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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by EmmaWinters » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:37 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It was mentioned, like a week ago when it was showed at Jump Festa. lol
It's on the front page, too. Whoops.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:49 am

-Talking about BOG characters new look-
I think Krillin, Tenshinhan and Satan (ignoring how skinny he was) never looked better.

Overall, most of them were interesting. The only ones I didnt like much were Gohan and Videl.

-Talking about Toriyama-
One of the problems in this fanbase it that a lot of people want the series back but then they don't give any freedom to Toriyama. Seems like they don't even know his writing style works (and they don't).
- When we got the characters Beerus and Whis revealed there was a lot more hate than praise.
- Super Saiyan God was the same.
- Shenlong being scared of Beerus and Vegeta Bingo scene ruined the characters for some.
- The movie itself for some people is the worst thing ever.

These people that wanted the series back and now are bitching and saying Toriyama should stop because he's getting senile, dont realize how ungrateful they are.
I don't know any other mangaka that came back after all these years by fans demand. They may think Toriyama ended the manga yesterday.

Now with this movie, the story repeats itself
Freeza coming back (even though he was teased in BOG), Gohan new look and Krillin Cop = Toriyama running out of ideas and becoming senile.
Apparently for some people, Krillin have a normal job is ruining the character. And after all these years, Gohan becoming a nerd in the end is new.

There are already out there, the normal fortune tellers that even before seeing the movie, they already saying it will suck.

I can't wait to see the reactions when these guys get to know Goku won't became ssj in this movie.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

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Post by Chuquita » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:54 pm

I imagine Twitter and YouTube will be something else when they find out about no ssj.
I'm surprised they don't know yet, or do they?
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Post by KaiserNeko » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:05 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:-Talking about BOG characters new look-
I think Krillin, Tenshinhan and Satan (ignoring how skinny he was) never looked better.

Overall, most of them were interesting. The only ones I didnt like much were Gohan and Videl.

-Talking about Toriyama-
One of the problems in this fanbase it that a lot of people want the series back but then they don't give any freedom to Toriyama. Seems like they don't even know his writing style works (and they don't).
- When we got the characters Beerus and Whis revealed there was a lot more hate than praise.
- Super Saiyan God was the same.
- Shenlong being scared of Beerus and Vegeta Bingo scene ruined the characters for some.
- The movie itself for some people is the worst thing ever.

These people that wanted the series back and now are bitching and saying Toriyama should stop because he's getting senile, dont realize how ungrateful they are.
I don't know any other mangaka that came back after all these years by fans demand. They may think Toriyama ended the manga yesterday.

Now with this movie, the story repeats itself
Freeza coming back (even though he was teased in BOG), Gohan new look and Krillin Cop = Toriyama running out of ideas and becoming senile.
Apparently for some people, Krillin have a normal job is ruining the character. And after all these years, Gohan becoming a nerd in the end is new.

There are already out there, the normal fortune tellers that even before seeing the movie, they already saying it will suck.

I can't wait to see the reactions when these guys get to know Goku won't became ssj in this movie.
I am all about this post.

Doing something new and interesting with the characters is necessary at his point. Kuririn having a job makes (comedic) sense. Gohan giving up on being a great fighter makes sense. Toriyama is trying new things and playing around with designs; this should be WELCOME. Plenty of artists and writers are too scared to shake up their status quo!
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:09 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:-Talking about BOG characters new look-
I think Krillin, Tenshinhan and Satan (ignoring how skinny he was) never looked better.

Overall, most of them were interesting. The only ones I didnt like much were Gohan and Videl.

-Talking about Toriyama-
One of the problems in this fanbase it that a lot of people want the series back but then they don't give any freedom to Toriyama. Seems like they don't even know his writing style works (and they don't).
- When we got the characters Beerus and Whis revealed there was a lot more hate than praise.
- Super Saiyan God was the same.
- Shenlong being scared of Beerus and Vegeta Bingo scene ruined the characters for some.
- The movie itself for some people is the worst thing ever.

These people that wanted the series back and now are bitching and saying Toriyama should stop because he's getting senile, dont realize how ungrateful they are.
I don't know any other mangaka that came back after all these years by fans demand. They may think Toriyama ended the manga yesterday.

Now with this movie, the story repeats itself
Freeza coming back (even though he was teased in BOG), Gohan new look and Krillin Cop = Toriyama running out of ideas and becoming senile.
Apparently for some people, Krillin have a normal job is ruining the character. And after all these years, Gohan becoming a nerd in the end is new.

There are already out there, the normal fortune tellers that even before seeing the movie, they already saying it will suck.

I can't wait to see the reactions when these guys get to know Goku won't became ssj in this movie.
I don't see how anyone will care at all that Krillin's a cop, or mind Gohan's design much. Frieza coming back and being the central threat is awesome to me. It was about time, actually. I'm really excited for this film.

You may think, "well, then this doesn't apply to you", but it does since I was one of the people who hated Beerus and Whis' designs, thought the bingo scene hurt Vegeta's character, considered SSJG one of the lamest transformations ever, and overall didn't like BoG much. : )
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:23 pm

Chuquita wrote:I imagine Twitter and YouTube will be something else when they find out about no ssj.
I'm surprised they don't know yet, or do they?
They don't. Just like they didn't know Krillin would be a cop until yesterday.
Kanzenshuu members are VIP. :P
You will see internet explode that day.

Kamehameha and Super Saiyans are by far the most iconic things of this series.
And Toriyama seems like to have the balls to stop using one of them. Its a risky move though.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:57 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I imagine Twitter and YouTube will be something else when they find out about no ssj.
I'm surprised they don't know yet, or do they?
They don't. Just like they didn't know Krillin would be a cop until yesterday.
Kanzenshuu members are VIP. :P
You will see internet explode that day.

Kamehameha and Super Saiyans are by far the most iconic things of this series.
And Toriyama seems like to have the balls to stop using one of them. Its a risky move though.
Meaning they're likely only following the movie through ANN, Crunchyroll, and their personal social circles.
And neither of the sites I mentioned have reported anything that happened at the panel at Jump Festa.
So they won't know until that info gets repeated in an issue of Weekly or VJump.
That could be a while.

I applaud Toriyama's risky move. Keeps us guessing. If he didn't take risks, wouldn't have gotten the ssjg design we did. Yamamuro's design was the safer one.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:05 pm

Chuquita wrote: I applaud Toriyama's risky move. Keeps us guessing. If he didn't take risks, wouldn't have gotten the ssjg design we did. Yamamuro's design was the safer one.
If he didn't take risks, Goku wouldn't even grew up. His editor, back then thought that change the main character like that would be risky.
So he's doing this moves since day one. Rebel Tori xD
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:06 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Chuquita wrote: I applaud Toriyama's risky move. Keeps us guessing. If he didn't take risks, wouldn't have gotten the ssjg design we did. Yamamuro's design was the safer one.
If he didn't take risks, Goku wouldn't even grew up. His editor, back then thought that change the main character like that would be risky.
So he's doing this moves since day one. Rebel Tori xD
Neither of those risks compare to not using SSJ in the movie, not seeing SSJ anymore isn't going to stop me from watching Dragonball but it is going to take away one of my favorite aspects of the series.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:14 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Chuquita wrote: I applaud Toriyama's risky move. Keeps us guessing. If he didn't take risks, wouldn't have gotten the ssjg design we did. Yamamuro's design was the safer one.
If he didn't take risks, Goku wouldn't even grew up. His editor, back then thought that change the main character like that would be risky.
So he's doing this moves since day one. Rebel Tori xD
Rage against the machine Toriyama! :twisted:

Honestly though, I'm glad Toriyama is going so against the norm, with his recent contributions in Battle Of Gods and now in FnF. When I see reactions and comments like this, it just saddens me. Its like some Dragon Ball Z fans refuse to accept change. Toriyama is doing things his way and more power to him because honestly it feels more like Dragon Ball with his input in anything related to the franchise. Although, I didn't care for Dragon Ball Minus at all.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:22 pm

One podcast I listed to on Youtube mention what if Toriyama choose to bring back another villain instead of Freeza, who would have been. I would imagine Toriyama could have brought back Dr. Gero if he didn't do Freeza since he would give him the proper treatment that he originally wanted to do. He could have General White and Colonel Violet wish back Gero.
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Post by Gokufan » Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:44 pm

I had been a Dragon Ball fan for years now. Recently, i had a small break from it, but I started re-watching original Dragon Ball series.

Yesterday I finally watched Battle of Gods. I was afraid, that I would be disappointed. After seeing it my first thought was that... I was waiting for this movie for all my life. I felt like I was 10 years old again, it was just great. I always wanted to think that Dragon Ball GT never existed, and BoG timeline surely helps.

I can't wait for the upcoming 2015 movie. Personally, my favourite DB sagas are from the beginning to the defeat of Freeza. Am I the only one that loves the idea of Kuririn becoming a Police officer, and Goku never going to SSJ again? I think that SSJ after Freeza saga was overused.

I was born in 1994, and I always wanted to see Dragon Ball in the cinema. I live in Poland, and sadly Battle of Gods never hit the theathers here. But I'm going to fullfill my dream with this new movie, even if it means going to UK or somewhere just to watch it :D.

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Post by EmmaWinters » Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:47 pm

Gokufan wrote:Am I the only one that loves the idea of Kuririn becoming a Police officer, and Goku never going to SSJ again?
Nope. I'm positively elated that things are getting shaken up.
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Post by Saiga » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:01 pm

Frankly I don't care about Kuririn being a police officer. It's not shaking anything up, and won't have a huge impact on anything. It's a job that he will have absolutely no difficulty fulfilling, unless Toei stick their grubby fingers in and make him a butt monkey as they usually do.

I don't see what the fuss is about. The outfit is a nice touch, that's it.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:06 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:
Chuquita wrote: I applaud Toriyama's risky move. Keeps us guessing. If he didn't take risks, wouldn't have gotten the ssjg design we did. Yamamuro's design was the safer one.
If he didn't take risks, Goku wouldn't even grew up. His editor, back then thought that change the main character like that would be risky.
So he's doing this moves since day one. Rebel Tori xD
Neither of those risks compare to not using SSJ in the movie, not seeing SSJ anymore isn't going to stop me from watching Dragonball but it is going to take away one of my favorite aspects of the series.
Do we know for sure there's no SSJ in the movie? Or is it SSJ Goku and Vegeta that's going away .

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:08 pm

It was just said that Goku won't use it. We've already seen SS Gohan. Though whether he get's recolored into Ultimate Gohan again is another story.
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Do we know for sure there's no SSJ in the movie? Or is it SSJ Goku and Vegeta that's going away .
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:14 pm

So how's everyone's excitement levels comparing to this time, two years ago?

Does the fact that we've already had a movie dampen things somewhat? Or does the return of Freeza excite you more than anything we'd seen from BOG at this stage?

I know for me, personally, BOG only worked as well as it did because it was the first movie in 17 years. ROF will definitely have to be a more ambitious outing, so I'm cautiously optimistic this time around. A lot of the novelties that came with the first movie have worn off and I feel like we're going to end up being a lot harsher on everything as we learn more about ROF. I think the fact that BOG was the first proper, feature-length, stand-alone film that the franchise had seen made the whole build-up for me back in 2012, but it's hard to differentiate my feelings from the lead up to the movie and after seeing the movie now.

On the flip-side, I think there's less of a chance of us suffering from One Piece Film envy this time around since they don't seem to have any big screen outings coming at this point in time. On second thought, maybe not. I'm still envious of their recent films. :sick:

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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:28 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote: -Talking about Toriyama-
One of the problems in this fanbase it that a lot of people want the series back but then they don't give any freedom to Toriyama. Seems like they don't even know his writing style works (and they don't).
- When we got the characters Beerus and Whis revealed there was a lot more hate than praise.
- Super Saiyan God was the same.
There are two sides to that. Some people are legitamently disappointed for the underwhelming positions they played but still enjoy the characters, they just seemed like cameos in their own debut.
Others hate Beerus' design for arbitrary reasons. Most of their alternative animal/demon designs however I've seen made look atrocious. Thats the same side of the fanbase that asserted that SSJG should have looked like a gold SSJ4.

FortuneSSJ wrote:Shenlong being scared of Beerus and Vegeta Bingo scene ruined the characters for some.
- Shenron being scared wasnt funny to me, but seemingly very out of character. Shenron was always portayed as a tanquil, near omniscience spiritual figure with intellect like that of Elder Kai. Him being scared to a point of shamelessly kissing up to Beerus was just terriblely overdone for a reaction as if he of all characters was sqeeing for an autograph.
FortuneSSJ wrote:Seems like they don't even know his writing style works (and they don't).
The movie itself bored people not completely watching it from the point of view of the fans of the japanese version & with the dragonball mindset. They watched it from the Toonami point of view. Not many people care about what Whis likes to eat or see the significance of yellow pudding but regardless the humour was based on really weak scenarios.
FortuneSSJ wrote:These people that wanted the series back and now are bitching and saying Toriyama should stop because he's getting senile, dont realize how ungrateful they are. Now with this movie, the story repeats itself. Freeza coming back (even though he was teased in BOG), Gohan new look and Krillin Cop = Toriyama running out of ideas and becoming senile. Apparently for some people, Krillin have a normal job is ruining the character. And after all these years, Gohan becoming a nerd in the end is new. Freeza coming back for me could only be interesting if they do something worth while with it; and not just make it like the usual.(Where hes just there to intimidate the heroes and hype the scenario but has no bulk to a purpose). Some of the speculation stories sound really cool like Freeza becoming the new God over Beerus somehow. Some popular theories I hear now are kinda lame and seem plausible in possibility but not so in direction. Like the "Cloned training Dummy" thing Whis brought back: that people off here are suggesting.

I don't know any other mangaka that came back after all these years by fans demand. They may think Toriyama ended the manga yesterday.
Being ungrateful is one thing, but people held higher expectations for his return. They wanted unanswered questions to be answered or abstract concepts to be explored. Beerus and Whis among most of the fans has been recieved very positively in additions, where as Freeza vs Goku again seems just redundant and probably will be. He should be introducing newer things to freshen it up. I for one was hoping Goku & Vegeta would be introduced into a new dimension of warriors as a lot of people expected. Krillin being a momentary Cop doesnt mean anything. I doubt hes going to get his own show because of it or him running around getting burglers off screen will impact the storyline. Its just useless trivia. Like Piccolo liking to play the air guitar or Cell mastering Oragami. Unless its a setting for a subplot, what about it? Goku being a Raddish farmer is at least interesting, it had significance. And a joke with reference to his brother.
It at least mattered within the time it was mentioned for their contest.
FortuneSSJ wrote:I can't wait to see the reactions when these guys get to know Goku won't became ssj in this movie.
I cant wait to see the reaction to when Vegeta gets shafted and Goku beats Freeza again.
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote: I know for me, personally, BOG only worked as well as it did because it was the first movie in 17 years. ROF will definitely have to be a more ambitious outing, so I'm cautiously optimistic this time around. A lot of the novelties that came with the first movie have worn off and I feel like we're going to end up being a lot harsher on everything as we learn more about ROF. I think the fact that BOG was the first proper, feature-length, stand-alone film that the franchise had seen made the whole build-up for me back in 2012, but it's hard to differentiate my feelings from the lead up to the movie and after seeing the movie now.

On the flip-side, I think there's less of a chance of us suffering from One Piece Film envy this time around since they don't seem to have any big screen outings coming at this point in time. On second thought, maybe not. I'm still envious of their recent films. :sick:
A lot of people dont see the point of Freeza and are running off misconceptions, but unless his addition back into relevance is some sort of device or at least makes an impact; people will turn their noses. And the explaination alone could kill the whole thing. But I agree a lot of the hype for BOG was just on excitement high from the return of DB and that washed away all the potential disappointment, even people who didnt like the movie after all tell themselves to like it just because its something new, with or without the plotholes and ugly character models.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:35 pm

One Piece envy and Precure envy are real. Luckily for me, I like Precure. One Piece, I actually think I like the OPP and their OP manga reviews more than the series by itself. Those reviews are wonderful, especially the character voices.

I'm also relived there is no OP movie announced, as it ups the chances for F's animation.
That Precure movie this spring is not only cgi like was thought earlier though.

My excitement for this movie links directly to info we don't know yet, so I'd have to get back on that.
I am excited, but waiting on ssjg Gokû's fate along with the missing characters.
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