuquita wrote:I wouldn't have Freeza be from another universe. It's Uni 7's Freeza, it would be that same universe, only changed to his favor, but Freeza would still have all his memories from before. (Because that way he can wave what he's done in Gokû and Vegeta's faces. If Freeza doesn't recall the before world much banter is lost.)
I've always been under the impression that the other universes aren't actually parallel/alternate realities, but rather physical locations where other strong beings, completely different to Goku and co., could be living. At least, that's how they made it sound at the end of BOG and in the Chozenshuu.
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by Bullza » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:48 pm
What if Gohan shows up in his Great Saiyaman outfit to confront Freeza, and him not knowing it is Gohan, actually compliments the "amazing" poses and wonders if he was part of the new Ginyu forces??
No thank you, I'd rather it stay clear of the campy moments that let the previous movie done some.
On a side note I hope to god Pilaf and co aren't in this movie.