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Since Cell "turned" Super Saiyan 2 (Super Perfect Cell) because of his saiyan cells, i was wondering if he could get a power up if he stares at the full moon... i don't know if Cell's tail would work as a saiyan tail but if so, Would Super Perfect Cell turn Oozaru (or something similar) or just get the x10 power up?
Cell's tail is not a Saiyan tail. It was designed to absorb biological beings, and assimilate 17&18.
There's nothing to indicate that any traits of the Saiyan tail were incorporated into his own.
Does the fact that it's not a "Saiyan" tail really matter though? Cell's tail may be very different in appearance and function, but the only important factor about Saiyan tails for an Ozaru transformation is a special gland that activates when Bruits Waves are absorbed through the eyes.
Nothing says that said gland isn't inside his tail and able to be activated. So, while I may not like the idea personally, if someone wants to power up Cell as an Ozaru, they aren't really contradicting anything.
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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Does the fact that it's not a "Saiyan" tail really matter though? ... Nothing says that said gland isn't inside his tail and able to be activated.
Nothing says that it doesn't make ice cream, either. Anything is technically possible, but that doesn't make all assertions equally valid.
It can make ice cream. Piccolo has a clothes beam and that same beam can even create a forged item that takes a blacksmith to make, a sword. Ice cream doesn't seem impossible. Imagine if Piccolo made a boutique full of designer clothes made by his clothes beam. Korin hands out fliers. Popo is the cashier. Dende is customer service.
Angelus wrote:It can make ice cream. Piccolo has a clothes beam and that same beam can even create a forged item that takes a blacksmith to make, a sword. Ice cream doesn't seem impossible. Imagine if Piccolo made a boutique full of designer clothes made by his clothes beam. Karin hands out fliers. Popo is the cashier. Dende is customer service.
Well it's true, though the possibilities are endless with the clothes beam, as I also said in the versus thread, the characters lack that imagination
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Does the fact that it's not a "Saiyan" tail really matter though? ... Nothing says that said gland isn't inside his tail and able to be activated.
Nothing says that it doesn't make ice cream, either. Anything is technically possible, but that doesn't make all assertions equally valid.
I don't really get the point of your reply. Of course its obvious not all of them would be equally valid, but there's a huge difference between using a bit of logic to assume Cell could become an Ozaru if someone wanted him to (because he has Saiyan DNA and uses other Saiyan transformations), and suggesting something like his tail produces ice cream on demand for no apparently mentioned reason.
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If he did get some kind of powerup, I don't think he'd turn into an ape; he doesn't even have hair, so why would he get fur?
It's fun to imagine that instead he'd mutate into some giant bug monster, some special version that befits his way of using Saiyan genes, but really there's no indication that his Saiyan genes would allow him to have any transformation at all without the furry tail, since Oozaru is based on that. Cell has his tail retracted, and would it work in that way, anyway? He certainly seems to be able to mirror Super Saiyan, but who knows about Oozaru? It's fun to think about, and would be good in a fanfic (as long as it isn't just an ape), but there's no evidence either way.
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I would have to agree with the "if he did transform he probably wouldn't turn into a big hairy ape, more like a giant bug monster" idea. He doesn't sprout golden hair for his Super Saiyan-equivalent forms, so I doubt he'd sprout brown hair for his Oozaru-equivalent form either.
Nothing says that it doesn't make ice cream, either. Anything is technically possible, but that doesn't make all assertions equally valid.
Uh... one big difference here: it's an established fact in the Dragonball universe that Saiyans (or part-Saiyans) with tails transform when they look at the full moon. Plus, the whole concept of Cell is that he has the abilities of all those whose DNA he was made from--which would include all of the Saiyan transformations. It's implied that Cell has his own version of Super Saiyan forms (and made really clear in the case of the "bulked-up" forms and a Super Saiyan 2 equivalent complete with the same lightning!), despite not even being half-Saiyan, so why not Oozaru too?
But ice-cream-dispenser tails? What?? You can't seriously think that Oozaru Cell is on the same level of absurdity as that.
His tail can make miniature versions of himself. Why not delicious ice cream?
His tail is completely different, but it might be the same in some unseen way. Why not Ōzaru Cell?
This is another reason I love DragonBall. Toriyama's writing leaves so many avenues for fan creation. Me personally, I wouldn't doubt Cell might be able to do it, though knowing Cell he'd probably not desire the form if only cause it goes against his "perfection. Now what Broli would turn into...THAT'S a scary one.
There's nothing wrong with fan interpretations. It can lead to all kinds of ideas.
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