The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Darkron2151 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:45 pm

Angelus wrote:Hmmm... this is a bit confusing.... I thought Full Power Perfect Cell was slightly weaker than Cell Games MSSJ/FPSSJ Gohan, in the manga?

Here's another set then. lol


Culture Fluid Bio-Broly VS Super Android 13

Blonde Launch (no guns) VS Bear Thief (no sword)

End of Z Trunks VS Cell Games ASSJ/USSJ Future Trunks with sword and saiyan armor (USSJ, if ASSJ isn't enough)

Grand Kai VS Mecha Freeza

Abo VS End of Z Krillin

SSJ Goku Jr. VS Nappa

Kibito VS Great Ape Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)-- no tail cutting
No, it was the suppressed Perfect Cell that was weaker than SSJ Gohan. Full Power Perfect Cell is MUCH stronger.

1. Bio-Broly beat the piss out of Trunks and Goten, who are WAAAAY stronger than 16, who is stronger than Super 13. Bio-Broly one-shots.

2. The only thing special about Launch was her guns. Other than that, she has little to no fighting skills. At least the Bear Bandit has size and strength on her. Bear Bandit takes this.

3. I have no earthy idea how strong Grand Kaio is :? .....er, Freeza!

4. For once, I'll give this to Future Trunks. I have his present self much stronger than his Cell games counterpart, but the Boost from the SSJG2 should be enough for Future Trunks to beat him, plus no speed reduction.

5. I'll go with Krillin. I only have Abo and Cado separately comparable to First Form Freeza anyways, while I have Krillin in the low millions.

6. Which Goku Jr.? The one in the special or the one that fought Vegeta Jr.? Eh, doesn't matter. Nappa beats both.

7. Kibito was stated to be on par with Buu Saga Base Gohan. Saiyan Saga Vegeta could turn SSJ3 and he would still have NO chance.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:54 pm

Oh so Perfect Cell did have a sure win back then. Looks like Goku's wild card being Gohan would have been a failure, had Gohan not turned SSJ2.

Cool! And... ANOTHER SET! lol


Goku (newly arrived on Namek, no kaioken) VS Recoome, Burter, Jeice, Guldo, Dodoria, transformed Zarbon, Cui, Nail, Vegeta (pre-Recoome fight), Great Ape Nappa

Captain Ginyu (no body change) VS Vegeta (post-Recoome fight senzu zenkai)

Semi-Perfect Cell VS Eastern Supreme Kai

Turles Crusher Corps (Amond, Cacao, Daiz, Rasin, Lakasei) VS Vegeta and Nappa (Saiyan Saga)

Future Android 18 VS Android 13

Neiz VS Maraikoh

Aka VS Android 17

USSJ Future Trunks (pre 2nd day ROSAT) VS Cell Jr. (a Cell Jr. is weaker than Perfect Cell, afterall)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Galan007 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:15 pm

Angelus wrote:Oh so Perfect Cell did have a sure win back then. Looks like Goku's wild card being Gohan would have been a failure, had Gohan not turned SSJ2.

Cool! And... ANOTHER SET! lol


Goku (newly arrived on Namek, no kaioken) VS Recoome, Burter, Jeice, Guldo, Dodoria, transformed Zarbon, Cui, Nail, Vegeta (pre-Recoome fight), Great Ape Nappa

Captain Ginyu (no body change) VS Vegeta (post-Recoome fight senzu zenkai)

Semi-Perfect Cell VS Eastern Supreme Kai

Future Android 18 VS Android 13

USSJ Future Trunks (pre 2nd day ROSAT) VS Cell Jr. (a Cell Jr. is weaker than Perfect Cell, afterall)
Perfect Cell(full power) was FAR beyond FPSSJ Gohan and Goku.


Goku would defeat all of them, effortlessly.
IIRC, Vegeta didn't receive any further zenkais between his fight with Recoome, and his power-lock with base form Freeza. Based on the latter instance, he should stomp Ginyu, I'd think. /shrug
Kaio wins. I can't imagine Semi-Perfect Cell being able to affect Fat Buu(or Buu era SSJ2 Gohan) at all. Kaio did.
#13 stomps. He wrecked base SSJs like they were fodder.
Cell Junior wins. Trunks could barely manage to hold his own against a Cell Jr. during the Cell Games.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:22 pm

Can we have a chance to actually discuss the matchups before they get buried under a new set?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Galan007 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:34 pm

Doesn't seem that way. Angelus is still going strong!

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:51 pm

But it's USSJ Future Trunks, not ASSJ and a Cell Jr is weaker than a suppressed Perfect Cell.

LOL!! :lol: Actually yes, feel free to quote my former match up posts if you feel like one person's results is inaccurate. :)

Going strong it is!! Hahaha! Here you go! :thumbup:


Buu Saga Piccolo VS Culture Fluid Bio-Broly

Great Ape Vegeta (post-Recoome fight senzu zenkai) VS 3rd Form Frieza-- no tail cutting

Spice (Makyo Star Enhanced) VS Dore

Gohan and Krillin (Namek Saga) VS Vegeta and Nappa (Saiyan Saga)

Kaoiken x 3 Goku (Saiyan saga, uses KKx3 from the start) VS base Zarbon (no scouter and armor)

Injured Ginyu (Goku inside his body) VS Raditz

Mecha Frieza and King Cold VS Sick SSJ Goku (Androids saga, when he fought 19)

Kibito and Eastern Supreme Kai VS Dabura (no spitting), Majin Spopovich and Yamu

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Darkron2151 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:38 pm

Angelus wrote:
Buu Saga Piccolo VS Culture Fluid Bio-Broly

Great Ape Vegeta (post-Recoome fight senzu zenkai) VS 3rd Form Frieza-- no tail cutting

Spice (Makyo Star Enhanced) VS Dore

Gohan and Krillin (Namek Saga) VS Vegeta and Nappa (Saiyan Saga)

Goku (Saiyan sage, use up to Kaioken x3) VS no scouter Zarbon-- if Zarbon gets stomped, Zarbon transforms and then Goku uses Kaioken x4)

Injured Ginyu (Goku inside his body) VS Raditz

Mecha Freeza and King Cold VS Sick SSJ Goku (Androids saga, when he fought 19)

Kibito and Eastern Supreme Kai VS Dabura (no spitting)
1. Again, Bio-Broly beat the living piss out of SSJ Trunks and Goten, both of which implied to be above Piccolo. Bio-Broly stomps.

2. I give this to Vegeta. After the Zenkai, he was strong enough to do a little clash between him and First Form Freeza. Multiply that by ten and I don't think Third Form Freeza is anywhere near that power. (Fun Fact: According to my fan-made, non-official Power Level calculations, this hypothetical Great Ape Vegeta would be exactly double the power of Vegeta after he got healed by Dende :lol: .)

3. Doore and the rest of Coola's Armoured squadron weren't afraid of defeating someone that defeated Freeza. Also, judging by feats from Sauzer and crew, I'd put them around Second Form Freeza Level. Doore takes this.

4. So I'm assuming Oozaru is out? :lol: I'm also assuming this Gohan and Krillin are the ones who fought Guldo. In that case, Vegeta could probaby take them both while Nappa distracts them. Goku using KKx2 said Vegeta wasmuch more superior to him, and there was only a 1.125x difference between the two. However, Krillin could always spam Solar Flare and Kienzans.

5. I give it to Goku. He would have superior power, speed, and technique in both those cases.

6. I don't think Ginyu's body was weakened THAT that much, but probably hanging around 12,000 or so. Goku Ginyu stomps, and then dies from further blood loss.

7. I have Sick Goku just as strong as Yardrat Goku, so he takes this. Unless Freeza and Cold purposely prolong the fight and allow Goku's energy to diminish from the virus's strain.

8. SSJ Goku was prepared to blast East Kaioshin to oblivion with just a regular ki blast. Going by that, SSJ Goku woul;d be FAR superior to East Kaioshin. Dabura was even stronger than that. And Kibito's only like, mid-Freeza level. Dabura wrecks them both.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:15 pm

So I'm assuming Oozaru is out? :lol:
LOL!! Yeah, I have a thing with Great Apes. It's strange how much Frieza valued Vegeta as a trophy but never dubbed him as his most powerful henchman. Great Ape Vegeta was more powerful than Frieza's "elite" Ginyu Force.

I give it to Goku. He would have superior power, speed, and technique in both those cases.
Oh but you're forgetting the strain of Kaioken. :wave:

SSJ Goku was prepared to blast East Kaioshin to oblivion with just a regular ki blast. Going by that, SSJ Goku woul;d be FAR superior to East Kaioshin. Dabura was even stronger than that. And Kibito's only like, mid-Freeza level. Dabura wrecks them both.
Uh oh! I was actually thinking of Kibito using his paralyzing magic on Dabura. Eastern Supreme Kai then tries his best to kill Dabura. But can East Kaioshin succeed?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Galan007 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:32 pm

Angelus wrote:But it's USSJ Future Trunks, not ASSJ and a Cell Jr is weaker than a suppressed Perfect Cell.

Buu Saga Piccolo VS Culture Fluid Bio-Broly

Great Ape Vegeta (post-Recoome fight senzu zenkai) VS 3rd Form Frieza-- no tail cutting

Spice (Makyo Star Enhanced) VS Dore

Gohan and Krillin (Namek Saga) VS Vegeta and Nappa (Saiyan Saga)

Kaoiken x 3 Goku (Saiyan saga, uses KKx3 from the start) VS base Zarbon (no scouter and armor)

Injured Ginyu (Goku inside his body) VS Raditz

Mecha Freeza and King Cold VS Sick SSJ Goku (Androids saga, when he fought 19)

Kibito and Eastern Supreme Kai VS Dabura (no spitting), Majin Spopovich and Yamu
-Trunks being an USSJ simply means that a Cell Junior would beat him even easier. USSJ has great raw power, but it is too slow to be of use in any noteworthy battle.

-Judging by their power-lock, Vegeta seemed to be nearly equal to base form Freeza at this point, implying that his PL was ~500k. But even if his PL was only ~300k, he should still be able to defeat 3rd form Freeza with the Oozaru boost, as that would take his PL to ~3m.

-Going with Spice. It took an enraged Namek saga Gohan to defeat him--and an enraged Namek saga Gohan was able to nearly overpower 3rd form Freeza.

-Beginning of Namek saga Krillin/Gohan get stomped, end of Namek saga Krillin/Gohan stomp. It's that simple.

-KKx3 Goku's PL=23k. Zarbon's PL=23k. Goku is a much better fighter, however, so he'd win in a battle(assuming KK doesn't deplete him before he can get the job done, of course.)

-Raditz. Injured Ginyu appeared too weak to do much of anything. Mounting any sort of counterattack or defense just seems like it would be out of the question.

-Goku should stomp, as he was picking #19 apart before the virus took him down. Aside from that, Ten was marveling at Goku's SSJ power when he fought #19--and remember, Ten had already sensed he and Trunks' SSJ power 3 years prior, during the Mech Freeza/King Cold arc. So yeah...

-Kaio was terrified of Dabra. This suggests that Dabra's power was FAR superior to anything Kaio was capable of generating--and Kibito was only around base Gohan's level. Dabra wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:40 pm

But isn't USSJ, at that point in the series, advantageous to use up until you're fighting someone of suppressed Perfect Cell's level, something a Cell Jr is below of?
Galan007 wrote:-Kaio was terrified of Dabra. This suggests that Dabra's power was FAR superior to anything Kaio was capable of generating--and Kibito was only around base Gohan's level. Dabra wins.
You guys are forgetting that Kibito can paralyze Dabura with magic. East Kaoishin then treats Dabura as a punching bag... but will the gap in power enable East Kaioshin to kill Dabura with his hits? (this is the real question behind this match up) Majin Spopovich and Yamu are there to treat Kibito as their punching bag but Kibito isn't losing his focus on keeping Dabura paralyzed with his magic. If Kibito can paralyze SSJ2 Gohan, then so could he with Dabura. Creativity guys! :mrgreen:

I guess this would be my last set for the evening! :D


Goku (with Kaioken x10 to 20 on Namek, post-healing tank zenkai) VS Kibito

Blonde Launch (no guns) VS Anime Frog Ginyu (mute; wouldn't he know how to utilize ki still?)

Kibito Kai VS Majin SSJ2 Vegeta

Kamikaze Ghost (from post-ROSAT Gotenks) VS Guldo

Final Form Cooler VS Final Form 100% Frieza (Namek) and King Cold (first appearance)

Eastern Supreme Kai VS transformed Bido

Tullece Crusher Corps (Amond, Cacao, Daiz, Rasin, Lakasei) VS Vegeta and Nappa (Saiyan Saga)

Neiz VS Maraikoh

Aka VS Android 17

Great Ape Goku VS Great Ape Vegeta (Saiyan saga, when Vegeta creates the false moon, Goku suddenly grew back his tail and transforms too; no tail cutting)

Mercenary Tao VS Great Ape Goku (DB First Episode, no tail cutting or grabbing)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super SaiyaJon » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:26 pm

I'll take another go at it.
Angelus wrote: Goku (with Kaioken x10 to 20 on Namek, post-healing tank zenkai) VS Kibito

Blonde Launch (no guns) VS Anime Frog Ginyu (mute; wouldn't he know how to utilize ki still?)

Kibito Kai VS Majin SSJ2 Vegeta

Kamikaze Ghost (from post-ROSAT Gotenks) VS Guldo

Final Form Cooler VS Final Form 100% Freeza (Namek) and King Cold (first appearance)

Eastern Supreme Kai VS transformed Bido

Tullece Crusher Corps (Amond, Cacao, Daiz, Rasin, Lakasei) VS Vegeta and Nappa (Saiyan Saga)

Neiz VS Maraikoh

Aka VS Android 17

Great Ape Goku VS Great Ape Vegeta (Saiyan saga, when Vegeta creates the false moon, Goku suddenly grew back his tail and transforms too; no tail cutting)

Mercenary Tao VS Great Ape Goku (DB First Episode, no tail cutting or grabbing)
-Kibito stomps. Kibito is stated to be capable of giving base Gohan (Buu arc) a decent fight.

-Launch literally stomps. Ginyu wasn't able to control his ki in frog form at any point in the anime.

-I think Majin Vegeta should have this, but I'm honestly not sure.

-Tie. The ghost tries to blow up Guldo. They both die. It's called "Kamikaze" for a reason :lol:

-Freeza and Cold should have this as a team.

-Bido wins. Bido is just barely weaker than a Cell Jr. East Supreme Kai was afraid of Yakon, who is over 3x weaker than SSJ Goku. That's like pitting Heart Virus SSJ Goku against a Cell Jr.

-Vegeta and Nappa win. The members of the Crusher Corps are just a bit stronger than the Z fighters (minus Goku) in the movie. Nappa would probably struggle, but Vegeta would pull through.

-Sorry, don't have a clue

-Android 17 wins easily. Aka was one shotted by SSJ Goku (Jump Special). Adroid 17 could probably beat SSJ Goku (Jump Special).

-Great Ape Vegeta wins. Vegeta can control himself in Great Ape form. Great Ape Goku just flails around in Great Ape form.

-Great Ape Goku wins. Not only would Great Ape Goku's power level be over 4x as great (1000 for Great Ape Goku and 240 for Tao), but Mercenary Tao likely would be incapable of properly fighting a Great Ape with its huge size and weight and all. (See below)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Darkron2151 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:33 pm

Angelus wrote:But isn't USSJ, at that point in the series, advantageous to use up until you're fighting someone of suppressed Perfect Cell's level, something a Cell Jr is below of?

You guys are forgetting that Kibito can paralyze Dabura with magic. East Kaoishin then treats Dabura as a punching bag... but will the gap in power enable East Kaioshin to kill Dabura with his hits? (this is the real question behind this match up) Majin Spopovich and Yamu are there to treat Kibito as their punching bag but Kibito isn't losing his focus on keeping Dabura paralyzed with his magic. If Kibito can paralyze SSJ2 Gohan, then so could he with Dabura. Creativity guys! :mrgreen:

I guess this would be my last set for the evening! :D


Goku (with Kaioken x10 to 20 on Namek, post-healing tank zenkai) VS Kibito

Blonde Launch (no guns) VS Anime Frog Ginyu (mute; wouldn't he know how to utilize ki still?)

Kibito Kai VS Majin SSJ2 Vegeta

Kamikaze Ghost (from post-ROSAT Gotenks) VS Guldo

Final Form Cooler VS Final Form 100% Freeza (Namek) and King Cold (first appearance)

Eastern Supreme Kai VS transformed Bido

Tullece Crusher Corps (Amond, Cacao, Daiz, Rasin, Lakasei) VS Vegeta and Nappa (Saiyan Saga)

Neiz VS Maraikoh

Aka VS Android 17

Great Ape Goku VS Great Ape Vegeta (Saiyan saga, when Vegeta creates the false moon, Goku suddenly grew back his tail and transforms too; no tail cutting)

Mercenary Tao VS Great Ape Goku (DB First Episode, no tail cutting or grabbing)
Kibito was never shown to paralyze anyone. It was East Kaioshin who paralyzed Gohan at the tournament . Kibito was shown to have 2 skills. Being weak and healing. So even if Kaioshin paralyzes Dabura, he's the only on that could do damage to hi because Kibito's freaking useless. And Kaioshin can't fight and paralyze at the same time I don't think. Anyways..

1. If Goku can pull off a KKx20 and Kamehameha at the very start before any strain can take effect, he may have a chance, otherwise, Kibito wins.

2. Ginyu would switch bodies with Launch and then step on her.

3. I give it to Vegeta, but barely. Kibitoshin thought he could be of use alongside Goku, then was stopped by Elder Kaioshin after he states that it'd be useless. So I still have him around SSJ2 Level in power. I personally have him just as strong as Cell Games SSJ2 Gohan :lol: .

4. A Kamikaze Ghost damaged the likes of Super Buu. Guldo's molecular structure is disintegrated.

5. Coola beats them both even easier than Future Trunks did, even with teamwork on Freeza and Cold's part.

6. Hm....very interesting. Bido never transformed in the movie. And from what I saw, he was comparable to SSJ Future Trunks in power, if not just a little bit weaker. If he did transform, I'd say he'd rival Cell Games SSJ Goku in power. I give this to Bido, unless Kaioshin uses some weird magic.

7. So I'm guessing no Oozaru again? :lol: Vegeta wins, but barely. And unfortunately, Nappa wouldn't make it out alive. I say Nappa takes out I guess both of the little purple guys, and then is severely beaten by the remaining three. Then Vegeta steps in and fights against them 3 on 1, and even for a guy with a power level that eclipses his opponents', there is strength in numbers. In the en, everyone's dead except for Vegeta, who's wounded and has to deal with Tullece, who he had no chance of beating even if he was fresh.

8. Maraikoh at least put up a fight against Cell Games Base Goku, so the entire Coola's Armoured Squad has no chance IMO. BTW, I take back what I said about Olibu. I'll just ignore Yamcha beating actual people and just go with Olibu's fight with Paikuhan for reference, in which yes, Olibu would beat 16.

9. I honestly don't care for this special, as the power weighing is very weird for these Abo and Cado, and more importantly Aka. So I guess I'll give it to 17, but don't quote me on that.

10. The gaps would be the same as before, except now everyone's just really big and hairy. Vegeta takes this.

11. Mercenary Tao could probably beat Oozaru Goku, if he just dodges the big ape's attacks and lands a strong dodon ray or something. Idk :| DB questions are harder for me to answer than DBZ :lol: .
Super SaiyaJon wrote: -Great Ape Goku wins. Not only would Great Ape Goku's power level be over 4x as great (1000 for Great Ape Goku and 240 for Tao), but Mercenary Tao likely would be incapable of properly fighting a Great Ape with its huge size and weight and all.
Keep in mind, this is "First Episode of DB" Goku we're talking about here. You know, the one with only a power level of 10. So if Oozaru is a 10x boost, it still won't be anything Tao can't handle.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super SaiyaJon » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:57 pm

Darkron2151 wrote:
Super SaiyaJon wrote: -Great Ape Goku wins. Not only would Great Ape Goku's power level be over 4x as great (1000 for Great Ape Goku and 240 for Tao), but Mercenary Tao likely would be incapable of properly fighting a Great Ape with its huge size and weight and all.
Keep in mind, this is "First Episode of DB" Goku we're talking about here. You know, the one with only a power level of 10. So if Oozaru is a 10x boost, it still won't be anything Tao can't handle.
Oh, silly me :oops: . I accidentally put the multiplier as a hundred. So yes, Tao should win.

So I accidentally made the base to Great Ape multiplier the same as the base to SSJ2 multiplier :lol:
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:04 pm

Kibito was never shown to paralyze anyone. It was East Kaioshin who paralyzed Gohan at the tournament . Kibito was shown to have 2 skills. Being weak and healing. So even if Kaioshin paralyzes Dabura, he's the only on that could do damage to hi because Kibito's freaking useless. And Kaioshin can't fight and paralyze at the same time I don't think. Anyways..
Ohhh! WTF... my memory of that fight got messed up then. lol
Well then, now that my "imagined situation" is gone, the hidden question between the "East Kaioshin and Kibito VS Dabura (no spitting), Majin Spopovich and Yamu" has changed to a "Can Kibito actually damage the paralyzed Dabura to the point of death using ki attacks?"

Otherwise, with creativity, since Spopovich and Yamu are around. If I were East Kaioshin, I would first paralyze Dabura, and then tell Kibito to kill Spopovich and Yamu without ki blasting them. East Kaioshin can read minds so he would know what Spopovich and Yamu have, their ki extracting device. If Kibito can't kill Dabura with Ki blasts... Kibito could just take the closest weapon around-- that ki extracting device that Spopovich and Yamu carried around. Kibito will then use that device to stab Dabura in the gut and drain him of all his ki. Kibito will then finish off Dabura or if the fucker really can't, East Kaioshin will stop the paralysis magic and finish off the severely weakened Dabura himself.

I just realized I answered my own question. LOL!! :lol:
The gaps would be the same as before, except now everyone's just really big and hairy. Vegeta takes this.
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A Kamikaze Ghost damaged the likes of Super Buu. Guldo's molecular structure is disintegrated.
This was actually a trick question. I just wondered who could get it first. The Kamikazee Ghost touches Guldo and being in character, goes "Boo!" or something. Guldo uses time stop and runs away, without even knowing that the ghost can self destruct. If the blast is huge enough though, it could kill Guldo, or at least make him deaf for his entire life.
Ginyu would switch bodies with Launch and then step on her
Not if the frog is mute, like in the given stipulation. In the anime, Frog Ginyu was only able to say "Change body" because he had a translator thingy attached to him, made by Bulma. So it suggests that the anime Frog Ginyu can still use ki. So does Blonde Launch stand a chance against a Frog that has full control of it's ki?
Maraikoh at least put up a fight against Cell Games Base Goku, so the entire Coola's Armoured Squad has no chance IMO. BTW, I take back what I said about Olibu. I'll just ignore Yamcha beating actual people and just go with Olibu's fight with Paikuhan for reference, in which yes, Olibu would beat 16.
Oh! You meant my previous match up of MUSCLE HEAD 4-WAY FREE FOR ALL: Android 16 VS Mystic Recoome VS Olibu VS Movie 8 LSSJ Broly, from a few days ago?
11. Mercenary Tao could probably beat Oozaru Goku, if he just dodges the big ape's attacks and lands a strong dodon ray or something. Idk :| DB questions are harder for me to answer than DBZ :lol: .
Yes, the deciding factor of his dodging would be if Tao could dodge Goku's hypothetical mouth beams. :o

Oh... and any more verdicts on the USSJ Future Trunks (pre-2nd day ROSAT) VS Cell Jr? Isn't USSJ, at that point in the series, advantageous to use up until you're fighting someone of suppressed Perfect Cell's level, something a Cell Jr is below of?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Galan007 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:09 pm

Super SaiyaJon wrote:Adroid 17 could probably beat SSJ Goku (Jump Special).
#17 wouldn't stand a chance in hell against Buu-era SSJ Goku.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super SaiyaJon » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:18 pm

Galan007 wrote:
Super SaiyaJon wrote:Adroid 17 could probably beat SSJ Goku (Jump Special).
#17 wouldn't stand a chance in hell against Buu-era SSJ Goku.
Ok, that was a bad comparison. Sill, 17 should beat Aka anyway. 17 at least wouldnt be one-shotted by Buu Saga SSJ Goku.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Galan007 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:38 pm

Super SaiyaJon wrote:17 at least wouldnt be one-shotted by Buu Saga SSJ Goku.
Yes, he most definitely could be.

Heck, SSJ future Trunks casually one-shot-killed both future Androids--and Cell Games/Buu-era SSJ Goku>>>SSJ Future Trunks.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super SaiyaJon » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:00 pm

Galan007 wrote:
Super SaiyaJon wrote:17 at least wouldnt be one-shotted by Buu Saga SSJ Goku.
Yes, he most definitely could be.

Heck, SSJ future Trunks casually one-shot-killed both future Androids--and Cell Games/Buu-era SSJ Goku>>>SSJ Future Trunks.
Bear in mind, Future Androids << Present Androids. Despite this, I think I agree with you now.
Kakacarrottop wrote: That's the problem with the "Dragon Ball" fanbase, it's too divided. There's "FUNimation fanboys", "Kai fanboys", "Ocean fanboys", "Japanese fanboys", we need to stop attacking each other and realize we're all fans of the same thing.
Saiga wrote:Gandalf: Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them?

Goku: Yes, actually.

Gandalf: Oh. Neat.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:08 pm

Super SaiyaJon wrote:
Galan007 wrote:
Super SaiyaJon wrote:17 at least wouldnt be one-shotted by Buu Saga SSJ Goku.
Yes, he most definitely could be.

Heck, SSJ future Trunks casually one-shot-killed both future Androids--and Cell Games/Buu-era SSJ Goku>>>SSJ Future Trunks.
Bear in mind, Future Androids << Present Androids. Despite this, I think I agree with you now.
Future Androids were using half power the entire time they were toying with Gohan and later Trunks.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Michelle91 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:44 am

Kaioken X15 Goku vs. First Form Freeza.

So if Goku never got hurt during his battle with Ginyu, would Kaioken X15 be enough to take down Freeza's first form. If he can beat Freeza's first form with Kaioken X10-X15 then how far he can fight with Freeza before he transform into his 4th form.
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