Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:37 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:Broly's hair was Green, there is no explaination why it was. It just was. Was it said that LSSJ had green hair? No.
The reason Broli's hair were green was because it was a side-effect from the mind-control device. Same for his hair being purple in SS. His hair were golden in SS & LSS during M10 & M11.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Galan007 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:39 pm

But when Broly went LSSJ, the mind-control device was no longer present... :?

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Post by VyeRo » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:42 pm

Power rangers..? Where did that come from? :lol:

I don't really think it matters what color it ends up being, it's just part of the discussion considering we still don't know a whole lot about the movie.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:48 pm

Galan007 wrote:But when Broly went LSSJ, the mind-control device was no longer present... :?
It was present when he went SS, and his hair turned purple. It's because of his SS hair being purple that his hair turned green after that.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:55 pm

About the minions
I wonder how strong they will be. Ginyu Force were supposed to the the strongest of Freeza army. But that was years ago, and these two may already surprassed them.
Even so, Its hard to see how they will be a challenge. Because they won't be stronger than Freeza and Freeza will became a threat because the wish.

Unless the wish won't be so simple like people are thinking...

The small one, reminds me of Guldo and Babidi, so I'm expecting him to have some kind of special power that will be troublesome.
Krillin will fight this one.

The taller one, seems stronger and I think he will already have normal attacks.
Piccolo/Gohan will fight this one.

Beerus and Whis will reveal something new about Freeza that we don't know. Maybe about the saiyans too.

Both Goku and Vegeta will fight Freeza. But Vegeta should be the one to take him down.
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Post by Galan007 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:56 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Galan007 wrote:But when Broly went LSSJ, the mind-control device was no longer present... :?
It was present when he went SS, and his hair turned purple. It's because of his SS hair being purple that his hair turned green after that.
That doesn't make any sense. I mean, I guess I could understand if the mind-control device were still intact... But it wasn't.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:09 pm

Galan007 wrote:That doesn't make any sense. I mean, I guess I could understand if the mind-control device were still intact... But it wasn't.
It was a side-effect that had still remained from the purple hair. Because he had already transformed once with the device, his second transformation was still affected even without the device. That side-effect wore out towards the end of the fight, where his hair turned golden, and when he reverted to Super Saiyan when he arrived on Earth (as we see in M10), his hair remained golden.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Low Tone G » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:17 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:About the minions
I wonder how strong they will be. Ginyu Force were supposed to the the strongest of Freeza army. But that was years ago, and these two may already surprassed them.
Even so, Its hard to see how they will be a challenge. Because they won't be stronger than Freeza and Freeza will became a threat because the wish.

Unless the wish won't be so simple like people are thinking...

The small one, reminds me of Guldo and Babidi, so I'm expecting him to have some kind of special power that will be troublesome.
Krillin will fight this one.

The taller one, seems stronger and I think he will already have normal attacks.
Piccolo/Gohan will fight this one.

Beerus and Whis will reveal something new about Freeza that we don't know.

Both Goku and Vegeta will fight Freeza. But Vegeta should be the one to take him down.
I think none of heroes will be able to kill Frieza, I do not see why would Toriyama bring back Frieza just to be killed once again either by Vegeta or Goku. I think You're right about Frieza, Beerus will reveal something interesting about him. I think Whis will open a gate to other universes, and trap Frieza that that hole to be prisonier of the worm-hole, or whatever it will be called.

It think the advanture with Frieza will open the issue of the Dragon Ball's twelve even more than it was in BOG, especially that this is a direct continutation of the previous story. So they will definitely travel all the universes to search for being stronger than Frieza to defeat him. All these will be shown in a third, final story. My guesses, though.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:19 pm

But Broly SS3 is green too, by the looks of it he isn't under mind control.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:23 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:But Broly SS3 is green too, by the looks of it he isn't under mind control.
He is shown to have transformed after his green LSS, so the side-effect still remained. In the video games, if you chose M10 Broli costume, he has blond hair in SS3.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:25 pm

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I think none of heroes will be able to kill Freeza, I do not see why would Toriyama bring back Freeza just to be killed once again either by Vegeta or Goku. I think You're right about Freeza, Beerus will reveal something interesting about him. I think Whis will open a gate to other universes, and trap Freeza that that hole to be prisonier of the worm-hole, or whatever it will be called.

It think the advanture with Freeza will open the issue of the Dragon Ball's twelve even more than it was in BOG, especially that this is a direct continutation of the previous story. So they will definitely travel all the universes to search for being stronger than Freeza to defeat him. All these will be shown in a third, final story. My guesses, though.
I like that idea. It would make another unpredictable ending.
Anything that isn't ordinary, its great to me.

Nobody beating the villain in the end in BOG was already a great surprise. To know Whis was even stronger and there are other universer was a greater one. All people bashing before the movie came out, saying Goku would win once again with a Kamehameha or Genkidama, had to fight another thing to hate.

I hope Tori does something surprising again. He's awesome when he wants.
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Post by Galan007 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:28 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Galan007 wrote:That doesn't make any sense. I mean, I guess I could understand if the mind-control device were still intact... But it wasn't.
It was a side-effect that had still remained from the purple hair. Because he had already transformed once with the device, his second transformation was still affected even without the device. That side-effect wore out towards the end of the fight, where his hair turned golden, and when he reverted to Super Saiyan when he arrived on Earth (as we see in M10), his hair remained golden.
Is this just your opinion, or is there evidence to support you?

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FortuneSSJ wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:
I think none of heroes will be able to kill Freeza, I do not see why would Toriyama bring back Freeza just to be killed once again either by Vegeta or Goku. I think You're right about Freeza, Beerus will reveal something interesting about him. I think Whis will open a gate to other universes, and trap Freeza that that hole to be prisonier of the worm-hole, or whatever it will be called.

It think the advanture with Freeza will open the issue of the Dragon Ball's twelve even more than it was in BOG, especially that this is a direct continutation of the previous story. So they will definitely travel all the universes to search for being stronger than Freeza to defeat him. All these will be shown in a third, final story. My guesses, though.
I like that idea. It would make another unpredictable ending.
Anything that isn't ordinary, its great to me.

Nobody beating the villain in the end in BOG was already a great surprise. To know Whis was even stronger and there are other universer was a greater one. All people bashing before the movie came out, saying Goku would win once again with a Kamehameha or Genkidama, had to fight another thing to hate.

I hope Tori does something surprising again. He's awesome when he wants.
Eh I find the ending to be a tad bit overrated. Besides the universe being more than one. It wasn't that "shocking ending" or "surprise". I do want the movie to be better than BoG. I was quite disappointed with BoG. With Freeza coming back I want a great plot. I wonder how the minions know about earth's DB?

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:44 pm

New fusion confirmed: Tori Gohan.
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Post by Low Tone G » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:47 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:
I think none of heroes will be able to kill Freeza, I do not see why would Toriyama bring back Freeza just to be killed once again either by Vegeta or Goku. I think You're right about Freeza, Beerus will reveal something interesting about him. I think Whis will open a gate to other universes, and trap Freeza that that hole to be prisonier of the worm-hole, or whatever it will be called.

It think the advanture with Freeza will open the issue of the Dragon Ball's twelve even more than it was in BOG, especially that this is a direct continutation of the previous story. So they will definitely travel all the universes to search for being stronger than Freeza to defeat him. All these will be shown in a third, final story. My guesses, though.
I like that idea. It would make another unpredictable ending.
Anything that isn't ordinary, its great to me.

Nobody beating the villain in the end in BOG was already a great surprise. To know Whis was even stronger and there are other universer was a greater one. All people bashing before the movie came out, saying Goku would win once again with a Kamehameha or Genkidama, had to fight another thing to hate.

I hope Tori does something surprising again. He's awesome when he wants.
Eh I find the ending to be a tad bit overrated. Besides the universe being more than one. It wasn't that "shocking ending" or "surprise". I do want the movie to be better than BoG. I was quite disappointed with BoG. With Freeza coming back I want a great plot. I wonder how the minions know about earth's DB?
I share that opinion. BOG was a great movie, I think the best DBZ movie, but still it could have been even better. I think BOG was just an attempt to check the fadom's reaction out.

The minions has surely learnt about the Dragon Balls through research. For me there is only one thing that makes me to feel that bringing back Freeza isn't entirely baseless. I've always wondered what happened with Freeza's loyal underlings if none of our heroes bothered to finish that empire off after the Freeza saga. So even if I'm not satisfied with Freeza to come back again his presence isn't that totally pointless.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:48 pm

Galan007 wrote:Is this just your opinion, or is there evidence to support you?
There is evidence. In M10 & M11, his hair are golden in both SS & LSS. Meaning that, including games:

Base with MC device ---> purple SS ---> green LSS ---> green SS3 ---> green Golden Oozaru
Base without MC device ---> golden SS --- golden LSS ---> golden SS3 ---> golden Golden Oozaru (we haven't see the last one, but that should be it logically.)
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by sintzu » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:50 pm

Low Tone G wrote: I think none of heroes will be able to kill Freeza.
I think Vegeta will beat him but before he can finish him he finds a way to open a gate to another universes and escape to it which will lead into the 3rd movie.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:54 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:But Broly SS3 is green too, by the looks of it he isn't under mind control.
He is shown to have transformed after his green LSS, so the side-effect still remained. In the video games, if you chose M10 Broli costume, he has blond hair in SS3.
Oh, I did not know that. That's pretty cool.
TheGmGoken wrote: Eh I find the ending to be a tad bit overrated. Besides the universe being more than one. It wasn't that "shocking ending" or "surprise". I do want the movie to be better than BoG. I was quite disappointed with BoG. With Freeza coming back I want a great plot. I wonder how the minions know about earth's DB?
So Goku losing a fight and giving up isn't surprising?

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:57 pm

Low Tone G wrote: I share that opinion. BOG was a great movie, I think the best DBZ movie, but still it could have been even better. I think BOG was just an attempt to check the fadom's reaction out.

The minions has surely learnt about the Dragon Balls through research. For me there is only one thing that makes me to feel that bringing back Freeza isn't entirely baseless. I've always wondered what happened with Freeza's loyal underlings if none of our heroes bothered to finish that empire off after the Freeza saga. So even if I'm not satisfied with Freeza to come back again his presence isn't that totally pointless.
And let's not forget this was teased in BOG. Beerus was surprised Freeza was Killed. He was saying maybe he would do it himself.
Those flashbacks of Goku figting Freeza wasn't just for the show. His revival won't be pointless and will bring us some new backstory.
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Post by Chuquita » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:00 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:New fusion confirmed: Tori Gohan.
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It makes me think of when Nozawa interviewed him on camera while BOG promos where going on; he had on a dark blue sweatsuit; Gokû turns up in BOG wearing a light blue sweatsuit. XD

I partly entertain the idea of him picking whatever gym clothes he was wearing that day and using that for a character's casual outfit because it's easier to just draw what you're wearing than thinking something up. XD

Like how Beerus is his cat instead of just any ol cat.
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