Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by jjgp1112 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:34 pm

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Post by singsing » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:35 pm

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Marco Polo wrote:And also why does he need a Segway when he can fly. :think:
Is it really that strange? I didn't think anything of it. Keep in mind that this is his job. It's probably a standard-issue thing that he's required to use. Besides, just because you don't need a car/bike/whatever doesn't mean they aren't fun to ride in.

I just hope he's portrayed as a useful cop. Kuririn is so often stripped of his competency for the sake of laughs, so I hope they don't show him having any trouble with normal criminals.
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Post by soulnova » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:44 pm

I had to come here to make sure the picture was real. It is already doing rounds on Facebook. I don't know how I feel about Krillin cop.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:22 pm

I guess being a cop can explain on why he cut all of his hair off. I wish he got a buzz cut instead but oh well.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:46 pm

He looks 9 years old.
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Post by Blade » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:51 pm

I think out of all of the 'hair' debates, Kuririn is the most straight forward. He has no transformations, and he was never bald because of male pattern hair loss or any other medical form of alopecia, he chose to shave it as martial artist. He stopped at some point after the defeat of Cell having adopted a family life, but clearly has changed his mind in the time between Battle of Gods and the new film.

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:53 pm

I'm not skilled enough in PhotoShop to try and edit muscles back onto Kuririn, but I did try to fix the wide-face back to where I'm used to seeing the eyes set in the manga.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:54 pm

Its things like this, that makes me remember how I hate Toriyama new art style for Dragon Ball.
If it was another manga like Jaco with only new characters, it was okay. But seeing the same characters that I saw in the past, drawed in this simple skinny way, its sad.

Krillin was never a buff guy and not taller either, but this design makes him too young. Hopefully it is better in the movie, like I saw in the trailer.
I don't have any problem with him having a normal job or being bald again.

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:01 pm

Toei seems very resistant to adapting to Toriyama's current artstyle, or at least Yamamuro is. I doubt we'll ever see this artstyle outside of Toriyama's own drawings.

I just want the art style from the series back. T_T
Buu arc's anime style, I was happy with that. I miss it.
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Post by KaiserNeko » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:05 pm

Personal opinion: Toriyama's new art style has very little to do with him being "out of practice". He still does art for Dragon Quest games as well as other projects such as JACO. He still draws (though not quite as often anymore) and following the evolution of his artistic style, it's easy to see that he's just leaned further toward a simpler, rounder style after all these years.

Do I like it as much as his old stuff? No. Do I love his character designs for this movie? God damn, I do. They're adorable, quirky, and completely disregarding the change in their physiques and the inconsistencies between older and current designs, they are very much in line with the characters. It's very super-flat, a style I always personally believed would heavily benefit a series such as Dragonball.

Also: Kuririn using a high-tech Segway is funny precisely because he doesn't need it. With any other character, I think it might fall flat. But the idea that Kuririn is mandated to use the silly contraption as opposed to his own abilities, perhaps even enjoying it from the perspective of "fitting the role", just makes me snicker.

So, tl;dr: Yes, Toriyama's style has changed. No use getting upset about it if you don't like it, as the designs will likely be tweaked for the movie anyway, and it isn't like the series is continuing proper via manga anytime soon. Kuririn on a segway is comedy; over analyzing it is probably unnecessary.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:06 pm

Chuquita wrote:Toei seems very resistant to adapting to Toriyama's current artstyle, or at least Yamamuro is. I doubt we'll ever see this artstyle outside of Toriyama's own drawings.
With all respect to Toriyama-sama, that's the best choice.
I still believe it can be some story rewriting/alternate universe in this movie.
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Post by NitroEX » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:12 pm

That picture of Krillin reminded me of the Studio Ghibli styled characters for some reason.

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Post by Kakacarrottop » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:22 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Its things like this, that makes me remember how I hate Toriyama new art style for Dragon Ball.
If it was another manga like Jaco with only new characters, it was okay. But seeing the same characters that I saw in the past, drawed in this simple skinny way, its sad.

Krillin was never a buff guy and not taller either, but this design makes him too young. Hopefully it is better in the movie, like I saw in the trailer.
I don't have any problem with him having a normal job or being bald again.

Time to arrest Freeza.
Really?
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Post by Blade » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:23 pm

The problem is that the Dragonball continuety in which the film is placed doesn't easily owe itself to a sudden dramatic shift in art style to childish looking, undetailed, whippet-lean characters of minimal physical stature.

Like I said, Toriyama is the boss - it's his world and he is unquestionable in his right to make these decisions but it's just like... visual counterpoint against the existing legend of the timeline where these events are supposed to be placed. I dunno.
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:31 pm

Whose character design so you think we'll see next?
My guess is we're doing this Thanksgiving Day Parade style, so Piccolo, Vegeta, Gokû, and then several months later, Freeza.
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Post by kaioken12 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:33 pm

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http://www.dragonball2015.com/news/detail.html#2-5069
Apart from the Instant Transmission one, that's some pretty good art! This Buu arc Gohan drawing looks pretty badass. Hard to think it's the same guy as the guy in Fukkatsu no F, lol.
But if he really doesn't go Super Saiyan in the movie, why use that art?! :?
Well, he did turn Super Saiyan already in the trailer.

Ok, he also did in the BoG trailer... and it was an oversight which was then corrected for the movie.
But especially then I don't believe they would make the same mistake all over again, would they?


I have to say, this time I do not feel this movie at all. Maybe it will change once I can actually see the final product in two years, but as of now it reminds me of the old non-canon DBZ movies.
Good for some time with popcorn and fun, but shallow and inconsistent compared with the original storyline. (And this despite the fact that Toriyama-sensei described it as an original continuation like he would have continued the manga...) :(

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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:37 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:As Toriyama gets older, his Dragon Ball characters get younger.

Kuririn, the 10-year old cop!

Goku, the man who ate so much he started losing weight!

When did this:
Become more attractive than this:
It doesn't really bother me that much. It's not like he's drawing anything worth reading to make it a big deal.
Seriously the comparison depresses me. The bottom Kanzenban image looks so good. It makes the recent drawing look like it was done by some fan. I hate how practically everyone is being drawn as if they suddenly were anorexic. What happened to the quality? I really do not like Toriyama's current art style. I really hope that it just sticks simple references, and never becomes the characters new builds.
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Post by KaiserNeko » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:38 pm

Something to also consider is that, with these essentially just being basic character design templates, it's understandable that Toriyama made them simple, but distinct. Also, very likely on in a short time frame. No matter what, they're going to be adapted and tweaked heavily to match their original physiques and proportions from the series proper, for the movie.

I just think that, focusing too heavily on these ultimately sucks the fun out of it. They're fun, different, and I can't wait to see them utilized in the movie proper.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:42 pm

Kakacarrottop wrote: Really?
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Yup. But because of that, its not impressive when compared to Freeza/Android arc Goku, Super/Majin Vegeta, Trunks USSj or Broly (this one is unfair).
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Post by Blade » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:04 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:I hate how practically everyone is being drawn as if they suddenly were anorexic. What happened to the quality?
As I've outlined in my own posts, I agree that the artistic shift is not to my taste and, in my opinion, out of continuety given the existing art in and around the given time period - but I think you should be more careful about the words you use. That's not a very appropriate or sensitive way of putting it.
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