The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Hugo Boss]

Goku [50% MSSJ - Cell Games] vs. SSJ Gr 3 Future Trunks
[the power up he did for Karin]

Powerwise, I think Trunks has the advantage, but he can't beat Goku with the speed disadvantage.

[Angelus]

It's over once Goku uses an IT+Kamehameha combo. If that combo did that to Cell, Future Trunks is toast.

I was looking more for who is stronger, forget skill/techniques

But that's what win fights. One reason why Gotenks is a force to be reckoned with, if he stops messing around. But power-wise, then of course USSJ Future Trunks. Cell already admitted that Future Trunks has surpassed him in terms of pure power... and in this match, you have Goku only being 50%, and to top it off, in the Cell Games, Goku wasn't wearing armor.

Great Ape Vegeta, Nappa and Raditz vs Tullece (post-fruit)

Mutchy (true form) vs Yakon

Spopovich and Yamu vs King Piccolo and Tambourine

Krillin, Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu (Saiyan Saga) vs Ginger, Nicky and Sansho

Tullece Crusher Corps (minus Tullece) vs Zarbon and Dodoria

Super Buu vs Teenage Bebi (in an absorption battle, not an actual fight since Buu would stomp)

Yamcha (Cell Games Saga) vs Dr. Wheelo

Turles destroys them. According to the movie pamphlet, Turles has a power level of 300K after eating the first fruit alone.

Mutchy... GT hax.

Tambourine is more than enough.

The Z Team. Garlic Jr's minions were even weaker than Garlic Jr... who was close in power with Kami.

Zarbon and Dodoria. The most powerful guy in the Tullece Crusher Corps had a PL of 13,000 according to the movie pamphlet.

Absorption battle? Huh? Super Buu absorbs Bebi then.

Yamcha. According to movie pamphlet for Dragon Ball Z: The Tree of Might, Dr. Wheelo's power level is 39,000.

Future Trunks at the end of the Cell saga vs. kid Trunks after the Buu saga

This versus gets asked a lot. General consensus is that Kid Trunks has surpassed his Future counterpart.

1. SS2 Goten & Trunks [post] vs. FP Perfect Cell

2. Base Gotenks [post] vs. SS Goku [Cell Games]

3. Healthy SS Goku & Vegeta [Android arc] vs. Future 17 and 18

4. EoZ Pan vs. Base Goku [Cell Games]

5. EoZ SS2 Gogeta vs. Gohan-Buu

The kids. They're SSJ2s. Even if they're not as powerful as SS2 Cell Games Gohan, there's two of them.

Um. Gotenks.

The android twins stomp. Future 17 is enough.

IMO, Goku. Experience and techniques plus knowing how Pan fights, from training her, would be a stomp.

Gohan-Buu, IMO. Mystic Gohan is a beast... and you have Super Buu's power to add to that.

[singsing]

Got some versus sets!

Movie 10 SSJ Broly VS Full Power Perfect Cell

Old King Piccolo VS Drum
[No ki blasts or flying]

Eastern Kaioshin VS ASSJ Future Trunks (Pre-2nd Day ROSAT)

Bio-Broly VS SSJ Kid Goten and Trunks (Post-ROSAT)

1. FPC's techniques, skill, and the fact that he has a brain lets him win.

2. ... Piccolo....?

3. Actually have no idea.

4. I think the kids could just manage to pull it off

[mysticboy]

I'm gonna do it.

Majin Buu (any form except Evil and Super) vs. Kirby

[Angelus]

I'm gonna do it.

Majin Buu (any form except Evil and Super) vs. Kirby

Based on Screwattack's results, Kirby.

[voltlunok]

Hmmm well after going over most of this thread it seems that we can post a VS against people outside of Dragon Ball. I hope! So here goes!

21st WMAT Roshi (Jackie Chun) VS Master Asia from G gundam!

Bear Bandit Vs Argo Gulskii from G gundam.

FIGHT!

Their respective gundams having to sit the fight out of course.

[Cursed Lemon]

This versus gets asked a lot. General consensus is that Kid Trunks has surpassed his Future counterpart.

Sometimes I think that kid Trunks' strength is speculated SOLELY on the scene where he kind of catches Vegeta off guard in the gravity chamber, which bugs me a bit.

[Angelus]

Yeah. I always thought that Future Trunks was superior to the present one in every way until I read a lot of replies about versus' about it. Anyways, best not get into that here. That's another topic in itself that deserves it's own thread.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Which of these enemies can Super Janemba beat?

1. Base Gogeta

2. SSJ Gotenks [post]

3. SSJ3 Gotenks

4. Ultimate Gohan

5. Base Vegetto

[RandomGuy96]

Which of these enemies can Super Janemba beat?

1. Base Gogeta

2. SSJ Gotenks [post]

3. SSJ3 Gotenks

4. Ultimate Gohan

5. Base Vegetto

1. Seeing as how Evil Janemba could survive for a while against SS Gogeta, I don't see him having any problem killing base Gogeta. SS Gogeta had to beat down Janemba rather than just one-shotting him, and Janemba was still able to move around and attempt to fight back even after taking several blows. That's actually fairly unusual for the movies. Usually, the last power-up lets the hero take down the villain in just one or two hits (e.g. enraged Gohan one-shots Garlic Jr, Goku Genki-Damas Tullece, KK x100 Goku punches a hole in Slug then vaporizes him, SS2 Gohan impales Bojack).

2. Goku said Fat Janemba was stronger than anyone he had ever sensed, which given the ending of the movie, would logically include SS Gotenks. Then SS3 Goku smashes Fat Janemba. Then Evil Janemba beats SS3 Goku. So yeah...

3. Gotenks tries to toy with Janemba and ends up killing him by accident. SS3 Goku could put up a decent fight against Evil Janemba, and he admits he's absolute garbage compared to Super Buu, and had absolutely zero chance against him even with back-up from SS2 Vegeta. SS3 Gotenks was winning against Buu, and would have actually defeated him if Buu hadn't hid in a hole for half the battle, causing him to run out of stamina at a vital moment. Also, SS3 Gotenks > SS Gogeta by regular fusion logic. Poor Janemba gets wrecked.

4. This one is just not fair, at all.
Evil Janemba: can take SS3 Goku after a decent fight.
Super Buu: can completely crush SS3 Goku easily.
Ultimate Gohan: can smack Super Buu around like a little girl.

5. I dunno.

[Saiga]

This versus gets asked a lot. General consensus is that Kid Trunks has surpassed his Future counterpart.

Sometimes I think that kid Trunks' strength is speculated SOLELY on the scene where he kind of catches Vegeta off guard in the gravity chamber, which bugs me a bit.

It's not based solely on that (...and Vegeta was very much on guard, he was specifically trying to avoid Trunks' attacks), there's a few things that that is based off. Guides saying Goten = Gohan (I don't follow that, but you can see that anyone who would would pretty much have to think the kids are stronger than Trunks), the way they intimidated both 18 and Piccolo with their power, Goten's spar with Gohan... there's plenty of stuff that puts them up in that general vicinity.

I don't really see the problem. The biggest part of Future Trunks' strength comes from his last year of training (second RoSaT day) and Goten and Trunks were doing the same basic thing but for longer. I don't necessarily think that Kid Trunks is actually stronger but definitely comparable.

[mysticboy]

I'm gonna do it.

Majin Buu (any form except Evil and Super) vs. Kirby

Based on Screwattack's results, Kirby.

You agree with them? You don't have any opposing opinions or thoughts?

[CatouttaHell]

1. SS2 Goten & Trunks [post] vs. FP Perfect Cell

2. Base Gotenks [post] vs. SS Goku [Cell Games]

3. Healthy SS Goku & Vegeta [Android arc] vs. Future 17 and 18

4. EoZ Pan vs. Base Goku [Cell Games]

5. EoZ SS2 Gogeta vs. Gohan-Buu

1. Perfect Cell gets beaten worse than he did by SSj2 Gohan even if only one of them fights him.

2. Gotenks K.O.'s Goku with the air current he releases by getting into a fighting stance.

3. I think the Cyborgs would win but after a long and difficult fight.

4. Pan defeats her grandfather as easily as she did that Earthling brute.

5. Assuming Gogeta gets the same gains as Son and Vegeta: SSj Gogeta (EoZ) > Gohan-Boo > SSj3 Gogeta (Z) >= base Gogeta (EoZ) >= Ultimate Gohan IMO.



And one versus of my own:

1. SSj4 Goku, SSj4 Vegeta, & Super No. 17 (Post-Absorptions) vs. base Yi Xing Long

Yi Xing Long is aware of 17's absorption capabilities. SSj4 Vegeta is at regular power and not boosted with the Bruits Waves.

[Angelus]

Movie 10 SSJ Broly VS Full Power Perfect Cell
[No usage of Solar Flare or Special Beam Cannon]

Old King Piccolo VS Drum
[No ki blasts or flying]

Eastern Kaioshin VS ASSJ Future Trunks (Pre-2nd Day ROSAT)
[No paralysis magic. If things start to go bad for Future Trunks, he uses his sword.]

Bio-Broly VS SSJ Kid Goten and Trunks (Post-ROSAT)
[Could the kids win this rematch against their bully?]

1. SSj4 Goku, SSj4 Vegeta, & Super No. 17 (Post-Absorptions) vs. base Yi Xing Long

Yi Xing Long is aware of 17's absorption capabilities. SSj4 Vegeta is at regular power and not boosted with the Bruits Waves.

Goku, Vegeta, and Super 17 wins. Base Syn Shenron only dominated SSJ4 Goku but was later defeated by him. Basically, what already happened in GT, except now you have non-full power SSJ4 Vegeta and Super 17 helping out.

[Darkron2151]

Movie 10 SSJ Broly VS Full Power Perfect Cell
[No usage of Solar Flare or Special Beam Cannon]

Old King Piccolo VS Drum
[No ki blasts or flying]

Eastern Kaioshin VS ASSJ Future Trunks (Pre-2nd Day ROSAT)
[No paralysis magic. If things start to go bad for Future Trunks, he uses his sword.]

Bio-Broly VS SSJ Kid Goten and Trunks (Post-ROSAT)
[Could the kids win this rematch against their bully?]

1. Cell takes this. Broly IMO was just as strong as Cell during Movie 8 in his Legendary form. It doesn't seem likely that he found out to match that same power in just his Super Saiyan Form.

2. I'll go with Old Daimao.

3. Kaioshin stomps. SSJG2 Trunks was comparable to Piccolo at the cell Games, and Buu Saga Piccolo was even stronger than that, and he was scared straight of Kaioshin.

4. You know, I'll give it to the kids, so long as they use some good attacks.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

EoZ SS3 Goku vs Super Boo (can he finally handle him?)
~Goku has no energy drain
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Also;
End of Z SS3 Goku, gets grade 3 on top of that (make it the same boost as Gr 3 SSJ), and launches a fully charged Kamehameha at Ultimate Gohan, can Gohan tank it?

[Darkron2151]

EoZ SS3 Goku vs Super Boo (can he finally handle him?)
~Goku has no energy drain
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Also;
End of Z SS3 Goku, gets grade 3 on top of that (make it the same boost as Gr 3 SSJ), and launches a fully charged Kamehameha at Ultimate Gohan, can Gohan tank it?

1. Goku has no chance.

2. Gohan comes out of the dust and debris with some scratches, but nothing else. Keep in mind, this is IF BOG never happened, where SSJ3 is still relevant rather than god power.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

EoZ SS3 Goku vs Super Boo (can he finally handle him?)
~Goku has no energy drain
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Also;
End of Z SS3 Goku, gets grade 3 on top of that (make it the same boost as Gr 3 SSJ), and launches a fully charged Kamehameha at Ultimate Gohan, can Gohan tank it?

1. Goku has no chance.

2. Gohan comes out of the dust and debris with some scratches, but nothing else. Keep in mind, this is IF BOG never happened, where SSJ3 is still relevant rather than god power.

Disregarding BoG, do you follow EoZ Base Goku ~ Boo arc SS3 Goku ?

[Darkron2151]

Disregarding BoG, do you follow EoZ Base Goku ~ Boo arc SS3 Goku ?

There's no way Goku grew THAT much stronger through regular, run-of-the-mill training on Earth in 10 years. He had specialized training in the afterlife for 7 years and he still didn't even get 2x stronger IMO. And I'd doubt he used the ROSAT for his remaining year.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

There's no way Goku grew THAT much stronger through regular, run-of-the-mill training on Earth in 10 years. He had specialized training in the afterlife for 7 years and he still didn't even get 2x stronger IMO. And I'd doubt he used the ROSAT for his remaining year.

Training doesn't determine power, plot does. Goku fought on par with enraged Oob, who Goku said was exactly what he expected (he was expecting Kid Boo's reincarnation)