The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by CatouttaHell » Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:44 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Pan [Shadow Dragon arc] vs. Super Boo [SS1 Gotenks absorbed]

Am I the only one that thinks Pan would stomp?
Pan in the last arc would crush SSj2 Vegetto IMO. No Z character can stand a chance against her.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Vegetto vs. Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta
Another godstomp IMO, this time in Vegetto's favour.
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Post by Angelus » Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:58 am

CatouttaHell wrote:Pan in the last arc would crush SSj2 Vegetto IMO. No Z character can stand a chance against her.
Going by your rating of GT Pan, then how come you would think that GT Shadow Dragons Arc SSJ4 Gogeta would lose to a Z Potara Fusion of Beerus and Whis?

And here's 2 quick ones before I hit the sack:

Blonde Launch VS Videl (Buu Arc, Pre-Gohan Training)
[No weapons. No sneezing.]

Pui Pui VS Kibito
[Kibito stops being a pussy and actually attacks]

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:05 am

Angelus wrote:
CatouttaHell wrote:Pan in the last arc would crush SSj2 Vegetto IMO. No Z character can stand a chance against her.
Going by your rating of GT Pan, then how come you would think that GT Shadow Dragons Arc SSJ4 Gogeta would lose to a Z Potara Fusion of Beerus and Whis?

And here's 2 quick ones before I hit the sack:

Blonde Launch VS Videl (Buu Arc, Pre-Gohan Training)
[No weapons. No sneezing.]

Pui Pui VS Kibito
[Kibito stops being a pussy and actually attacks]
1. Videl

2. Probably Pui Pui

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Post by Kaboom » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:15 am

Angelus wrote:Blonde Launch VS Videl (Buu Arc, Pre-Gohan Training) [No weapons. No sneezing.]

Pui Pui VS Kibito [Kibito stops being a pussy and actually attacks]
— Nega-Lunch can't do much without her weapons, while Videl is a highly trained martial artist with a battle power already greater than her dad's. The champion of justice prevails and sends the soundly defeated bank robber back to jail.

— Kibito has a battle power roughly on-par with that of base Gohan, who's only moderately weaker than base Vegeta, who squashed Pui-Pui under his boot like a bug. There's no discernible difference in just how badly Pui-Pui gets slaughtered by Kibito or Vegeta.
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Post by Angelus » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:17 am

Oh but Blonde Launch does have some anime feats.

... so what the heck was Kibito and Eastern Kaioshin so scared of? :?

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Post by Darkron2151 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:26 am

Angelus wrote: ... so what the heck was Kibito and Eastern Kaioshin so scared of? :?
Babidi's Magic, his henchmen's reputation for being the "strongest in the universe", Dabura's power and reputation, and of course, Majin Buu. It could be that they were just cautious and not "scared" of all the henchmen except Dabura, whom which Kaioshin actually feared.

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Post by Kaboom » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:29 am

Angelus wrote:... so what the heck was Kibito and Eastern Kaioshin so scared of? :?
Majin Boo, and by proxy Bobbidi, and by further proxy any of Bobbidi's minions. Basically what Darkron beat me to saying.

Plus factor in that the power of Bobbidi's "majin-ized" minions possibly can't be measured by sensing, and it would be further cause for apprehension. Kaioshin wants to play things safe, but the Saiyans are more excited and content to just jump in and test their foes the old-fashioned way.
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Post by Angelus » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:45 am

So Kibito and him were basically just being scaredy-cats. Fucking Eastern Kaioshin, yo. At least the four Kais actually had the balls to face and then seal up Bojack and his crew in the movie.

Anyways, final verdict on Blonde Launch losing to Videl, even if we include Launch's anime feats?

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:48 am

Angelus wrote:So Kibito and him were basically just being scaredy-cats. Fucking Eastern Kaioshin, yo. At least the four Kais actually had the balls to face and then seal up Bojack and his crew in the movie.

Anyways, final verdict on Blonde Launch losing to Videl, even if we include Launch's anime feats?
I know right? Fucking East Kaioshin, being scared of the guy who murdered his entire family. What a bitch.
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Post by Angelus » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:50 am

That was Kid Buu, not Yakon, Pui Pui or the murderer's son, Babidi. Dabura, sure, okay, be scared because he is actually on par with Cell.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:53 am

Angelus wrote:That was Kid Buu, not Yakon, Pui Pui or the murderer's son, Babidi. Dabura, sure, okay, be scared because he is actually on par with Cell.
He's terrified that Buu's going to be awoken by these guys, and the people he brought to help him don't give a shit. I don't see why people have a hard time getting that. Kaioshin's seriously one of the most straightforward, normal, characters in the entire series.
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Post by Angelus » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:07 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:He's terrified that Buu's going to be awoken by these guys, and the people he brought to help him don't give a shit. I don't see why people have a hard time getting that. Kaioshin's seriously one of the most straightforward, normal, characters in the entire series.
Hahahaha! Well... okay now it's reasonable. Theeese... fucking Saiyans, yo. :lol:

Alright one more for the road..

Tambourine VS 22nd WMAT Goku, Tien, Jackie Chun, Krillin, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Man-Wolf, Pamput, and King Chappa
[BUT IMMEDIATELY after the 22nd WMAT ended. Meaning, the 22nd WMAT participants are still tired from their matches. No flying.]

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Post by Darkron2151 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:21 am

Angelus wrote: Tambourine VS 22nd WMAT Goku, Tenshinhan, Jackie Chun, Krillin, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Man-Wolf, Pamput, and King Chappa
[BUT IMMEDIATELY after the 22nd WMAT ended. Meaning, the 22nd WMAT participants are still tired from their matches. No flying.]
Wait, so if this is immediately afterwards, and the conditions of all the fighters hasn't changed, that means Goku and Tenshinhan are tired as heck, Man-Wolf is just a man, Roshi's the same, King Chappa's gone because I don't even know if he stuck around, and Krillin's dead.....Tambourine wins.

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Post by CatouttaHell » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:32 am

Angelus wrote:Going by your rating of GT Pan, then how come you would think that GT Shadow Dragons Arc SSJ4 Gogeta would lose to a Z Potara Fusion of Beerus and Whis?
Well Beerus and Whis could be anywhere GT-wise IMO. I'm a BoG haxer so I personally take Super Yi Xing Long's "I am now a god of destruction" statement when he reabsorbs Si Xing Long becomes complete to be a power statement and by extension: SSj God Goku ~ Super Yi Xing Long or Beerus ~ Super Yi Xing Long. If nothing else the God Ki thing just might explain SSj4 Gogeta's red hair compared to SSj4 Goku/Vegeta's black hair... (:
Angelus wrote:Blonde Launch VS Videl (Buu Arc, Pre-Gohan Training)
[No weapons. No sneezing.]
Videl wins probably. She's above Mr. Satan, who is very strong by the standards of real life Earthlings. Lunch is never implied to be superhuman.
Angelus wrote:Pui Pui VS Kibito
[Kibito stops being a pussy and actually attacks]
I like to think Pui-Pui would win this. They're both useless and there's no real way to tell where their powers are, but at least Pui-Pui has Babidi stupidly thinking he can beat the suppressed base Saiya-jins backing him.
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Post by singsing » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:51 am

CatouttaHell wrote:
Angelus wrote:Going by your rating of GT Pan, then how come you would think that GT Shadow Dragons Arc SSJ4 Gogeta would lose to a Z Potara Fusion of Beerus and Whis?
Well Beerus and Whis could be anywhere GT-wise IMO. I'm a BoG haxer so I personally take Super Yi Xing Long's "I am now a god of destruction" statement when he reabsorbs Si Xing Long becomes complete to be a power statement and by extension: SSj God Goku ~ Super Yi Xing Long or Beerus ~ Super Yi Xing Long. If nothing else the God Ki thing just might explain SSj4 Gogeta's red hair compared to SSj4 Goku/Vegeta's black hair... (:
Angelus wrote:Blonde Launch VS Videl (Buu Arc, Pre-Gohan Training)
[No weapons. No sneezing.]
Videl wins probably. She's above Mr. Satan, who is very strong by the standards of real life Earthlings. Lunch is never implied to be superhuman.
Angelus wrote:Pui Pui VS Kibito
[Kibito stops being a pussy and actually attacks]
I like to think Pui-Pui would win this. They're both useless and there's no real way to tell where their powers are, but at least Pui-Pui has Babidi stupidly thinking he can beat the suppressed base Saiya-jins backing him.
We know almost exactly where Kibito is from statements.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:48 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Angelus wrote:So Kibito and him were basically just being scaredy-cats. Fucking Eastern Kaioshin, yo. At least the four Kais actually had the balls to face and then seal up Bojack and his crew in the movie.

Anyways, final verdict on Blonde Launch losing to Videl, even if we include Launch's anime feats?
I know right? Fucking East Kaioshin, being scared of the guy who murdered his entire family. What a bitch.
Don't forget that, when it came time to throw down, he actually did attempt to fight tons-of-fun despite being scared shitless and completely outmatched. Fighting jelly jugs might have been even worse than fighting Pure Buu, since fatass resembled a twisted, monstrous version of what was likely his father-figure. And he managed to survive the ordeal and save Gohan.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:57 pm

Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks vs. Super Saiyan 1 Gogeta

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Post by CatouttaHell » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:09 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks vs. Super Saiyan 1 Gogeta
Gotenks wins even despite the measly 2x SSj2 boost IMO.
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Post by Angelus » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:27 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks vs. Super Saiyan 1 Gogeta
I say Gotenks, if it's post-ROSAT. Gogeta can't be two times more powerful with just SSJ. However, Gogeta's IT+Kamehameha combo would kill Gotenks, so there's that.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:28 pm

Angelus wrote:And here's 3 more to add to that, for the day:

Kid Buu VS Kibito Kai (with Kaioken x3)
[Kaioken has no drain though. No candy beam, absorbing, blowing up of planets]

Android 17 VS Mecha Freeza
[But 17 can only use his tongue to kill, just like how Tao did to General Blue]

Base Gogeta (Buu Saga) VS Movie 10 LSSJ Broly

former versus:
1. Kibitoshin still loses

2. 17

3. I'm starting to think base fusions don't need to be that strong. It should be a bigger boost than SSJ tho. So I would say Gogeta is close. He can pull it off.

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