Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[jollyr]

While obviously I'm extremely interested in the 12 universes I kinda doubt we'll ever really see them but I hope I'm wrong

[Zelvin]

We don't know that Goku will win. It might be Vegeta, or they might lose altogether. I don't think this movie is going to be that predictible. Even if they do win in the end, there will probably be a lot more going on than just the outcome of one fight.

Well something we do have to keep in mind is that, if we keep all the rules of the Dragon Balls from before, then none of them can be resurrected again with the exception of Piccolo. Roshi, Krillin, Chouzu, Tien, Yamcha, Goku, Vegeta, all of them have all been brought back before. Including a large portion of the Earth's population. So they can't really use Shenron to fix things for them anymore, and we don't get the impression of them paying the Namekians a visit. So far as we know, nobody dies here. At least nobody important or relevant to the Z-warriors.

Now, reportedly the film is going to be 2hrs long. Think that makes it the longest DBZ film ever made. Toriyama promised a lot of action, so we can expect at least half the movie to be fighting and/or training. Battles with Freeza may not even show up until the 2nd half of the film, leaving the first hour for character development, Freeza's revival, training and setting up the major battle in the latter half of the movie. We know Whis and Birus make an appearance, though neither looks directly involved in the events that we know since the full story hasn't been leaked and there's not enough in the teasers to make an approximate guess as to their involvement in this film.

There's a high probability that Freeza is going to be killed or maimed by the end of the film, so ultimately Goku or Vegeta or both defeats him, whether in God form or they turn SSJ and it was just a translation error saying that Goku wouldn't use that form. I feel a good portion of the film can be accurately guessed at. There are some still unknown parts, but I feel quite certain that nobody important is going to be dead by the end.

[Chuquita]

Hopefully we get some more substantial plot news-updates this month that can solve some of the speculation going on. The next issue of Weekly Jump and VJump come out the same week this month (Weekly on the 19th and V on the 21st). At the earliest I'd expect leaks around the 14th or so.

[singsing]

We don't know that Goku will win. It might be Vegeta, or they might lose altogether. I don't think this movie is going to be that predictible. Even if they do win in the end, there will probably be a lot more going on than just the outcome of one fight.

Well something we do have to keep in mind is that, if we keep all the rules of the Dragon Balls from before, then none of them can be resurrected again with the exception of Piccolo. Roshi, Krillin, Chouzu, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Goku, Vegeta, all of them have all been brought back before. Including a large portion of the Earth's population. So they can't really use Shenron to fix things for them anymore, and we don't get the impression of them paying the Namekians a visit. So far as we know, nobody dies here. At least nobody important or relevant to the Z-warriors.

Now, reportedly the film is going to be 2hrs long. Think that makes it the longest DBZ film ever made. Toriyama promised a lot of action, so we can expect at least half the movie to be fighting and/or training. Battles with Freeza may not even show up until the 2nd half of the film, leaving the first hour for character development, Freeza's revival, training and setting up the major battle in the latter half of the movie. We know Whis and Birus make an appearance, though neither looks directly involved in the events that we know since the full story hasn't been leaked and there's not enough in the teasers to make an approximate guess as to their involvement in this film.

There's a high probability that Freeza is going to be killed or maimed by the end of the film, so ultimately Goku or Vegeta or both defeats him, whether in God form or they turn SSJ and it was just a translation error saying that Goku wouldn't use that form. I feel a good portion of the film can be accurately guessed at. There are some still unknown parts, but I feel quite certain that nobody important is going to be dead by the end.

It's not that far fetched that they would just contact Namek and ask to use their Dragon Balls.... again.

[Zelvin]

It's not that far fetched that they would just contact Namek and ask to use their Dragon Balls.... again.

No, it's not far-fetched. But when you keep circling around the "universal copout" tool, then you lose any kind of sense of threat from villains when you can just wish back everything. Like Tien in Team Four Star; "Death literally has no consequences." The only time they started to feel the weight of mortality again was right after Piccolo fused with Kami and the Dragon Balls became inert. Then they got Dende and no more worries. And Goku has Instant Transmission so he can just pop to Namek. So if they keep going back to that, then you never get the feeling they're in any kind of real danger.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

That's so generic though. I'd like to think that Toriyama is more creative than that.

It should at least happen when Final form Freeza challenges them. It would just feel way too redundant if (most likely will be) Goku fighting him for the bulk; Vegeta freaks out and gets thrown off screen for a long time, and then Goku takes over with SSJGod power up out of no where, then Goku wins somehow. Thats boring.

It should be:
- Goku vs Freeza
- Vegeta vs Freeza
- Goku & Vegeta vs Freeza
- Freeza vs Beerus
- Gogeta vs Freeza
- New Form Freeza vs Gogeta
- Vegeta realizing he needs God power.
- New Form Freeza vs Beerus
- Goku & Vegeta training with Whis
- Times Up - Freeza wins briefly & Beerus is somehow immobile
- Vegeta somehow gets a good boost after seperating from Goku and maybe an opening on Freeza from Goku
- Vegeta God vs God Freeza.
- Somehow Vegeta gets the last shot in and Kills him.
- End.

Thats how I'd handle it.

[EmmaWinters]

If both Gogeta and Beerus aren't enough to take Freeza down, how would God Vegeta be enough? Even with a "boost"? If we're going to start resorting to random boosts again, I'd rather just choke down a "fusion wins" cop-out.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

If both Gogeta and Beerus aren't enough to take Freeza down, how would God Vegeta be enough? Even with a "boost"? If we're going to start resorting to random boosts again, I'd rather just choke down a "fusion wins" cop-out.

Well it isnt said how much stronger Freeza is in his new form or which of his forms uses the SSJG power; but random boosts have always been the premise anyway since the Buu saga really. Heck, SSJG is in itself a farfetched giant boost. Something Vegeta was the only character not to ever get.
Any other alternative would just feel redundant and typical. God save this film if a Genkidama is the last resort.

Why on earth does anyone think Vegetto will appear? There's no evidence to suggest it, it doesn't sound like something Toriyama would revisit and also... Why would you even want to? Been there, done that. There's nothing left to really explore about Vegetto. It would also be so unoriginal. Why do fans always want things like bring back Gogeta or Vegetto or let's see ssj3 Vegeta and so on. I think it's unoriginal that they're revisiting freeza but I trust Toriyama to put a fresh take on it. But considering he is already doing that I wouldn't count on even more retreads.

Retreats only work if they were to either represent something at a new angle or fail just to show progression and need. Vegitto isnt at all likely to return because character development just stamps it out. Gogeta on the other hand was never used in canon, and if Vegeta is willing to go-Boingo, than he cant complain about the fusion dance. Having Gogeta fail would also support a greater need to look to other options. SSJ3 Vegeta though is very unlikely at this point and pointless so thats scratched out regardless. But whats to be surprised about? People still think Bardock is coming back.

[Chuquita]

If Disc Wars really does end at 51 episodes, will that free up Shida to help out on F?
Or do they plan to send him elsewhere (maybe GoPriPre?).

[dbzfan7]

Yeah I give up. Apparently Vegeta deserves payback for some asshole stopping him from being an uncontrolled asshole.

[JulieYBM]

If Disc Wars really does end at 51 episodes, will that free up Shida to help out on F?
Or do they plan to send him elsewhere (maybe GoPriPre?).

If Disk Wars: Avengers ends on Episode #51 it would still end late March. Unless Shida Naotoshi finished any cuts for the end of the series a while before hand he would still be late in joining Fukkatsu no F. Fukkatsu no F will probably be finished in mid or late-March. We also have to keep in mind that Shida is working on Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Crystal and PreCure right now. Hell, on 19 October 2014 Shida tweeted about working on PreCure...but those cuts still haven't aired. This is really odd, considering he usually works on something two or three weeks before the episode airs. Maybe he's doing a massive amount of BANK animation for Go! Princess PreCure, though?

On 03 December 2014 Shida tweeted that although his arm was still giving him trouble he was going to work on PreCure, Dragon Ball, One Piece, Sailor Moon, and Avengers. None of these cuts have aired yet. Shida's last credit was for Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Crystal Episode #12 as the storyboard artist under Episode Director Satou Hiroyuki. Since then he has not received any credits.

[Chuquita]

Unfortunate.
I can live with him doing stuff for Precure and Crystal (since I'm following both I'll get to see his cuts anyway) but I'd rather have him on F.

[TheGmGoken]

Yeah I give up. Apparently Vegeta deserves payback for some asshole stopping him from being an uncontrolled asshole.

This is anime silly . One good deed suddenly means you're not a selfish prick who used to kill for a living. It also means you're allowed to do no harm and any memory of who you USED to be is erased by every character except yourself and your rival. Vegeta killed a-lot of people at the Tenkaichi Budokai. But after killing himself. That doesn't matter and he still deserve to kill Freeza.

Not that it matters though. Freeza already been beaten by Two Saiyans. Two SUPER Saiyans. If anything this movie will make Vegeta look like a straight bitch as 2 other people have already beaten Freeza. It won't have that feel good moment. Honestly the only thing Vegeta deserves is to be beaten up again like in other movies. What more development do this character needs that we haven't seen in Cell and Boo arc(Now Vegeta is a gimmick thief). Just wondering. Why do Vegeta deserves to beat Freeza? Even when Vegeta turnt good. It wasn't until BoG that he DEFENDED earth. He usually cost more damage to the Earth than good. Such as killing people.....on purpose....because.....of...a....one....sided...rivalry.

[dbzfan7]

Yeah I give up. Apparently Vegeta deserves payback for some asshole stopping him from being an uncontrolled asshole.

This is anime silly . One good deed suddenly means you're not a selfish prick who used to kill for a living. It also means you're allowed to do no harm and any memory of who you USED to be is erased by every character except yourself and your rival. Vegeta killed a-lot of people at the Tenkaichi Budokai. But after killing himself. That doesn't matter and he still deserve to kill Freeza.

Not that it matters though. Freeza already been beaten by Two Saiyans. Two SUPER Saiyans. If anything this movie will make Vegeta look like a straight bitch as 2 other people have already beaten Freeza. It won't have that feel good moment. Honestly the only thing Vegeta deserves is to be beaten up again like in other movies. What more development do this character needs that we haven't seen in Cell and Boo arc(Now Vegeta is a gimmick thief). Just wondering. Why do Vegeta deserves to beat Freeza? Even when Vegeta turnt good. It wasn't until BoG that he DEFENDED earth. He usually cost more damage to the Earth than good. Such as killing people.....on purpose....because.....of...a....one....sided...rivalry.

Apparently so. I mean Freeza made him be evil, so he deserves to....oh wait...no he didn't. That was a stupid dub line. Silly me. I mean if Freeza wasn't around Vegeta would help his race and....probably....just do what Freeza did...except with him in charge....huh. I mean yeah he deserves to kill Freeza as Freeza made his life miserable. How dare Freeza be an asshole to an equally evil genocidal maniac who also kills his minions and delighted in killing the innocent. Oh wait...hm...something ain't right here. I keep looking back and all I see is just one stronger douchebag being a douchebag to another douchebag. Am I supposed to feel sorry for Vegeta because he couldn't be an uncontrollable douche? Hell once he was free from Freeza, he still was an awful person. If anything without being controlled by Freeza, he'd probably never have been good. He'd never join our heroes if he were the top dog. He would just kill them, and if he somehow escaped if he lost, try to kill them again. He only joined the heroes as he wasn't strong enough on his own to beat Freeza and his lackey's. If he was the strongest he'd never team up with them.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Saiyans are hypocrites in general. Its just that Freeza isn't; which is why hes judged as evil. He stands by his devotion. Vegeta is just so selfish hes flexible.

[JulieYBM]

Unfortunate.
I can live with him doing stuff for Precure and Crystal (since I'm following both I'll get to see his cuts anyway) but I'd rather have him on F.

He is working on something Dragon Ball related, although for all we know he could be helping Yamamuro Tadayoshi with the next Ending for Dragon Ball Kai. For the third Majin Buu arc ending Shida Naotoshi took home an 'Ending Assistance' credit, whatever that means. Who knows, maybe he actually is working on Fukkatsu no F, although I can't imagine he has the time to do much for it if he has all of those other series to work on.

[Chuquita]

Unfortunate.
I can live with him doing stuff for Precure and Crystal (since I'm following both I'll get to see his cuts anyway) but I'd rather have him on F.

He is working on something Dragon Ball related, although for all we know he could be helping Yamamuro Tadayoshi with the next Ending for Dragon Ball Kai. For the third Majin Buu arc ending Shida Naotoshi took home an 'Ending Assistance' credit, whatever that means. Who knows, maybe he actually is working on Fukkatsu no F, although I can't imagine he has the time to do much for it if he has all of those other series to work on.

It'd be extremely disappointing if he doesn't get to work of F, especially after Toriyama was all 'increased the amount of action this time'. T_T

I sure hope he's able to squeeze some time on F in there somehow.

I still feel like I know so little about this movie that I'm not knowledgeable enough on it yet to reach disappointment.

[Low Tone G]

That's so generic though. I'd like to think that Toriyama is more creative than that.

It should at least happen when Final form Freeza challenges them. It would just feel way too redundant if (most likely will be) Goku fighting him for the bulk; Vegeta freaks out and gets thrown off screen for a long time, and then Goku takes over with SSJGod power up out of no where, then Goku wins somehow. Thats boring.

It should be:
- Goku vs Freeza
- Vegeta vs Freeza
- Goku & Vegeta vs Freeza
- Freeza vs Beerus
- Gogeta vs Freeza
- New Form Freeza vs Gogeta
- Vegeta realizing he needs God power.
- New Form Freeza vs Beerus
- Goku & Vegeta training with Whis
- Times Up - Freeza wins briefly & Beerus is somehow immobile
- Vegeta somehow gets a good boost after seperating from Goku and maybe an opening on Freeza from Goku
- Vegeta God vs God Freeza.
- Somehow Vegeta gets the last shot in and Kills him.
- End.

Thats how I'd handle it.

I see it otherwise:

- Freeza's resurrection
- Freeza begins to train
- 2 year after Goku and Vegeta will leave for Whis to ask him to train(Goku will use Instant Trasmission to get there quickly)
- In the mean time Freeza learns about Goku to ascend SSJ-God and orders his minions, Sorbet and Tagoma, to make up something for his further evolution
- 3 Years after BOG: Beerus wakes up and becomes angry on Whis to let those saiyans train in his homeworld and launches a blast just it is seen in the trailer.
- Goku learns that he can develop very slowly even if he trains with Whis
- Vegeta, on the other hand, is able unleash his true potential via sheer will(He can draw that power from BOG's rage moment - I'm speaking about his normal potential, not God potential)
- Freeza returns to Earth, after his minions found a way to access Freeza's further evolution, and they upgrade him, he can power on and off that God(more than likely) power with own will. That sort of incubator will upgrade him from the trailer.
- Piccolo and everyone on Earth learn about his arrival, and Piccolo comments that Freeza is very different league than them(I can see Freeza's power to be on par with Super Vegetto's at that point, in his 1st form)
- Gohan and the others are fighting Freeza's army and defeat them easily, but they don't know about Sorbet and Tagoma
- Whis will tell Goku, Vegeta and Beerus about Freeza to be on Earth and he's perfoming his revenge against the saiyans, and he much stronger then before
- Goku will leave happily to have another good fight but Vegeta orders him to take him too
- Goku will face Freeza, who is very strong but no match for him, though.
- Freeza will show his further evoultion and beats Goku up
- Vegeta will ask Kibitoshin(who is watching the fight along with Old Kaioshin) to teleport there and save them because he has a plan to stop Freeza
- Kibitoshin does so, and Freeza is wondering who was that man.
- With a huge luck, Kibitoshin will manage to teleport them to Sacred World of Kais
- Kibitoshin attempts to heal Goku, but he fails
- Vegeta asks Kibitoshin to take the other saiyans there to perform God ritual
- Whis and Beerus will eventually arrive to Kaioshin Planet.
- Freeza asks his minions to find those saiyans
- They will perform the God ritual and Vegeta will turn out to stronger than God Goku
- Goes back to fight Freeza
- Freeza is still too powerful for Vegeta, but can hold his own somehow
- Whis will make up a plan to stop Freeza
- Vegeta will loose his God form and power too
- Whis will arrive along with Beerus to open a gate for an other universe
- Whis will stop the time to be able to send Freeza in the hole
- Freeza will get to a totally unkown place, a place between to universes, and plans his return
- Sorbet and Tagoma will leave Earth in secret.
- Beerus is angry to not kill Freeza in the past when he had an opportunity.
- Everyone goes home to tell their friends.

[Friezacooler]

And not one single planet or stars has been destroyed in both your post.

[UpFromTheSkies]

This might be what happens...

-Tagoma and Sobet ressurect and train Freeza
-After training, Freeza powers up to his new form and destroys an entire galaxy to test his power, causing such a disturbance that he is sensed by Whis and the other Kaios
-Whis travels to Earth to find Goku and Vegeta, explains to them that Freeza has been resurrected and has achieved power beyond that of Beerus and himself, and that if he isn't stopped he will cause so much destruction that it will throw off the cosmic balance and threaten the existence of the entire universe
-Whis takes Goku and Vegeta back to Beerus' world and creates a bubble around the planet that distorts time, giving them a chance to train with him and Beerus
-Freeza and his army arrive at Earth while Goku and Vegeta are still training
-Freeza senses two powerful ki's that he believes are Goku and Vegeta, but it turns out to be Goten and Trunks
-Kaio-sama contacts Goten and Trunks and tells them that they stand no chance against Freeza and to wait for their fathers to return, but Goten and Trunks don't know who Kaio-sama is and don't trust him, so they decide to fight Freeza in place of their fathers but are quickly defeated
-Freeza orders his army to start killing everyone until Goku and Vegeta come forward
-Kaio-sama contacts the rest of the Z fighters and tells them not to fight Freeza, and to try and hold off his army until Goku and Vegeta return
-Freeza's army is eventually defeated by the Z fighters, which leaves Freeza no choice but to begin fighting himself
-Goku and Vegeta arrive at this point, just in time to witness Freeza's new transformation
-Goku, Vegeta and Beerus fight against Freeza
-Beerus ends up using a self destruct attack against Freeza to weaken him enough for Goku and Vegeta to defeat him
-After the battle is over, Whis tells Goku and Vegeta that after Freeza is purified, he's planning to have him reincarnated as the next God of Destruction

edit: added some more details