Vegeta Appreciation thread

[ABED]

I don't think character development automatically makes one character better than another, but Vegeta's was damn good. While him giving his life to save his family felt like a great ending, I don't think his arc was complete until he was able to fully admit to himself that Goku was better than him without reservation and without insecurity. The only thing I would've changed was Vegeta wouldn't have been brought back with the final wish. There's too many dead bodies in his wake for him to be a "good guy". Him going to the afterlife and being okay with it would've made a nice ending.

and I just do NOT buy his so-called development. More importantly, the characters around him all look worse for letting him live after all the shit he pulls. For helping Cell, if nothing else.

What don't you buy about his development? It's not like Goku and the others haven't let a villain live (e.g. Piccolo).

[godku23]

I don't like how everyone always holds the cell thing over Vegeta's head. It's just in his nature to fight and try to defeat the most powerful opponent he can. Its like getting mad at a dog for barking.

[ABED]

The difference the dog doesn't have a choice, it's how it communicates. Vegeta has a choice to not risk the end of the world.

[godku23]

The thing is though, with saiyans their thirst for battle drives them, Vegeta not letting Cell transform would go against what his mind is telling him, like a human's sense of self-preservation.

[ABED]

The thing is though, with saiyans their thirst for battle drives them, Vegeta not letting Cell transform would go against what his mind is telling him, like a human's sense of self-preservation.

Thirst for battle is one thing, but that's not the same thing as being evil. Self preservation is once again a choice, it's not an instinct.

[mAcChaos]

The thing is though, with saiyans their thirst for battle drives them, Vegeta not letting Cell transform would go against what his mind is telling him, like a human's sense of self-preservation.

This is more like being on a diet and deciding to break it and eat a huge chocolate cake.

[Saiga]

And the cake is made of Earth being doomed.

[dbzfan7]

He is a great character that I can't imagine the series without. He pretty much is THE RIVAL. The guy I'd think that shonen rivals try to be. Goku and Vegeta are one of the biggest rival duo's in history. In Shonen they probably are the top rival pair.

Personally he was great throughout his run...til Cell. Though thankfully he wasn't abysmal as he got his ass kicked so bad, it made seeing it feel so good. His smug self having his head stomped into humble pie is some of the most pleasuring moments when he gets overly cocky and "I'm the strongest/prince blah blah blah". Though once again in Boo and beyond he becomes somewhat of a grumpy hero. I like post Vegeta and how he'll put aside his pride to protect his family and home. I think he makes a good rival to Goku.....but I don't really want him being anything else. I'd like him to be Goku's equal or at least real close to his level...but beyond that....I'm with the people who say he shouldn't get his so called "Comeuppance" on Freeza. He pretty much deserved everything Freeza did to him anyways, and he was pretty cold even by Saiyan standards. If Freeza wasn't being a tyrant, then Vegeta would have been the tyrant if he had the power. So I don't really find it comeuppance unless for some reason Vegeta's family becomes a center of conflict.

[sangofe]

Vegeta, along with Gotenks, has always been my favorite characters. For Vegeta, it has to do with his cockyness, and maybe most of all, Eric Legrand, his french voice actor, along with Ryo Horikawa. They're both amazing playing him.

[Kid Buu]

Yeah, Ryo Horikawa is really good at bringing out his smug demeanor.

[Kakacarrottop]

Yeah, Ryo Horikawa is really good at bringing out his smug demeanor.

He made him sound pretty cool too, but in a calm, relaxed sort of way, in contrast to Sabat's grumpy medieval roidhead take on Vegeta. He's probably one of the only Japanese VAs a fair few of the English dub fans seem too appreciate.

[Kid Buu]

He's indeed awesome. I haven't seen him in much else outside of Saint Seiya. I know he played a character in Maison Ikkoku but I've only read the comic for that.

[ABED]

Yeah, Ryo Horikawa is really good at bringing out his smug demeanor.

He made him sound pretty cool too, but in a calm, relaxed sort of way, in contrast to Sabat's grumpy medieval roidhead take on Vegeta. He's probably one of the only Japanese VAs a fair few of the English dub fans seem too appreciate.

I don't think that's a fair assessment of Sabat's performance. When he made the role more his own and dropped the Drummond imitation, it became calmer and more relaxed. Plus, I don't think Sabat's interpretation isn't without justification. Vegeta is far from always being cool, calm, and relaxed.

[TKA]

Sabat's interpretation is more "badass warrior from a feral species," whereas the Japanese VA's is "holier-than-thou prince."

Personally, Sabat is the only Vegeta I can stomach. I dread the day he can no longer do the voice.

[ABED]

Sabat's interpretation is more "badass warrior from a feral species," whereas the Japanese VA's is "holier-than-thou prince."

Personally, Sabat is the only Vegeta I can stomach. I dread the day he can no longer do the voice.

Wait, you don't like Horikawa?

[Tatakae!!Ramenman]

Other than sounding too old to be Vegeta, the Big Green dub voice actor(for movie 7 onward, not movie 6) sounded really good to me. He sounded a little cocky but not as aggressive as Sabat's since he wasn't making his voice so scratchy. Does anybody else think the Big Green dub did a good job with Vegeta?

[Kakacarrottop]

Other than sounding too old to be Vegeta, the Big Green dub voice actor(for movie 7 onward, not movie 6) sounded really good to me. He sounded a little cocky but not as aggressive as Sabat's since he wasn't making his voice so scratchy. Does anybody else think the Big Green dub did a good job with Vegeta?

Well they did a good job since they made me laugh the hardest i have in a long time. Honestly i have no problem with Vegeta having a less deep voice than he does in the FUNi dub, but that guy that voices him in the Big Green dub (i think he voiced like half the characters) sounds far too old and frail. Just look at these clips for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xArwbYkq_3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a8fFGcL3K4
Seriously he sounds like a frail old Adam West impersonator or something. Vegeta's other two VAs in the Big Green dub (one sounded like a stereotypical musclebound idiot and the other was obviously a woman using a boy voice) were just as miscast as the old guy.

[TKA]

Big Green Vegeta is hilarious.

That old guy voices 90% of the cast

Sabat's interpretation is more "badass warrior from a feral species," whereas the Japanese VA's is "holier-than-thou prince."

Personally, Sabat is the only Vegeta I can stomach. I dread the day he can no longer do the voice.

Wait, you don't like Horikawa?

I don't like any of the Japanese voices.

[FortuneSSJ]

His great character development is one of the most beautiful things in Buu arc.
His role in BOG was better than any other movie. Hope he has a even better role in ROF.

[Eire]

Oh Vegeta, Price of all three/eight/six Sayians...you lose to Goku, but you won fangirl's hearts.
Is it just my impression or is Vegeta really more popular among fangirls than fanboys? If so, Toriyama unknowingly discovered the key to female heart.
You know, back when I used to read fanfics I spotted a pattern appearing in nearly every fandom. Big Bad/Anti-villian was paired with OC/heroine who was the only one who could soften his heart. Of course for everyone else the hero was still a curel jerk and never said it out loud, but everyone saw that for this one he is ready to put everything aside including his goals and pride. Living big atomic bomb to whom just the heroine has the key...
And in this case author made it canon. I suuported Vegeta and Bulma from my whole heart since 1999, grew proud when I saw the end of Z and BOG was my fandreams coming true. Can't wait to ROF.