How exactly does BoG conflict with the manga?

[Angelus]

I've read that a lot of people hate BoG because it conflicts with the manga.

But could someone elaborate what these conflicts are?

[hyperbeing1]

personally the only major conflict is the characters ages and such. other contradiction may depend on if the movie was mistranslated.

[Kamiccolo9]

Mostly the ages, although that can be explained away.
There's also the existence of Tarble, if you consider that to be irreconcilable with the manga.
Most of the other "contradictions" go against fan theories, but aren't directly contradicted by the manga itself.

[hyperbeing1]

Mostly the ages, although that can be explained away.
There's also the existence of Tarble, if you consider that to be irreconcilable with the manga.
Most of the other "contradictions" go against fan theories, but aren't directly contradicted by the manga itself.

how could the ages be explained away. i ask cause i am not fully able to come up with the idea how they can be explained away other then the characters lying about their ages and the simple change in artistic design.

[Kamiccolo9]

Mostly the ages, although that can be explained away.
There's also the existence of Tarble, if you consider that to be irreconcilable with the manga.
Most of the other "contradictions" go against fan theories, but aren't directly contradicted by the manga itself.

how could the ages be explained away. i ask cause i am not fully able to come up with the idea how they can be explained away other then the characters lying about their ages and the simple change in artistic design.

Bulma's age can be explained by her lying about her age, which would fit in with her being so secretive about it earlier in the movie. It seems pretty clear to me that they just got the age wrong, but the explanation works.

[hyperbeing1]

Mostly the ages, although that can be explained away.
There's also the existence of Tarble, if you consider that to be irreconcilable with the manga.
Most of the other "contradictions" go against fan theories, but aren't directly contradicted by the manga itself.

how could the ages be explained away. i ask cause i am not fully able to come up with the idea how they can be explained away other then the characters lying about their ages and the simple change in artistic design.

Bulma's age can be explained by her lying about her age, which would fit in with her being so secretive about it earlier in the movie. It seems pretty clear to me that they just got the age wrong, but the explanation works.

cool idea it matches mine now what about mai's age.

[Kamiccolo9]

cool idea it matches mine now what about mai's age.

I don't know about the problem there. I must have missed that part.

[hyperbeing1]

cool idea it matches mine now what about mai's age.

I don't know about the problem there. I must have missed that part.

well the issue is that mai said she was 40 or something like that and that would apparently make her 12 in db. which she resembles a grown women though i guess she could have just looked older then she really is.

[Kamiccolo9]

cool idea it matches mine now what about mai's age.

I don't know about the problem there. I must have missed that part.

well the issue is that mai said she was 40 or something like that and that would apparently make her 12 in db. which she resembles a grown women though i guess she could have just looked older then she really is.

Maybe. I dunno. I mean, Bra was like, 8, in GT, yet looked like a teenager. Anime logic.

[hyperbeing1]

well the issue is that mai said she was 40 or something like that and that would apparently make her 12 in db. which she resembles a grown women though i guess she could have just looked older then she really is.[/quote]
Maybe. I dunno. I mean, Bra was like, 8, in GT, yet looked like a teenager. Anime logic.[/quote]
lol yeah i remember this one weird anime where there was this 16 year ld girl who looked like a preschooler. was very weird since she has a crush on someone who is her age but looks his age.

[Saiga]

There's also Kaio's planet being back without an explanation. Sure, you can explain it away yourself, but it's the same thing for the ages - it's still an error because the story offers no explanation for it.

[hyperbeing1]

There's also Kaio's planet being back without an explanation. Sure, you can explain it away yourself, but it's the same thing for the ages - it's still an error because the story offers no explanation for it.

it is not so hard to believe that king kai merely recreated the planet.

[Saiga]

There's also Kaio's planet being back without an explanation. Sure, you can explain it away yourself, but it's the same thing for the ages - it's still an error because the story offers no explanation for it.

it is not so hard to believe that king kai merely recreated the planet.

Like I said - you can explain it away yourself. Saying Kaio recreated it, or the Dragon Balls were used to wish it back, are both explanations. The dialogue of the movie implies Kaio can't simply do that, either.

[hyperbeing1]

There's also Kaio's planet being back without an explanation. Sure, you can explain it away yourself, but it's the same thing for the ages - it's still an error because the story offers no explanation for it.

it is not so hard to believe that king kai merely recreated the planet.

Like I said - you can explain it away yourself. Saying Kaio recreated it, or the Dragon Balls were used to wish it back, are both explanations. The dialogue of the movie implies Kaio can't simply do that, either.

you are saying a god of creation cannot recreate his own planet. and what dialogue suggests that.

[singsing]

you are saying a god of creation cannot recreate his own planet. and what dialogue suggests that.

Well I'm pretty sure not even the Supreme Kai's actually "create" planets. I forget the actual quote, but they like, "encourage" the growth or something... it was weird.

[hyperbeing1]

you are saying a god of creation cannot recreate his own planet. and what dialogue suggests that.

Well I'm pretty sure not even the Supreme Kai's actually "create" planets. I forget the actual quote, but they like, "encourage" the growth or something... it was weird.

true but it is not like that he cannot just "create " another one. also i just looked at my dialogue and it seemed i came of condescending if i did i do apologist. also how do i let this send a alert to me when someone posts.

[Saiga]

you are saying a god of creation cannot recreate his own planet. and what dialogue suggests that.

No, I'm not saying that. Kaio was never said to be a god of creation, that's the Kaioshin. The dialogue implies Kaio can't create planets, by saying that the reason Kaio's planet is so small is because Beerus destroyed the original planet, and he took one of the pieces to create the current planet. So... why do that if he can just restore his planet? And if the planet was restored by a wish, why restore the small one? The story gives no explanation.

[hyperbeing1]

you are saying a god of creation cannot recreate his own planet. and what dialogue suggests that.

No, I'm not saying that. Kaio was never said to be a god of creation, that's the Kaioshin. The dialogue implies Kaio can't create planets, by saying that the reason Kaio's planet is so small is because Beerus destroyed the original planet, and he took one of the pieces to create the current planet. So... why do that if he can just restore his planet? And if the planet was restored by a wish, why restore the small one? The story gives no explanation.

good point but the reason he may not have restored is cause he does not wanna risk upsetting bills or maybe as a reminder not to play with bills. kami can recreate the moon apparently via his magical powers unless you believe he used shenron or something . agreeably i admit they do not give an exact reason and i am merely guessing but among my guesses is maybe either kaio restored his planet or maybe kaioshin or old kaioshin.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

• Bulma is 38 years-old, while she should be 45.
• Mai says she is 41 years-old, while she should be at least at Bulma's age.
• The Dragon Balls grant 1 wish instead of 3.
• Tarble exists, even though Vegeta was sure in the manga (before learning Trunks' identity) that he, Goku, and Gohan were the only Saiyans left.

I think that's all. Even these plot-holes aren't that serious: Bulma & Mai are women, so they could be lying about their ages. Dende could have made the DBs weaker after seeing that the Pilaf Gang were gathering them so that they won't have 3 wishes (he is the God after all, and he sees everything). Tarble can't be explained, but if we can overlook Vegeta being sure that he is the strongest in the universe when Dodoria, Zarbon, the Ginyu Tokusentai, King Cold, and Freeza are around, I think we can overlook that as well.

There's also Kaio's planet being back without an explanation. Sure, you can explain it away yourself, but it's the same thing for the ages - it's still an error because the story offers no explanation for it.

It's not explained in the Theatrical Cut, but in the Special Edition, it is stated by Whis that Kaio does have the power to restore the planet, and he chose to keep it small instead of restoring the whole thing:

Seeing how you kept it at this size, even though you had the planet restored the other day... I suppose you like it at this size.

So, there is no plot-hole there anymore.

[Marco Polo]

Bulma & Mai are women, so they could be lying about their ages.

Dude...