Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Bullza]

Goten and Trunks most likely will have a cameo appearance in the new film.

That'd be great if that were the case, the less of them the better.

[Bullza]

So as for Goku fighting Frieza in base form, I wonder if it's because Goku longer needs to transform at all due to absorbing the power of the SSJ God into his body. All the power of the SSJ God but in his ordinary form. Like with the Mystic Gohan situation, maybe something he learns training with Whis.

Otherwise I don't see why he would be fighting him in base form.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Someone posted this on the 2ch thread:

Spoiler:

This chart perfectly shows the things I don't like about all the new animation. Everything in the bottom row looks so meticulously clean, polished and waxed as if they are all dripped in oil. They just glow all the time making it feel less detailed.

Just looks cheap.

Almost ever other rendition of the character art has the skin coloured darker with the shadows shaded on the farthest sides on their faces. Now they replaced that with this weird, oily white highlight across their cheeks, paled their skin and thinned their body outines so much. Its like the complete opposite of Row 1 - and row 6. This new art direction makes the whole thing look like a toy commercial. Everything is just too glisining and the faces look weird. There is literally no real emotion in the characters any more when they're angry. They just have their eyes midly open with their tiny mouths out.

It does look cheap. Even for Toei. I'm also not a fan of the weird pulsating effects they added to the screen shakes when Goku was shouting "Freeza". It looked unnatural. Its like they were trying to make the scene look "cool" without it actually presented in an awing way, I'm getting that rushed feeling again.

[dbzfan7]

Oh neither branch has me that interested, I could go on and on about how much I hate the current direction of everything. No point in bringing too much negativity into people's positive feelings.

Thats cool I can respect that, but do keep track of those DB topics @ SSMB. your a good source of DB information to have around there and it would be nice to have stuff crossposted from here to there, seeing how DB information flows through here first.

I'll return if I get some positive feelings, til then it's best I don't bother souring people. I got my own problems with this franchise, but at least there's salvation in plenty of things that keeps me happy here. Can't say the same over there, as of now, I don't have a bright side.

Goten and Trunks most likely will have a cameo appearance in the new film.

That'd be great if that were the case, the less of them the better.

Then they'll totally have Freeza forget it was Trunks who killed him. I think I'd be pretty pissed at the guy who killed me.

[Chuquita]

Re: Boom
That's almost as sad as the lawsuit that ended in the comic flushing a big chunk of it's characters away.
I haven't read the comic in years either, but I still feel sad that all these characters from my childhood are gone forever.

Re: base Gokû
I've been looking at that aura of his, I think it's possible he has ssjg-mode partly turned on.

[InfernalVegito]

Someone posted this on the 2ch thread:

Spoiler:

This chart perfectly shows the things I don't like about all the new animation. Everything in the bottom row looks so meticulously clean, polished and waxed as if they are all dripped in oil. They just glow all the time making it feel less detailed.

Just looks cheap.

Almost ever other rendition of the character art has the skin coloured darker with the shadows shaded on the farthest sides on their faces. Now they replaced that with this weird, oily white highlight across their cheeks, paled their skin and thinned their body outines so much. Its like the complete opposite of Row 1 - and row 6. :eh: This new art direction makes the whole thing look like a toy commercial. Everything is just too glisining and the faces look weird. There is literally no real emotion in the characters any more when they're angry. They just have their eyes midly open with their tiny mouths out.

It does look cheap. Even for Toei. I'm also not a fan of the weird pulsating effects they added to the screen shakes when Goku was shouting "Freeza". It looked unnatural. Its like they were trying to make the scene look "cool" without it actually presented in an awing way, I'm getting that rushed feeling again.

Yeah I agree completely. I know Dragon Ball's animation has always been cheap most of the time but the old look just, well, looked better to me. All this new stuff just looks so processed and bland, totally devoid of any soul to it.

[Hellspawn28]

Calling it now... Mr. Satan somehow ends up getting the credit for defeating Freeza.

It won't surprise me if that end up being true. People believe that he defeated Cell, Buu and most likely got credit for saving the Earth in GT for defeating the Shadow Dragons.

Calling it now... Mr. Satan somehow ends up getting the credit for defeating Freeza.

Well he will be the one to beat Freeza. He saved us from Cell and Majin Boo. After Freeza he'll beat the villain trifecta of DBZ.

He also met every main villain of DBZ now. He meet Vegeta, Cell, Buu and most likely Freeza now.

[Attitudefan]

The biggest problem for me in new DragonBall art is the shine in the hair... the can have highlights, like we've seen in the Broly films, and Bojack, but it was not three layers of shade with a light grey/white shine to it. Also, the spikes in their hair is too uniform most of the time.

Fix some of the colouring, line thickness, uniformity, and it would look much better. Much better.

[dbzfan7]

Calling it now... Mr. Satan somehow ends up getting the credit for defeating Freeza.

It won't surprise me if that end up being true. People believe that he defeated Cell, Buu and most likely got credit for saving the Earth in GT for defeating the Shadow Dragons.

Calling it now... Mr. Satan somehow ends up getting the credit for defeating Freeza.

Well he will be the one to beat Freeza. He saved us from Cell and Majin Boo. After Freeza he'll beat the villain trifecta of DBZ.

He also met every main villain of DBZ now. He meet Vegeta, Cell, Buu and most likely Freeza now.

The Villain Quadfecta.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Man, I knew this would happen soon. People are already calling this "Mystic Super saiyan Gohan", "He's stronger than Beerus and Whis now"........

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Man, I knew this would happen soon. People are already calling this "Mystic Super saiyan Gohan", "He's stronger than Beerus and Whis now"........

They've been doing that since GT.

You'd think they'd get this right. They just went through this issue with Battle of Gods. Though we'll just have to wait and see what happens with this in the final film, I guess. Maybe he's not using it to fight, or maybe they're doing it for "promotion" again and will recolor it later. :/

[SSJ God Gogeta]

They've been doing that since GT.

You'd think they'd get this right. They just went through this issue with Battle of Gods. Though we'll just have to wait and see what happens with this in the final film, I guess. Maybe he's not using it to fight, or maybe they're doing it for "promotion" again and will recolor it later. :/

We will see in due time.

[MasterVampire]

Man, I knew this would happen soon. People are already calling this "Mystic Super saiyan Gohan", "He's stronger than Beerus and Whis now"........

They've been doing that since GT.

You'd think they'd get this right. They just went through this issue with Battle of Gods. Though we'll just have to wait and see what happens with this in the final film, I guess. Maybe he's not using it to fight, or maybe they're doing it for "promotion" again and will recolor it later. :/

Yeah the Gohan thing is weird.

They corrected it for Battle of Gods but not this?

[Blade]

It's an issue that has been played back and forth in public so much now that it's hard to assume anything other than Gohan being a Super Saiyan in this new feature is nothing other than deliberate. It's hard to fathom how it could be overlooked again, and even if Toriyama happened to forget, one would assume that someone at Toei would at least mention the issue to him with regard to the re-colouring debacle in Battle of Gods.

I'm honestly of the thought that the Super Saiyan form is important for the Dragonball franchise by way of brand identification. Including Gohan as a Super Saiyan allows Bandai to sell action figures of him in both normal and transformed state, something which is more difficult to carry out visually with his 'ultimate' transformation. This is something which I think harks right back to GT, where characters would transform into Super Saiyan for mere seconds with no or little narrative purpose - barely justifying the celluloid it was animated on - just to create a flash of gold, that could be then translated into merchandise.

Dragonball Z in the public image is as much about an orange dogi, gold hair and a Kamehameha pose as it is about anything else. Visual affirmation of these tropes is part of the product and packaging.

[bleed0range]

Man, I knew this would happen soon. People are already calling this "Mystic Super saiyan Gohan", "He's stronger than Beerus and Whis now"........

They've been doing that since GT.

You'd think they'd get this right. They just went through this issue with Battle of Gods. Though we'll just have to wait and see what happens with this in the final film, I guess. Maybe he's not using it to fight, or maybe they're doing it for "promotion" again and will recolor it later. :/

Yeah the Gohan thing is weird.

They corrected it for Battle of Gods but not this?

Well, true. However, Gohan very clearly goes SSJ for the ritual which means he can turn SSJ whenever he likes apparently. I believe that his "mystic" power-up is essentially a power-up without the energy loss that comes with SSJ. When he turns Mystic, he gains an incredible power-up and he does not lose that energy over time. There is no "fatigue" like there is with SSJ. The old Kaioshin explains this when he says that transformations like that are not the right way of doing things. In other words, sure... he can turn SSJ but if he does it would be negligible. He'll only lose power over time until his energy is depleted. This is further shown when Goku has trouble powering up to SSJ3. Eventually he can't even do it anymore and can't even go SSJ. Gohan wouldn't have had that problem because of his new power-up.

I think Toriyama is headed in a direction that seems to suggest he is over the idea of SSJ transformations. It seems he wants to return Goku to being powerful at a base level without having to transform and perhaps that's why he is fighting Freeza that way. Maybe the SSJ God power-up has allowed him to be more powerful in his normal state. Which again would actually be better than a transformation.

WHY Gohan would CHOOSE to go SSJ is more the question. Maybe there's a scene where Freeza says he wants to see the SSJ and everyone turns SSJ, "You want to see a super saiayan? " Or maybe in his anger he can't control which he does. Mystic or SSJ.

[miguelnuva1]

Maybe their stealing a page from GT and Gohan lost his Ultimate power. It doesn't bother me one way or another anymore as Gohan not going beat anyone anyway.

[Saitou Hajime]

Is it just me or did it seem like Gohan doesn't have the Ultimate transformation anymore even before turns SSJ? He seemed to have the open eyes design again behind the glasses.

However, Gohan very clearly goes SSJ for the ritual which means he can turn SSJ whenever he likes apparently.

Well, of you look at it as BoG Ultimate Gohan being just a recolored SSJ Gohan, then he was pretty much SSJ the entire movie. They just let it go during the ritual because IMO all the golden auras meshed together and made editing difficult. Hell, they couldn't even remove that partial glow when Gohan first powers up to fight Beerus.

[bleed0range]

Is it just me or did it seem like Gohan doesn't have the Ultimate transformation anymore even before turns SSJ? He seemed to have the open eyes design again behind the glasses.

However, Gohan very clearly goes SSJ for the ritual which means he can turn SSJ whenever he likes apparently.

Well, of you look at it as BoG Ultimate Gohan being just a recolored SSJ Gohan, then he was pretty much SSJ the entire movie. They just let it go during the ritual because IMO all the golden auras meshed together and made editing difficult. Hell, they couldn't even remove that partial glow when Gohan first powers up to fight Beerus.

Maybe. It doesn't really bother me one way or another. I never actually liked the Ultimate Gohan look/power-up all that much anyway. So I'm fine with it. But if they're just recoloring this again for the trailer or something that's a pretty dumb and dishonest way to advertise the movie.

[Tsufuru]

i think I'm gonna enjoy the movie.
i like how Freeza's soldiers gonna invade earth and even roshi is gonna fight.

and i love frieza as a villian.

[Zenkashuu]

I really dislike the new art style, why did they change it so much? Look at these faces...damn look at that Goku.