Would a CW pre-Z show work?

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:22 am

CW has been producing some of the best TV superhero shows so far which include Arrow, Flash and others (Supernatural) plus a new one is rumoured to be having a spin-off (Brandon Routh's own A.T.O.M series) so given the opportunity I think they'd do a great job but I guess some people here would bring up the issue if they made Goku a White, Black character, Mexican or who knows when he's really from outerspace so he isn't Asian/Japanese anyway.

Chichi could possibly be Black (CW likes to have mixed couples) but don't think of the skin colour as an issue because if the actress who'd take on the role did it flawlessly then there'd be nothing but praise. Think of Iris from Flash (there were two instances when she was annoying: 1) Kept posting about the Flash & Metahumans on her blog, 2) Couldn't see Barry loves her).

Noel Clarke is 39 years old but Andrew Garfield is 31 and no one couldn't tell he was that old when he played Spidey on TASM1/TASM2 so it's entirely possible given that they still look young as well as make up is there to be used.

garnetjester · Post by **garnetjester** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:40 am

I'd rather they left Dragon ball alone to be honest. I think the only way a live action DB show would work would probably be character assasination because american TV shows like their heroes dark and moody and Goku is neither, especially not in DB. At least in Z you have the lots of battles and killing, but DB was kind of light hearted, even though some parts got serious (namely Piccolo Daimaoh).

MarCas92 · Post by **MarCas92** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:50 am

I just...what? I'm sorry but this seems completely unnecessary. Why does Chi-Chi need to be black? It doesn't enrich her character in anyway. It's just an unnecessary change. I do agree about the Goku thing though, he really could be any non dark skinned nationality. Also, I've been a big comic book reader since I was 10 years old. Dennis O' Neil's "Green Lantern/Green Arrow" I feel is one of the finest comic book runs of all-time. Green Arrow is one of my favorite DC Heroes. Obviously, I can't watch the show without having a bias as to how well it represents the characters and stories. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a horrible show, but as an adaptation of the Green Arrow comics or even as a faithful representation of the Green Arrow character, I feel it fails at every level. Sure, it works well on it's own merits, but like I said, I have a bias. It's the same with the Flash. With all that being said, the CW would absolutely BUTCHER anything resembling DB. Arrow and Flash clearly show that it's more important to cater to what's popular than to what the source material intended. Also, if history has taught us anything is that America can't adapt Dragon Ball properly (i.e. FUNI, DB: Evolution, DBZ: Light of Hope, American developed games). Sure, Kai works, but how long did that take FUNI? Also, we already have a pre-z show. It's called Dragon Ball. I'm sorry but everything about this idea just seems horrible to me.

Cure Dragon 255 · Post by **Cure Dragon 255** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:12 am

I loved that they aired DBZKai for a while. I know they had many AWFULLY TERRIBLE edits. But it DID introduce a lot of Kids to DB. I think that's the best thing to come out of DBKai actually.

Jackal puFF · Post by **Jackal puFF** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:14 am

I think a show about Jaco could work perfectly.

Chronic_mcduffin · Post by **Chronic_mcduffin** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:55 pm

Jackal puFF wrote:I think a show about Jaco could work perfectly.

I'd rather have an OVA type deal for Jaco.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:15 pm

I think a live action America TV show can work if it's based around DBZ and they would need a good budget for it. DBE had terrible effects for a 40 million budget movie and I can't see a TV show with a smaller budget doing any better.

Chronic_mcduffin · Post by **Chronic_mcduffin** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:18 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think a live action America TV show can work if it's based around DBZ and they would need a good budget for it. DBE had terrible effects for a 40 million budget movie and I can't see a TV show with a smaller budget doing any better.

The unfortunate part is that an American TV station wouldn't put down enough money to do the series justice. It's too risky.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:43 pm

I think Japan can do a live action TV series but most people always seem to hate on Japanese special effects. I'm a huge fan of suits, so I'm happy that Japan still uses suits for most of their monsters and other characters. Japanese can make bad special effects by their standers but I seen decent practical effects in Japanese live action shows today. I have a good suspension of disbelief, I can enjoy anything as long if it's good.

swimtrunks · Post by **swimtrunks** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:30 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote: I guess some people here would bring up the issue if they made Goku a White, Black character, Mexican or who knows when he's really from outerspace so he isn't Asian/Japanese anyway.

Chichi could possibly be Black (CW likes to have mixed couples) but don't think of the skin colour as an issue because if the actress who'd take on the role did it flawlessly then there'd be nothing but praise. Think of Iris from Flash (there were two instances when she was annoying: 1) Kept posting about the Flash & Metahumans on her blog, 2) Couldn't see Barry loves her).

Superman is also an alien. That doesn't stop them from casting nothing but white guys to play him. Why do you have a problem with an Asian playing Goku but suggest they make Chichi black when she's clearly supposed to be an Asian woman? Also no, the CW should be the last channel to make a Dragon Ball series. Unless you want to see the same love triangle, secret identity, teenage angst tropes play out for the umpteenth time like they have in Arrow, The Flash, and Smallville ten years before. If you wanna see what a CW Dragon Ball series would look like, just watch Dragon Ball: Evolution.

MarCas92 wrote: I do agree about the Goku thing though, he really could be any non dark skinned nationality.

You agree that the person's race playing Goku shouldn't matter but then go on to say that he can be played by any non dark skinned nationality. Why does Goku need to be played by a non dark skinned person? Because the animated character's skin is light? Well that animated character also has black hair and dark eyes yet he was played by a guy with brown hair and blue eyes in the live-action movie. If the person playing Goku should have the same skin tone, why not everything else? Weird, animated Yamcha & Chichi both resemble animated Goku but the only one who wasn't Asian in the live action movie was Goku. Gee, I wonder why?

Superman, Batman, Spider-man, etc... and now you all want to be manga/anime heroes as well. Enough already. White guys have enough super-heroes. The least you all could do is let Asians play the ones they created themselves.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:49 pm

People act like Goku being Asian would make thing a million times better

. There are Asian actors who sucked at acting too you know. Dragon Ball Evolution is not going to be a better movie if they got a Asian actor for the movie since everyone else in that movie sucked at acting and had a poorly written story.

Kid Buu · Post by **Kid Buu** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:57 pm

DB 90210?

Make it happen!

UpFromTheSkies · Post by **UpFromTheSkies** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:19 am

IMO, the only way a live action Dragon Ball would work is if it didn't take itself seriously, and was done in the same spirit as Journey to the West: Conquering the Demons.

Kakacarrottop · Post by **Kakacarrottop** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:03 am

If the right amount of money and time was put into it, then yes, but i could only see the really early stuff working as it is somewhat realistic and not too out there. DB Evolution showed that a big-budget Hollywood film can't even portray the later part of the original Dragon Ball anime properly

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