Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Doctor.]

So am I the only one freaking out at either the possibility of Freeza getting a billion times stronger in a day or being able to keep his body in the After Life? Both of these alternatives really make me upset and I hope neither of them is taken for the movie.

[Hellspawn28]

I think Freeza most likely trains after he got wish back to life. He heads back to his Planet and starts training for a whole year to catch up with Goku and the others. Tagoma and Sorbet most likely brought Freeza back to life when no one was around to notice.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

So am I the only one freaking out at either the possibility of Freeza getting a billion times stronger in a day or being able to keep his body in the After Life? Both of these alternatives really make me upset and I hope neither of them is taken for the movie.

As someone mentioned previously (might have been in a different thread) Freeza never trained in his life, yet Goku had and yet the fight between them was close until Goku transformed (even then it wasn't one sided), it isn't out the realm of possibilities that with training Freeza's power will increase.

[Low Tone G]

I think Freeza most likely trains after he got wish back to life. He heads back to his Planet and starts training for a whole year to catch up with Goku and the others. Tagoma and Sorbet most likely brought Freeza back to life when no one was around to notice.

I would like it to be this way. Even if Freeza is mutant and he can increase his strenth way better than any other life-form in the universe, not even then I would accept to catch up with Goku traning several days only. 2-3 years with his amazing potential would be plausible.

[Zelvin]

I think Freeza most likely trains after he got wish back to life. He heads back to his Planet and starts training for a whole year to catch up with Goku and the others. Tagoma and Sorbet most likely brought Freeza back to life when no one was around to notice.

I would like it to be this way. Even if Freeza is mutant and he can increase his strenth way better than any other life-form in the universe, not even then I would accept to catch up with Goku traning several days only. 2-3 years with his amazing potential would be plausible.

One thing to keep in mind was that it was said Freeza's power was increased when they gave him those cybernetics. So if the application of technology can be used to bolster his power, then it may be possible that if they had cloned his body, then it may have been altered to give it greater power than Freeza's original body. I myself still feel that Freeza's body was cloned, and that the Dragon Balls were used to transplant his soul into this new body. Which would explain the green liquid we see coming down around him as he emerges in his Original Form.

[WittyUsername]

I think Freeza most likely trains after he got wish back to life. He heads back to his Planet and starts training for a whole year to catch up with Goku and the others. Tagoma and Sorbet most likely brought Freeza back to life when no one was around to notice.

I would like it to be this way. Even if Freeza is mutant and he can increase his strenth way better than any other life-form in the universe, not even then I would accept to catch up with Goku traning several days only. 2-3 years with his amazing potential would be plausible.

Freeze having 2-3 years of training to keep up with the Z fighters(yes I use that term) makes sense. Still, didn't Battle of Gods sort of establish that the only thing that can beat someone with God ki, is someone else with God ki? If Goku maintained his God ki at the end of BoG, and according to rumors, he and Vegeta have been training under Whis, I don't see how Freeza training for a couple of years would suddenly make him a match for them.

[EmmaWinters]

I suppose I'll have to continue trusting Toriyama until some more information is made available.
In the meantime, you can find me on the floor in the fetal position.

[Low Tone G]

I think Freeza most likely trains after he got wish back to life. He heads back to his Planet and starts training for a whole year to catch up with Goku and the others. Tagoma and Sorbet most likely brought Freeza back to life when no one was around to notice.

I would like it to be this way. Even if Freeza is mutant and he can increase his strenth way better than any other life-form in the universe, not even then I would accept to catch up with Goku traning several days only. 2-3 years with his amazing potential would be plausible.

One thing to keep in mind was that it was said Freeza's power was increased when they gave him those cybernetics. So if the application of technology can be used to bolster his power, then it may be possible that if they had cloned his body, then it may have been altered to give it greater power than Freeza's original body. I myself still feel that Freeza's body was cloned, and that the Dragon Balls were used to transplant his soul into this new body. Which would explain the green liquid we see coming down around him as he emerges in his Original Form.

Yeah it's a very good theory. Excelent, if it turns out that Sorbet and Tagoma have already a Frieza body without soul, that would be shocking.

[singsing]

So am I the only one freaking out at either the possibility of Freeza getting a billion times stronger in a day or being able to keep his body in the After Life? Both of these alternatives really make me upset and I hope neither of them is taken for the movie.

As someone mentioned previously (might have been in a different thread) Freeza never trained in his life, yet Goku had and yet the fight between them was close until Goku transformed (even then it wasn't one sided), it isn't out the realm of possibilities that with training Freeza's power will increase.

I dunno, it looked pretty one-sided in the manga to me.

[Blade]

So am I the only one freaking out at either the possibility of Freeza getting a billion times stronger in a day or being able to keep his body in the After Life? Both of these alternatives really make me upset and I hope neither of them is taken for the movie.

As someone mentioned previously (might have been in a different thread) Freeza never trained in his life, yet Goku had and yet the fight between them was close until Goku transformed (even then it wasn't one sided), it isn't out the realm of possibilities that with training Freeza's power will increase.

I dunno, it looked pretty one-sided in the manga to me.

Yeah, in the Manga it was pretty cut and dry. Freeza dominated Goku after he stopped messing around, but once Goku transformed into a Super Saiyan, Freeza was outclassed. The anime made it more of a contest to drag things out on both sides, taking liberty especially in regard to Freeza's maximum power.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

I think Freeza most likely trains after he got wish back to life. He heads back to his Planet and starts training for a whole year to catch up with Goku and the others. Tagoma and Sorbet most likely brought Freeza back to life when no one was around to notice.

I would like it to be this way. Even if Freeza is mutant and he can increase his strenth way better than any other life-form in the universe, not even then I would accept to catch up with Goku traning several days only. 2-3 years with his amazing potential would be plausible.

I'm guessing Freeza gets the God power and trains with it so his body can catch up; and through that training the God power gives him a new transformation to support the boost: as cooler did finding his giant form. Most likely Freeza's Final form is on par with Post-Buu Goku(Base), Post BoG-Goku(Base) somehow; they fight a wild battle akin to their first fight and then, Freeza's god boost outclasses him & Beerus incredibly when he then transforms. At least thats what I hope.

[Zelvin]

Yeah it's a very good theory. Excelent, if it turns out that Sorbet and Tagoma have already a Freeza body without soul, that would be shocking.

It is quite possible, given that Freeza has been dead for around 20yrs by the time these events are to take place, so there's plenty of time for such a thing to have occurred. Given Gero could use a micro-bot the size of a fly to collect cell samples and used Freeza's dna as part of Cell's design, making a clone from DNZ collected while Freeza was in for cybernetic reconstruction would be simplicity itself.

I am of the mind that a cloned body is the only way to bring Freeza back if the rules of the Dragon Balls resurrection policy still applies; that someone dead for more than a year can't be brought back. And tampering with the body could explain a dramatic rise in power prior to any training. I am also still of the mind that Sorbet and Togoma aren't the heads of this operation, that someone else is behind the scenes and manipulating these events. After all, resurrecting Freeza so many years after his death doesn't appear like it'd benefit anyone, especially after knowing how easily he was killed on Earth when he tried to get his revenge.

[EmmaWinters]

I am of the mind that a cloned body is the only way to bring Freeza back if the rules of the Dragon Balls resurrection policy still applies; that someone dead for more than a year can't be brought back.

The one-year limitation only applies to large groups of people.

[miguelnuva1]

Anyone here the new rumor now that Vegito defeats Frieza.

[Zelvin]

The one-year limitation only applies to large groups of people.

And the DB's are supposed to give 2 wishes now, but that was either retconned or just forgotten about in BoG. Rules can certainly change. Namekians made Purunga able to bring back more than one person at a time, and Dende made it so Shenron can revive the same person multiple times.

[dbgtFO]

and Dende made it so Shenron can revive the same person multiple times.

Hmm
This i don't recall.

[Mewzard]

And the DB's are supposed to give 2 wishes now, but that was either retconned or just forgotten about in BoG. Rules can certainly change. Namekians made Purunga able to bring back more than one person at a time, and Dende made it so Shenron can revive the same person multiple times.

But that's not true at all. They never made one wish in Battle of Gods. They asked about SSJ God, he found out about Beerus, told them, then ran with his giant tail between his tiny legs.

[The Monkey King]

Anyone here the new rumor now that Vegito defeats Freeza.

I want Vegito back so much that I would be willing to entertain a random internet rumour.

[Zelvin]

and Dende made it so Shenron can revive the same person multiple times.

Hmm
This i don't recall.

It was in the stipulations when Dende was recreating the Dragon Balls for them. He said that by doing so he would have to limit the wishes to 2 instead of 3, as they first asked if they could have 3 wishes like Purunga.

[WittyUsername]

You know, I'm actually starting to get more excited about this film than I was earlier. When I first heard Freeza was coming back, I was skeptical because it sounded like a fanfic idea, but I'm now interested in seeing how things turn out with the news about Freeza training. I guess this film is also a perfect chance to give Freeza a more dignified death compared to what he received at the hands of Trunks.