Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:35 pm

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That's my only hope too. I rather believe that Freeza will not appear once again to have a second death sooner or later, but something which couldn't have occured with him. Maybe a gate to other worlds/realities.
I'm pretty much on the train of he gets killed in this movie again, or if he survives he better lead to someone bigger than him....otherwise I can't see him sticking around.


As for the poster thing, it could mean that Goku and Vegeta are now equal....but honestly it more likely means they both share big roles. I mean the fusion reborn poster has Goku and Vegeta seemingly equal as they do fusion, but in reality the movie states Goku is stronger still.
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Post by JamesOwnz » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:12 pm

I think he'll be killed in the movie for sure, do you really see him surviving and being all "Well you have may have won this round Goku but i'll be bacccck!" while shaking his fist angrily?

As for new Dragon Ball films after this... I would like that obviously but i'm don't think it would happen... certainly wouldn't want it if it was just going to be Freeza all the time

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:43 pm

JamesOwnz wrote:I think he'll be killed in the movie for sure, do you really see him surviving and being all "Well you have may have won this round Goku but i'll be bacccck!" while shaking his fist angrily?
Knowing Toriyama, I think Freeza will become immortal by using the second wish and be lock away because he's has became too powerful or he becomes immortal and ends up escaping away. I think killing him off would be too predictable and BOG did have Goku lost to Beerus instead of having Goku winning.
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Post by dbgtFO » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:44 pm

Chuquita wrote:I still want to know what about this movie's script impressed Torishima. And I'm still curious about the usage of the little-used in DB "despair/zetsubou". Makes me think there's still more to all this we don't know yet.
I agree, the trailer is only scraping the tip of the iceberg. There's bound to be something more insidious going on.

I have resigned myself to expecting Vegeta will the main focus. Goku and the others will try fighting Freeza, but Vegeta will go through some personal crisis of some sort, because of Freeza and co. having done something incredibly heinous(still can't get alternate reality with no Bulma, Bra and Trunks out of my head, lol).
He'll most likely be the last man standing after Goku has failed to defeat Freeza and is lying on the ground, beaten.
Toriyama may have said nothing was decided yet, but he was just bullshitting, he obviously didn't want to give everything away.
That's what I think.
I'd still prefer Freeza to become a good guy to tie in with Neko Majin Z though :lol:

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Post by EmmaWinters » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:46 pm

dbgtFO wrote:I'd still prefer Freeza to become a good guy to tie in with Neko Majin Z though :lol:
A bit off-topic, but how is Neko Majin, anyway? Worth reading?
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Post by dbgtFO » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:51 pm

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dbgtFO wrote:I'd still prefer Freeza to become a good guy to tie in with Neko Majin Z though :lol:
A bit off-topic, but how is Neko Majin, anyway? Worth reading?
It was fun, when I read it 10 years back, when Daizex hosted the chapters. Definitely worth it, if you'd like to read a comic, that doesn't take itself, nor Dragon Ball too seriosly.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:55 pm

I still think having Freeza becoming good is a horrible idea.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:03 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I still think having Freeza becoming good is a horrible idea.
It is. Like I said earlier, I lean towards him replacing Beerus.
Making Freeza a God of Destruction lets him keep his pride & still hate the Saiyans.
Plus, he'd probably enjoy it. A twist like that would be very Toriyama.
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Post by The Tori-bot » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:08 pm

Anything other than Freeza being taken care of/killed again at the end of the movie had never occurred to me before, but I'm starting to like the "Freeza becomes the new God of Destruction" idea.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:08 pm

I still think having Freeza come back is a terrible idea.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:10 pm

Yeah, should have just left him be.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:18 pm

The Tori-bot wrote:Anything other than Freeza being taken care of/killed again at the end of the movie had never occurred to me before, but I'm starting to like the "Freeza becomes the new God of Destruction" idea.
It could still happen, but I'd be pretty surprised (and more than a little disappointed)
if we fall back into the Bad Guy Arrives Good Guys Kill Him formula.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:21 pm

The Tori-bot wrote:Anything other than Freeza being taken care of/killed again at the end of the movie had never occurred to me before, but I like the"Freeza becomes the new God of Destruction" idea.
I think Freeza becoming the new God of Destruction is likely since they mention that he throws things off balance. If he becomes too powerful as a god then they could steal him away or put a spell on him that he can be lock up for a long time. I do hope Beerus will be wish back if he dies.
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Post by MagicBox » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:22 pm

The "Freeza becoming the new God of Destruction" thing is a really interesting idea! I don't think that's something I'd want (At this point, I think Freeza is too irredeemable to make something like that work), and it kinda messes with my "history is rewritten and then put back to normal" idea, but it's still a really cool thing to speculate. That's something I could kinda see Toriyama doing depending on the story he's trying to tell with this film.
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Post by GeeRod » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:36 pm

Hey guys, you think after ROF we're getting another movie? This way we complete a trilogy. Or maybe even more than three?
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Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:42 pm

GeeRod wrote:Hey guys, you think after ROF we're getting another movie? This way we complete a trilogy. Or maybe even more than three?
Anything's possible - Toriyama seems quite content to continue in this format, at least for the time being, he does enjoy writing stories, and drawing the characters. The fact he doesn't have to draw everything like writing weekly manga means he's much more content.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:43 pm

As long if they make money and they keep on having Toriyama coming out then I think more movies are welcome. Revival of F will likely do well at the box office and I think another movie in 2017 is likely.
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Post by GogesusSSG » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:46 pm

Freeza being offered or actually taking on the role of 'God of destruction' is probably the easiest way to involve Beerus especially if he doesn't want to be replaced. If Beerus does however, agree to Freeza having that role then there's also the likelihood of him overdoing it and blowing up too many worlds; which wouldn't be too hard since Beerus spends more time asleep than he does awake.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:56 pm

I don't see Frieza wanting to take the role of God of Destruction, or at the very least follow the "job description" of one holding that title. Frieza never cared about blowing up worlds; he only wished to rule them and live the fine life of a king.
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Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:07 pm

I'm feeling somewhat conflicted about the potential of Vegeta playing the main role here. The thing is, he is one of my favorite characters, but I will always see him as the reluctant helper so to speak - which is what I like about him.
In Battle of Gods, his character received a lot of development/changes, and perhaps Toriyama did this on purpose, to prepare him for his ultimate redemption - Freezer. There would be nothing better than for him to finally defeat the tyrant who killed his father, and destroyed his home planet.
But, would I actually want this to happen?.
Vegeta's inability to defeat Freezer, was one of his best moments, and by the end of the manga, he acknowledges what was obvious anyway - that Goku was better than him.

So, I really find it difficult to believe that Vegeta will leap in to save the day after Goku is beaten unconscious by Freezer. Vegeta will of course fight Freezer, as I believe Beerus will too.
Goku's mercy he gave Freezer nearly got everyone on earth killed, and if it weren't for Trunks intervention, could have proven very costly a decision.
Could this be Toriyama's way of showing where pure evil is concerned, Goku will no longer show mercy? and this time - in front of an audience - mainly Beerus, who was shocked to discover Goku had been able to defeat Freezer, will now see it with his own two eyes?.

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