Battle of Gods compared to One Piece Film Z

[NintendoBlaze53]

Just finished watching One Piece Film Z and it got me thinking about it compared to Battle of Gods. Both movies came out in theaters 3 months from each other, both are made by Toei, etc. I noticed the CGI is way better in Film Z compared to BOG, I felt the production value was better overall. So for those who have seen both, which one do you think is better (Stupid question for a Dragon Ball fourm, I know) & do you see the similarities?
I enjoyed Film Z more than BOG. Madman even released both on the same day, did Funi do that? It was just something I had in the back of my mind during my viewing of Film Z. I know there are a few One Piece fans on these fourms.

[Lord Beerus]

One Piece Film Z is certainly a superior film compared to Battle Of Gods in every department. But it's to be expected considering One Piece is way bigger in Japan than Dragon Ball is and makes a lot more money than the Dragon Ball franchise. And because of this Toei put more effort in making sure One Piece looks good than compared to Dragon Ball.

It's just such a shame that One Piece Film Z didn't sell all that well in America or Europe, because as far as shonen movies go, it's one of the best ever made.

[Doctor.]

Better in tems of what? Animation, quality? In both aspects, Film Z is much better, which is not surprising considering One Piece is a better written and overall a much better series than Dragon Ball; and Toei Animation also puts more effort into animating OP specials and movies than DB's.

[Black_Liger]

I never really got why people like One Piece so much. The art style is enough to make me cringe, however, I do think Toei clearly puts more effort into One Piece, Dragon Ball, as a series has lived a lot and it already ended, One piece apparently is a juggernaut and has lived a lot, and still has a long way to go to actually end. So Naturally Toei sees it as a much more important cash cow.


I do think however that when One piece end, nobody will even try to read it or watch it, way too long. Impossible to follow if it has 10 more years, Jojo atleast is separated with names for each part. I don't see myself ever following one piece. Nah, I'll stick with Dragon Ball, Jojo and Hunter x Hunter.

[rereboy]

I do think however that when One piece end, nobody will even try to read it or watch it, way too long.

Er... Okay...

Anyway, Film Z is just better than Battle of Gods. In comparison, Battle of Gods seems cheap.

[sangofe]

I enjoyed Battle of Gods more, but that's because I'm a much bigger Dragonball fan than One Piece fan

[Black_Liger]

I do think however that when One piece end, nobody will even try to read it or watch it, way too long.

Er... Okay...

Anyway, Film Z is just better than Battle of Gods. In comparison, Battle of Gods seems cheap.

Personal opinion,I have trouble going back to short anime that I finish, I even have trouble watching dbz again, I do see One piece surviving my movies though and I would watch them, that's the way it's going right now, Dbz ended, now it has movies, Naruto ended, now it has a new movie coming which is canon.

[rereboy]

Well, you did say nobody...

[Bullza]

Well I generally prefer One Piece to Dragon Ball when it comes to the manga but comparing the films I'd have to say I preferred Battle of Gods.

It had a better villain, it was funnier and it had better action scenes. Film Z was good too though as was Strong World.

[JulieYBM]

While One Piece Film Z is certainly one of the better written One Piece projects I think Dragon Ball Z: Kami to Kami did have the better script, if only because One Piece isn't so good at trying to mix drama with silliness. The animation was definitely stronger, which we can thank to a higher number of allotted drawings, a better director, and better performances from most of the same key animators.

[Chuquita]

Toei just likes OP more b/c it makes more money (at least, in Japan.)

Internationally, I think DB and Saint Seiya are the bigger sellers, but local sales matter more than international to Toei, I guess.

I like OP, but nowhere near how much I like DB. I think it comes down to, for the most part, I prefer Toriyama's sense of humor, and the lack of numerous heart-string tugs that are all over the place in OP. OP can get too sentimental sometimes for me.

I do like the size of OP's world though. You can literally have any type of adventure with all those isolated islands.

[Super Sonic]

One Piece Film Z is certainly a superior film compared to Battle Of Gods in every department. But it's to be expected considering One Piece is way bigger in Japan than Dragon Ball is and makes a lot more money than the Dragon Ball franchise. And because of this Toei put more effort in making sure One Piece looks good than compared to Dragon Ball.

It's just such a shame that One Piece Film Z didn't sell all that well in America or Europe, because as far as shonen movies go, it's one of the best ever made.

How far is the One Piece anime in Europe? Because while I haven't seen Film Z yet, I was surprised it got released when it did here. Because while Film Z can't take place in the timeline from what I've heard, it still is more or less after the timeskip. Season 6 just came out in the States a few weeks ago. So Funimation jumped ahead big time.

[JulieYBM]

Toei Animation does not fund the entirety of these movies. It's on all members of the production committee to insure the budget is plentiful.

[Lord Beerus]

One Piece Film Z is certainly a superior film compared to Battle Of Gods in every department. But it's to be expected considering One Piece is way bigger in Japan than Dragon Ball is and makes a lot more money than the Dragon Ball franchise. And because of this Toei put more effort in making sure One Piece looks good than compared to Dragon Ball.

It's just such a shame that One Piece Film Z didn't sell all that well in America or Europe, because as far as shonen movies go, it's one of the best ever made.

How far is the One Piece anime in Europe? Because while I haven't seen Film Z yet, I was surprised it got released when it did here. Because while Film Z can't take place in the timeline from what I've heard, it still is more or less after the timeskip. Season 6 just came out in the States a few weeks ago. So Funimation jumped ahead big time.

Depends what part of Europe you're talking about. In the UK, there is no One Piece anime. Period. Not since Toonami stopped broadcasting in 2007. But it is airing in few countries across Europe; Spain, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands and Russia. And most of those countries they've reached at least reached to episode 300. Funny enough, there a few countries that have released dozens of volumes of the manga only to pull the shelves for no reason. Finland and Denmark being the guiltiest culprits of this practice. They both released more than 55 volumes of the manga and then stopped releasing theme for no reason. It's even weirder in Finland's case because it was the second best selling manga ever, with only Dragon Ball beating it. Sweden also ended up pulling the manga from the shelves when it reached volume 66 due to strong declining sales. Initially it was planned for the whole series to be translated, but the assumption that this would be possible was made during a period of time when manga sold well in Sweden and the publishers didn't anticipate the eventual length of the series. The anime has also yet to be shown on TV, and it is unlikely that it will ever happen. And Portugal... good God. It must suck to anime or manga fan in that country, because the manga has never been released in Portugal. And anime has been though all kinds of development hell.

[FortuneSSJ]

And Portugal... good God. It must suck to anime or manga fan in that country, because the manga has never been released in Portugal. And anime has been though all kinds of development hell.

Lies. Evertime I go to Fnac, One Piece manga is there (I went there yesterday by the way).
Don't know what happened to the anime.

[dodge2461]

Honestly, I'm going to be in the minority and say that Battle of Gods was better.

Animation-wise, BoG may have had to resort to using CG on certain parts, but I find something happening on the screen much more appealing than the Evangelion-equse "Let's move the shot out so far that we won't have to animate the mouths" approach they took with Z.

Plot-wize, Z was more ambitious up front, I'll give it that, but that ambition turned against the film, what with Z's backstory, and the villains just not being up to snuff to the villains in the previous film, Strong World, which I find to be on par with Battle of Gods. Battle of Gods knew what it wanted to be: A silly 90 minute time sink, that ended with them seemingly rebooted the franchise, but that's put DB into the position that Z was in, what with this next film bringing back Freeza.

That's my two cents about it.

[qjz123]

Better in tems of what? Animation, quality? In both aspects, Film Z is much better, which is not surprising considering One Piece is a better written and overall a much better series than Dragon Ball; and Toei Animation also puts more effort into animating OP specials and movies than DB's.

As far as the art and animation goes here are a couple of scenes from Dragon ball z movie 5.






While the art for BOG might not be up to snuff lets not pretend that, that was always the case.

[Lord Beerus]

And Portugal... good God. It must suck to anime or manga fan in that country, because the manga has never been released in Portugal. And anime has been though all kinds of development hell.

Lies. Evertime I go to Fnac, One Piece manga is there (I went there yesterday by the way).
Don't know what happened to the anime.

Oh... my bad.

Guess my sources greatly misinformed me.

[rereboy]

And Portugal... good God. It must suck to anime or manga fan in that country, because the manga has never been released in Portugal. And anime has been though all kinds of development hell.

Lies. Evertime I go to Fnac, One Piece manga is there (I went there yesterday by the way).
Don't know what happened to the anime.

That's just some imported volumes from Viz. We have no release for One Piece. So, at the very least you have to know english and there's only random numbers of volumes available, so, if you are trying to buy it from Volume 1 and read it, you are going to have a hard time. Not to mention its expensive.

[Vegard Aune]

Depends what part of Europe you're talking about. In the UK, there is no One Piece anime. Period. Not since Toonami stopped broadcasting in 2007.

Not quite true. It doesn't air on TV, but Manga UK is releasing DVD-collections based off FUNi's sets. Not sure how far along they've gotten. They're also getting the movies in these three-pack DVD-sets, so they're actually even getting things that FUNi has not put out themselves. (Though I hear their subtitles for the movies are somewhat poor.)

As for the topic... yeah, as my avatar might indicate I'm gonna have to say Film Z is the superior movie. Aside from having vastly superior animation-quality, it's also a lot more "cinematic" in terms of its story, characterization, pacing etc., and honestly it feels like a more satisfying experience. (Because really, Battle of Gods's ending was in some senses a little too inconclusive.)