Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[miguelnuva1]

Bojack is generic at best in my opinion. He could have been a awesome villain if he was not so boring. He wants to take over the Earth and that's pretty much it. The whole backstory with him and King Kai was hardly explain since we know that he steal away inside of some star that is link with King Kai's Planet. I think the whole space pirate gang idea could be great if the writers put more effort into the character development. Bojack never offer anything new that we haven't seen before since he transforms into a big buff up form that we seen a million times before (Garlic Jr, Freeza, Super 13 and Broli). I don't see any point on doing a special on a character who was never that interesting to be begin with.

All movie villains are pretty generic though, there's just not enough time to flesh out enough backstory and give the movie enough action.

Hirudegarn and Beerus are not generic.

Hildegarn is the Godzilla of DBZ. His master Hoi is the most generic of them all-Only out to commit chaos for the sake of chaos. Bills is a spoiled brat of a God who likes to fight.

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Godzilla with Hildegarn's power level would have killed the Z warriors.

[Regarder]

(even though I find it a little odd that Bojack didn't even grimace at his chest getting slashed -high pain tolerance can only go so far).

This is the compression I'm talking about. All the drama is flattened out for the sake of getting through it quickly, but because it also removes the interest, it ironically makes it feel even longer.

In a "real" manga, moments like that where you think the tide might be changed would be emphasized. There'd be the slash, loads of blood flying out, and Bojack grimacing a panel after. Then there might be the other guy (I've even forgot his name...) with a victorious expression on his face, but then suddenly Bojack's head snaps up and he starts grinning with an expression that says by itself; "Hah! That hurt a bit, but this is nothing really! Now let me really show you something!". The other guy's expression would change to shock because he realized his powerful dead-on attack did nothing, THEN Bojack would attack and send him flying (probably a whole page for Bojack's attack; emphasis!). Action cliche like this is cliche'd for a reason; because it works, and Toriyama and others use variations of this over and over again. It's interesting to twist it up, of course, but de-emphasizing things doesn't exactly achieve that in a pleasing way.

This way would probably use up 2 or even 3 pages though, so here things are compressed by comparison. It's sort of a compromise between pissing off fans who want things to move forwards, and generating actual tension and utilizing dramatic beats and pacing. Then again, the fight could be over quicker if you just use one or two moments like above as the whole fight, and didn't drag it out. The point is that Bojack is really strong and the others can't match him.

Of course, the whole thing is compounded by the fact that even if the fight does pace moments well, there's no reason to care without character development, and that's also something a certain segment of the fan base would howl about. "GET TO THE FIGHTS!" they cry at Salagir and his filler artists/writers, and then when it gets to the fights... "THIS IS BORING!"

[DNA]

To me multiverse seems to be like a bad drug to a lot of people. It looks nice and promising, but we quickly realize that it's just not good enough. The pacing, the way it's delivered, just plain everything. Yet, most people say they can quit anytime and that they are done with it but they always come back to it, is it curiosity? I mean, I'm to blame as well, I can't deny.

[coola]

[ParkerAL]

Hmm, could the author be making a reference to Sinbad's sword blast attack in Magi?

[SSJ God Gogeta]

I see no problem here.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Goku: So evil!

(if you don't get the joke watch TeamFourStar's Tree of Might)

[Fionordequester]

Ha! Love how all their hair looks like it got cut by a weed whacker, like GT Vegeta's hair looked !

[dbzfan7]

To me multiverse seems to be like a bad drug to a lot of people. It looks nice and promising, but we quickly realize that it's just not good enough. The pacing, the way it's delivered, just plain everything. Yet, most people say they can quit anytime and that they are done with it but they always come back to it, is it curiosity? I mean, I'm to blame as well, I can't deny.

Because of the fan service and when the art is actually good. That's why. If it was all drawn like that first Bojack Special, I bet most people would leave or abandon DBM. The story is so slow I don't give a fuck about it no more. The specials are so dumb I ignore them, and then check them out once they're done for a cheap laugh at how stupid and boring they usually are. It's the fan service, Gogeta Jr's (now Asura's) art style which is really good, A lot of matches people wanted to see, as well as how the banter would go if they happened. I guess some people jump on the "It's a better sequel than GT" or something like that as a reason too.

[rereboy]

Because of the fan service and when the art is actually good. That's why. If it was all drawn like that first Bojack Special, I bet most people would leave or abandon DBM. The story is so slow I don't give a fuck about it no more. The specials are so dumb I ignore them, and then check them out once they're done for a cheap laugh at how stupid and boring they usually are. It's the fan service, Gogeta Jr's (now Asura's) art style which is really good, A lot of matches people wanted to see, as well as how the banter would go if they happened. I guess some people jump on the "It's a better sequel than GT" or something like that as a reason too.

Actually, most people probably just like that its pretty honest about what it is... A fun tournament without delusions of grandeur, legitimacy or intent to be an actual possible continuation to Dragon Ball, which uses a logical setting for all these fights and interactions. The whole thing feels more like an homage or love letter to the series than anything else.

[TonyTheTiger]

A fun tournament without delusions of grandeur, legitimacy or intent to be an actual possible continuation to Dragon Ball.

But the website says otherwise.

What is DBM ?
Dragon Ball Multiverse (DBM) is a free online comic, made by two fans, Gogeta Jr and Salagir. It's the sequel to DBZ.

Universe 18: DBZ
Our DB/DBZ we know, 10 years later.

I'm of the opinion that the core premise of DBM as a continuation of Dragon Ball is perfectly fine. But the comic just does things now and then that fudges its own premise and ends up looking like a weird Frankenstein mix of both the original Dragon Ball and fanfiction rewrites of it.

[King Bardock]

[SSJ God Gogeta]

I HAVE THE POWER!!!

[rereboy]

A fun tournament without delusions of grandeur, legitimacy or intent to be an actual possible continuation to Dragon Ball.

But the website says otherwise.

What is DBM ?
Dragon Ball Multiverse (DBM) is a free online comic, made by two fans, Gogeta Jr and Salagir. It's the sequel to DBZ.

Its a sequel in terms of, time-wise, the plot happening after the events of the manga. However, its feel is not actually of a real sequel. Like I said, it feels more like a celebration of Dragon Ball, an homage, than anything else. Its more like an opportunity to revisit old characters and some new situations that makes sense in-universe, and its shows that the comic itself is aware of it.

[coola]

[Kaboom]

Each special chapter featuring Bojack has progressively worse art than the last. I'd bet a dollar the next one is just stick figures.

[RandomGuy96]

Still boring.

[BlazingBarrrager]

I honestly still don't get why I've stuck with this fan manga for so long. Sure the art for the comic (specials not included) is good and I like the multiverse idea, but the plot seems so focused on U16 it feels like it's more fanboish than anything. I also hate how Salagir made some characters stupidly overpowered (I'm looking at you U16 Bra) to the point of being poorly done. Oh, and how they made Super Saiyan 3 even more impractical? Reeeeeeally hit a nerve. Also, is it true Salagir basically ignores the official guidebooks and such in favor of his own fanboy point of view? :/

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Also, is it true Salagir basically ignores the official guidebooks and such in favor of his own fanboy point of view? :/

Yes. He only follows the manga, and takes elements from the anime.

[RandomGuy96]

Also, is it true Salagir basically ignores the official guidebooks and such in favor of his own fanboy point of view? :/

Yes. He only follows the manga, and takes elements from the anime.

No, he only follows parts of the manga + whatever fan fiction he feels like inserting.