The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Angelus]

Imperfect Cell VS Tien's Neo Tri Beam barrages (the same way he did to Semi-Perfect Cell, except its on Imperfect Cell), Yamcha and Krillin shooting Kamehamehas, Chiaotzu shooting Dodon rays

Could they do significant damage to Imperfect Cell, if Cell just takes it all on like Semi-perfect Cell did? Stipulation is, Earth won't blow up no matter how strong the attacks are.

[Galan007]

Gohan wins. I see bulked up form as just having a lot more muscle mass and physical strength, not necessarily ki. And they'd have trouble using it for a long time or in a powerful condensed blast.

Really? Judging by Trunks' statement after Cell morphed into that power-weighted form, I assumed that Cell's raw power had increased tremendously, but the added musculature neutered his speed just as much(akin to when Trunks himself went USSJ)..?

[Kamiccolo9]

So a character can increase their speed to 100% while still in a highly suppressed state, iyo? Sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense, and contradicts what we know about power/speed increases in DBZ.

Cell says, flat-out, that he's using his full speed but not his full power. You may think it makes no sense, but you're arguing with Cell here, and I think he knows what he is capable of better than you do.

[Galan007]

So a character can increase their speed to 100% while still in a highly suppressed state, iyo? Sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense, and contradicts what we know about power/speed increases in DBZ.

Cell says, flat-out, that he's using his full speed but not his full power. You may think it makes no sense, but you're arguing with Cell here, and I think he knows what he is capable of better than you do.

Full speed in his suppressed state, maybe... Unless you don't think he became any faster after fully powering up against SSJ2 Gohan(which, again, would make no sense in accordance with what we know about power/speed increases in DBZ)..?

And if that IS what you think, then we're done here.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I'm guessing Imperfect Cell would be pushed down by the Kikoho even more, but would still be able to finish Tien once it's done.

[Hugo Boss]

There's also a guidebook (though an anime-related one) that says SS1 Gohan had power surpassing Cell's.

That can't be the case for full power Cell. What book was that?

This one. Yeah, likely wasn't full power Cell, given the context (Gohan refusing to fight Cell, accompanied by a picture of Cell hugging him).

Though possessing power surpassing Cell, his gentle heart shied away from battle!

Though I agree SS Gohan could be stronger than Supressed Cell and the guide is clearly referring to SS Grade IV, I don't think the statement is necesseraly linked to it. Seems more like it is comparing Gohan and Cell in general.

[Darkron2151]

Imperfect Cell VS Tenshinhan's Neo Tri Beam barrages (the same way he did to Semi-Perfect Cell, except its on Imperfect Cell), Yamcha and Krillin shooting Kamehamehas, Chiaotzu shooting Dodon rays

Could they do significant damage to Imperfect Cell, if Cell just takes it all on like Semi-perfect Cell did? Stipulation is, Earth won't blow up no matter how strong the attacks are.

It would probably just end up like it did last time, with Cell coming out with maybe a few scratches on him and Tenshinhan nearly dead.

[ZombieVito]

Bora vs 21st TB Roshi.

[RandomGuy96]

Bora vs 21st TB Roshi.

Bora stomps. Even RRA arc Goku could get hurt by pistol bullets, and was unable to survive a point blank shotgun blast to the face. Bora took shots to the chest from several pistols, SMGs, and shotguns at fairly close range and was totally fine.

[Angelus]

Bora vs 21st TB Roshi.

Bora stomps. Even RRA arc Goku could get hurt by pistol bullets, and was unable to survive a point blank shotgun blast to the face. Bora took shots to the chest from several pistols, SMGs, and shotguns at fairly close range and was totally fine.

Where does it show that Goku couldn't survive that?

[Angelus]

Mr. Buu runs through the End of Z Gauntlet:
How far can he go?

SSJ2 Vegeta
SSJ Trunks
SSJ Goten
Piccolo
Android 17
Android 18
Tien
Chiaotzu
Krillin
Yamcha


And now 28th WMAT Pan runs the Gauntlet:

22nd WMAT Roshi
Korin
Popo
Kami
Raditz
Nappa

[ZombieVito]

Mr. Buu runs through the End of Z Gauntlet:
How far can he go?

SSJ2 Vegeta
SSJ Trunks
SSJ Goten
Piccolo
Android 17
Android 18
Tenshinhan
Chiaotzu
Krillin
Yamcha


And now 28th WMAT Pan runs the Gauntlet:

22nd WMAT Roshi
Karin
Popo
Kami
Raditz
Nappa

Mr.Buu beats everyone, unless he hits Bulma.

Are you serious about the other Gauntlet?

[Angelus]

Well, I have no idea how powerful 28th WMAT Pan was. All I know was that her feat of flying around the world doesn't seem that amazing when you know that 22nd WMAT Goku can swim from Yahhoi, which is from the absolute opposite side of the world, to Papaya Island quickly.

[dbzfan7]

Mr. Buu runs through the End of Z Gauntlet:
How far can he go?

SSJ2 Vegeta
SSJ Trunks
SSJ Goten
Piccolo
Android 17
Android 18
Tenshinhan
Chiaotzu
Krillin
Yamcha


And now 28th WMAT Pan runs the Gauntlet:

22nd WMAT Roshi
Karin
Popo
Kami
Raditz
Nappa

Mr. Boo beats all unless Vegeta pulls out the bullshit boost somehow.

Pan probably considering she probably inherited great power from her dad.

[Darkron2151]

Well, I have no idea how powerful 28th WMAT Pan was. All I know was that her feat of flying around the world doesn't seem that amazing when you know that 22nd WMAT Goku can swim from Yahhoi, which is from the absolute opposite side of the world, to Papaya Island quickly.

The funny thing is that no one really knows how strong Pan is. All we have to go by her flying around the world, to where Goku says that was "pretty fast", and him also saying that she'll go far in the tournament. I just make her strong due to her amazing genetics .

[Michelle91]

Pan at end of DBZ's best feat was flying across the Planet super fast. Other then that, we have no idea how strong she is via power scaling. She is likely stronger then Gohan at the start of DBZ. I think she could make it up to Nappa and lose.

[Angelus]

HERE WE GO! SOME MORE MATCH UPS!

Kid Buu VS Mr. Buu/Good Buu and Base Gotenks (Post-ROSAT)

Raditz VS Saiyan Saga Chiaotzu and Yajirobe (no sword); No tail grabbing or cutting

End of Z Chiaotzu VS Cui

Kibito VS Frieza

Dabura VS Kibito Kai

Mecha Frieza VS SSJ Goku (Namek)

Android 17 VS Android 18 and SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance when he killed Mecha Frieza and King Cold)

Burter and Jeice VS Nail, Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillin (the same time when Vegeta faced Recoome, except Recoome isn't in the fight and Nail came along)

Saibaman VS Saiyan Saga Yajirobe (no sword), Kami, Popo, Korin, Roshi, Crane Hermit, Cyborg Tao, Chi Chi, Ox King, Bora, Bandages the Mummy, Fangs the Vampire, See-Through the Invisible Man, Spike the Devilman (no devilmite beam), Nam, Giran, Ranfan, Blonde Launch, Pamput, Man-Wolf (wolf form), and Bacterian (without foul odor)

Pui Pui VS Ginyu Force (but with no time stop and body switching)

Videl (post Gohan training) VS Tall Orin Temple Bully

Babidi VS Kami

Popo VS King Piccolo, Drum, Tambourine, Cymbal, and Goku (post-ultra divine water)

[Michelle91]

HERE WE GO! SOME MORE MATCH UPS!

Kid Buu VS Mr. Buu/Good Buu and Base Gotenks (Post-ROSAT)

Raditz VS Saiyan Saga Chiaotzu and Yajirobe (no sword); No tail grabbing or cutting

End of Z Chiaotzu VS Cui

Kibito VS Freeza

Dabura VS Kibito Kai

Mecha Freeza VS SSJ Goku (Namek)

Android 17 VS Android 18 and SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance when he killed Mecha Freeza and King Cold)

Burter and Jeice VS Nail, Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillin (the same time when Vegeta faced Recoome, except Recoome isn't in the fight and Nail came along)

Saibaman VS Yajirobe (no sword), Kami, Popo, Karin, Roshi, Crane Hermit, Cyborg Tao, Chi Chi, Ox King, Bora, Bandages the Mummy, Fangs the Vampire, See-Through the Invisible Man, Spike the Devilman (no devilmite beam), Nam, Giran, Ranfan, Blonde Launch, Pamput, Man-Wolf (wolf form), and Bacterian (without foul odor)

Pui Pui VS Ginyu Force (but with no time stop and body switching)

Videl (post Gohan training) VS Tall Orin Temple Bully

Babidi VS Kami

Popo VS King Piccolo, Drum, Tambourine, Cymbal, and Goku (post-ultra divine water)

1. I think Kid Buu would win, but it was a decent fight

2. Radditz stomps. Neither of them would last very long and Chaozu blowing himself up could do some serious damage to Radditz. I don't think it would be enough to kill him.

3. Cui was just as strong Saiyan saga Vegeta. EOZ Chaozu might not be strong enough to beat Nappa, so he loses.

4. Kibto would probably win.

5. Hard to tell on how much stronger Kibitoshin is since he never fought at all in DBZ. Kaioshin made Piccolo scared of fighting him and Piccolo is much stronger then he was in the Cell games. Piccolo during the Cell games train in the Room of Spirit and Time, so he should be at FPSSj level during the Buu saga without his weight clothes on in my opinion. If I had to guess then I think Kibitoshin could pull off a win.

6. Goku would probably win.

7. #17 would probably win

8. Team 2 wins

9. Saibaman stomps

10. Captain Ginyu on his own would take this

11. IDK

12. Babidi never seem strong on his own. I do think Kami would probably win.

[Angelus]

8. Team 2 wins

Which team is that?

Oh and you missed the 13th match up lol

[Kaboom]

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.

1) Kid Buu VS Mr. Buu/Good Buu and Base Gotenks (Post-ROSAT)
2) Raditz VS Saiyan Saga Chiaotzu and Yajirobe (no sword); No tail grabbing or cutting
3) End of Z Chiaotzu VS Cui
4) Kibito VS Freeza
5) Dabura VS Kibito Kai
6) Mecha Freeza VS SSJ Goku (Namek)
7) Android 17 VS Android 18 and SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance when he killed Mecha Freeza and King Cold)
8) Burter and Jeice VS Nail, Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillin (the same time when Vegeta faced Recoome, except Recoome isn't in the fight and Nail came along)
9) Saibaman VS Yajirobe (no sword), Kami, Popo, Karin, Roshi, Crane Hermit, Cyborg Tao, Chi Chi, Ox King, Bora, Bandages the Mummy, Fangs the Vampire, See-Through the Invisible Man, Spike the Devilman (no devilmite beam), Nam, Giran, Ranfan, Blonde Launch, Pamput, Man-Wolf (wolf form), and Bacterian (without foul odor)
10) Pui Pui VS Ginyu Force (but with no time stop and body switching)
11) Videl (post Gohan training) VS Tall Orin Temple Bully
12) Babidi VS Kami
13) Popo VS King Piccolo, Drum, Tambourine, Cymbal, and Goku (post-ultra divine water)

1) Whether it's Mr. Boo before or after his power-split, or whether he got his power back again, or whatever... Pure Boo wins. Base Gotenks is as inconsequential in the Boo arc as any other base-form Saiyan save for possibly Vegetto.

2) These two are stronger at this point than Goku and Piccolo were, but they're also less skilled and lacking in battle instinct. Without Yajirobe being able to rely on his sword or grabbing Raditz's tail, they probably won't last long enough against Raditz to bring him down.

3) Poor Chaozu always has been and remained the weakest of the "humans" in my book, but after spending so much time on Kaio's planetoid and training with Tenshinhan for several more decades thereafter, I'm willing to throw End-of-Z Chaozu a bone and consider him to be around the same strength as Vegeta against the Ginyu Force. So he takes this one.

4) Kibito was on-par with Gohan in battle power, but that's only about half of Freeza's 100% in my book, and he doesn't have much going for him beyond that battle power, if you ask me. Freeza wins this.

5) Definitely giving this one to merged Kaioshin. I don't think he was all that far behind Dabra even before his fusion, which in my eyes put him up on a high Super Saiyan 2 level on-par with Goku or Vegeta. Dabra meanwhile is moderately weaker than SS1 Gohan, and gets turned to mush.

6) Freeza's closed the gap and is more or less Goku's equal now in raw power, but Goku's still the more skilled of the two, and we don't know if those new cybernetics helped Freeza at all with the strain of his 100% power. Goku wins a close and brutal fight.

7) If both Androids are operating at full power, then Trunks isn't going to matter all that much. Eighteen and Trunks' chances of winning are very slim.

8) The group of heroes (plus Vegeta) win this one, but it's a close call, and Nail does most of the work.

9) I think raw strength in numbers is going to prevail here, but only if Yajirobe is his post-Saiyans-training self, and thus able to take on most of the workload. If this is BEFORE anyone has trained for the Saiyans' arrival, then... pshh. A single Saibaiman can kill them all pretty easily.

10) I usually like to give Pui-Pui some extra credit and consider him between 1st- and 2nd-form Freeza in power, given how Bobbidi supposedly only recruited the universe's strongest warriors. So with their fancier tricks being denied them, the Ginyu Force gets easily solo'd.

11) I'll give this one to Videl. Mostly just my gut saying so, but I do think that just by learning how to use her ki, her battle power managed to rise a noteworthy amount. In a word... she's now technically "super-human," and they're not.

12) If Bobbidi's magic is potent enough that even the Kaioshin, the god among gods, is wary of him, then I'm betting Kami won't be able to resist whatever tricks the slimy little wizard has up his sleeves.

13) I think Popo's popownage of Goku when they first met was due more to his ki-sensing advantage and being acclimated to the temple's atmosphere, and less from a huge gap in power. So by working together with the demon-spawn as back up, Goku and Piccolo can PROBABLY take Popo down. I'll label this one a 50/50 thing.