Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Low Tone G]

Didn't Beerus say that Goku wouldn't be able to beat Freeza in his base form in BoG?

Yeah, but the Base Goku in this film is the the same Beerus had been talking about. That Base Goke was normal Goku without any God power, but this Goku is a God Goku with God power absorbed and used in his Base form. So technically this Goku is of the same strength(or not even stronger due to training with Whis) like SSJ God Goku from BOG. In that way Freeza is way way way waaaay below him.

SingleFringe&Sparks said post Buu Goku, not post BoG Goku.

Sorry I was spelling my sentence wrong, I reformulated it.

[ArchedThunder]

Sorry I was spelling my sentence wrong, I reformulated it.

I know what you were saying, but what he was saying is that Freeza would be as strong as Post Buu Goku and they would have a close battle then he would be stronger after transforming into his new form. So if he meant something different he worded it weirdly and I didn't understand.

[jollyr]

Anyone here the new rumor now that Vegito defeats Freeza.

While i doubt its true a Vegetto god would be amazing and ridiculous, id love it. And honestly i dont even like fusion as a concept but Vegetto was always cool. Sometimes i wonder what the series would be if they had never been able to defuse. I could see him popping up in Heroes aftr this movies released as a match for SSJ4 Gogeta. I wonder who would win that fight?

[dbgtFO]

and Dende made it so Shenron can revive the same person multiple times.

Hmm
This i don't recall.

It was in the stipulations when Dende was recreating the Dragon Balls for them. He said that by doing so he would have to limit the wishes to 2 instead of 3, as they first asked if they could have 3 wishes like Purunga.

No, I'm pretty sure his Shenlong still can't revive a person multiple times. It was said by Dende before the Cell Games and confirmed after the Cell Games, when Goku wasn't brought back like he should be, if Shenlong had that limitation removed.

[Zelvin]

No, I'm pretty sure his Shenlong still can't revive a person multiple times. It was said by Dende before the Cell Games and confirmed after the Cell Games, when Goku wasn't brought back like he should be, if Shenlong had that limitation removed.

Actually they made it so he could, but Goku refused to allow himself to be resurrected and used Telepathy through King Kai to inform them of this.

[Chuquita]

New Freeza "New Years" wishes at: http://www.dragonball2015-special.com/
If anything, at least you can tell Nakao is having fun recording these. XD

[dbgtFO]

No, I'm pretty sure his Shenlong still can't revive a person multiple times. It was said by Dende before the Cell Games and confirmed after the Cell Games, when Goku wasn't brought back like he should be, if Shenlong had that limitation removed.

Actually they made it so he could, but Goku refused to allow himself to be resurrected and used Telepathy through King Kai to inform them of this.

I'm pretty sure Dende directly stated the opposite before the Cell Games, where did you get the idea, that they could wish back someone multiple times with the Earth DBs

[Kamiccolo9]

No, I'm pretty sure his Shenlong still can't revive a person multiple times. It was said by Dende before the Cell Games and confirmed after the Cell Games, when Goku wasn't brought back like he should be, if Shenlong had that limitation removed.

Actually they made it so he could, but Goku refused to allow himself to be resurrected and used Telepathy through King Kai to inform them of this.

No, they didn't. After the Cell Games, they make the wish to bring everyone back, then they notice that Goku's still dead. They ask Shenron if they can use their entire second with to bring back Goku, and the dragon says that he can't do it because he can't bring back anyone who's already been wished back. Then they start to think of other ways to bring him back, and Goku finally contacts them.

[EmmaWinters]

Why are they compressing Nakao's messages to 10kbps?
The first message was so clear, and then they switched to flash-streaming.
Does anyone have the original not-shitty version saved?

[Zelvin]

No, they didn't. After the Cell Games, they make the wish to bring everyone back, then they notice that Goku's still dead. They ask Shenron if they can use their entire second with to bring back Goku, and the dragon says that he can't do it because he can't bring back anyone who's already been wished back. Then they start to think of other ways to bring him back, and Goku finally contacts them.

Think this is just the HD remake of DBZ when they make the wish. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t66akC5oEy4
But yeah apparently yer right. Though i guess depends on translation. Might have to go back to the manga. I mean in this clip at least they say "All those killed on Earth by Cell." Technically Goku died in Otherworld on King Kai's planet. But oh well. Thought Dende changed the rules.

[miguelnuva1]

I know it is a rumor but what if the Vegito coming rumor was true and the despair was no one knew how to defuse him? All it would take was Good Buu can't absorb and it would be a nice twist.

[Zelvin]

I know it is a rumor but what if the Vegito coming rumor was true and the despair was no one knew how to defuse him? All it would take was Good Buu can't absorb and it would be a nice twist.

It's an unfounded rumor and it'd require Potara Earrings. If there was any fusing it'd be for Gogeta. But that's not going to happen. It's better not to listen to rumor and just wait to see what other parts of the story or clips get teases over the next few months.

[Hellspawn28]

Vegito was cool but why he would come back? He only exist to save Gohan and the others inside of Buu which is why he was only in one chapter.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Why? That rumor makes no sense since Goku only fused with Vegito in order to save Gohan and the others inside of Buu. He's only a plot device and there's no reason for Vegito to return.

Vegito is very, VERY popular with fans.. so not a surprise to see this rumor.
He was even mentioned in BoG.

Why Gogeta is never an option is a bit frustrating and a lot more possible if anything exclusively ever used in a movie prior. Especially in this movie it would seem very well fit. Post-BOG Gogeta vs God Freeza.

Sorry I was spelling my sentence wrong, I reformulated it.

I know what you were saying, but what he was saying is that Freeza would be as strong as Post Buu Goku and they would have a close battle then he would be stronger after transforming into his new form. So if he meant something different he worded it weirdly and I didn't understand.

I lost my train of thought; I might have meant (BoG+1 or 2 years)Goku. (I keep forgetting BoG is a continuation post-Kid Buu).

Didn't Beerus say that Goku wouldn't be able to beat Freeza in his base form in BoG?

The only way to explain that is if somehow Whis knew prior to Freeza returning and didnt mention it to keep focus on Goku getting SSJG for Beerus.
Because if thats not the case, Goten & Trunks being tied with Freeza in the 2008 Special makes their bases stronger than pre-SSJG Goku Base?

I know it is a rumor but what if the Vegito coming rumor was true and the despair was no one knew how to defuse him? All it would take was Good Buu can't absorb and it would be a nice twist.

Doesnt sound likely. The despair is Freeza destroying the Earth.

Vegito coming back was a rumour when BoG was announced as well. Its just youtube making up crap for people to spread. Like:
- SSJGod Broly As the Despair.
- Planet Vegeta wished back & all the sayians are evil Super Sayians
- SSJBardock returning.
- SSJ4Goku retcon (Based on Pilaf Flashback clip)
- Beerus is Anubis god of Zombies.
- Whis is the Western Supreme Kai. (Female)
- Goku will be Evil.

[jollyr]

Vegito coming back was a rumour when BoG was announced as well. Its just youtube making up crap for people to spread. Like:
- SSJGod Broly As the Despair.
- Planet Vegeta wished back & all the sayians are evil Super Sayians
- SSJBardock returning.
- SSJ4Goku retcon (Based on Pilaf Flashback clip)
- Beerus is Anubis god of Zombies.
- Whis is the Western Supreme Kai. (Female)
- Goku will be Evil.[/quote]

The Planet Vegeta Super evil Saiyans idea actually sounds pretty cool

[EmmaWinters]

Happy new year, everyone!
Only ...106 more days to go.

[MajinAsura]

Happy new year, everyone!
Only ...106 more days to go.

You too!

[Chuquita]

The slow drip of plot info updates is the despair. T_T

I keep thinking it's gotta be something really bad that Freeza does to be despair, what with how that word has been used previously to refer to Future Trunks future and Buu killing almost all the kaioshin.

[miguelnuva1]

Now that I think about it Gogeta beating Frieza would be a great way to end the film. It lets Goku beat the main villain and lets Vegeta get revenge.

[EmmaWinters]

That's so generic though. I'd like to think that Toriyama is more creative than that.