The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:24 pm

Darkron2151 wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:LSSJ Broly (Movie Eight) vs. Cell Games MSSJ Gohan
I have this Broly around the same strength as Perfect Cell so....yeah....Broly wins this one rather easily.
PC couldn't even damage Gohan though.

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Post by Angelus » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:06 pm

This already happened in movie 8. Gohan just didn't seem raged enough in that movie.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:08 pm

Angelus wrote:This already happened in movie 8. Gohan just didn't seem raged enough in that movie.
Movie 8 Z-fighters are weaker than the Cell Games ones

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:03 pm

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Darkron2151 wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:LSSJ Broly (Movie Eight) vs. Cell Games MSSJ Gohan
I have this Broly around the same strength as Perfect Cell so....yeah....Broly wins this one rather easily.
PC couldn't even damage Gohan though.
That wasn't Full Power Perfect Cell though. That was Perfect Cell holding back. If the user in question compares Broly to FP Perfect Cell, then Gohan isn't tanking Broly's hits. But if the user is comparing Broly to the Cell that fought Goku, then Broly gets wrecked.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Darkron2151 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:02 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
That wasn't Full Power Perfect Cell though. That was Perfect Cell holding back. If the user in question compares Broly to FP Perfect Cell, then Gohan isn't tanking Broly's hits. But if the user is comparing Broly to the Cell that fought Goku, then Broly gets wrecked.
I meant Full Power Perfect Cell :P .

Also, Here's some Match-Ups:
  • Super Saiyan Goten and Trunks (Buu Arc/Post ROSAT) vs. Super Saiyan Gohan (World Tournament Saga)

    Piccolo (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell (Surpressed Fighting Super Vegeta)

    Super Saiyan Vegeta (Android Saga) vs. Future Android 17 (Full Power)

    Piccolo (Android Saga/ Pre-Merge) vs. 100% Fourth "True" Form Freeza

    Turles (Pre-Fruit) vs. Vegeta (Namek Saga/Post-Zarbon)

    Oozaru Vegeta (Full Power/Saiyan Saga) vs. Ginyu Force *No Tail-Cutting*

    Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (World Tournament Saga/Pre-Majin) vs. "Super" Perfect Cell

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:09 pm

Darkron2151 wrote:Super Saiyan Goten and Trunks (Buu Arc/Post ROSAT) vs. Super Saiyan Gohan (World Tournament Saga)
I think Goten actually surpassed Gohan in the rosat, so Goten and Trunks take it easily
Piccolo (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell (Surpressed Fighting Super Vegeta)
Perfect Cell
Super Saiyan Vegeta (Android Saga) vs. Future Android 17 (Full Power)
17 due to infinite stamina and slight advantage
Piccolo (Android Saga/ Pre-Merge) vs. 100% Fourth "True" Form Freeza
Android arc Piccolo > Yardrat Goku > SS F. Trunks (Mecha) >> Mecha Freeza > 100% Freeza. Piccolo stomps
Tullece (Pre-Fruit) vs. Vegeta (Namek Saga/Post-Zarbon)
Probably Vegeta
Oozaru Vegeta (Full Power/Saiyan Saga) vs. Ginyu Force *No Tail-Cutting*
Uhh, not sure
Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (World Tournament Saga/Pre-Majin) vs. "Super" Perfect Cell
Cell

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:55 pm

1) I think Gohan is stronger and still a more capable fighter than the kids, so he wins.
2) Cell. I think Piccolo is stronger than Semi-Cell, but that's about it.
3) I still think the Future Androids are comfortably above the pre-rosat Super Saiyans, so #17 wins.
4) Piccolo with ease.
5) Probably around the same level. Vegeta after a long fight.
6) The Ginyu Force can't do shit if they're unable to remove his tail. Gurd's powers would also be useless here.
7) I doubt Vegeta's much weaker than Cell, but still weaker nonetheless. Cell would win after a good fight.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:23 am

Base Vegetto [anime] vs. Super Mega Sigma Cannon

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Post by Angelus » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:28 am

Darkron2151 wrote:Super Saiyan Goten and Trunks (Buu Arc/Post ROSAT) vs. Super Saiyan Gohan (World Tournament Saga)
Since it's post ROSAT, the dou takes this.
Piccolo (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell (Surpressed Fighting Super Vegeta)
Still Cell. Piccolo has no way of killing Cell completely like how Gohan did.
Super Saiyan Vegeta (Android Saga) vs. Future Android 17 (Full Power)
Still 17. Even if this Future Android 17 was weaker than the current 17, that would only put this one at a similar level as present Android 18.
Piccolo (Android Saga/ Pre-Merge) vs. 100% Fourth "True" Form Freeza
I'm not too sure but leaning more on Piccolo.
Tullece (Pre-Fruit) vs. Vegeta (Namek Saga/Post-Zarbon)
The movie pamphlet states that Turles has a power level of 19,000 before eating the fruit. Vegeta stomps and he'll love it because Turles looks like Kakkarot.
Oozaru Vegeta (Full Power/Saiyan Saga) vs. Ginyu Force *No Tail-Cutting*
That would be a 180K Vegeta. Ginyu was like what, 120K? Everyone else in the Ginyu force are even much lower than that. If the Ginyu Force manages to blind both of Vegeta's eyes because of Guldo's time stop, I'm not sure how they would be able to finish off Vegeta. Vegeta takes this 8 out of 10. However, if Ginyu uses body changing, and Vegeta being an enormous target... then Ginyu gets a new body while Vegeta tries to get used to Ginyu's old body... but Vegeta won't have enough time to figure out how to use Ginyu's ki.
Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (World Tournament Saga/Pre-Majin) vs. "Super" Perfect Cell
Piccolo said that Majin Vegeta was fighting at the same level Gohan was when he was fighting SPC. Since this is Pre-Majin, I'd say Vegeta would get killed after a long fight, most of the time. Not to mention, SPC has instant transmission now... add that with a Kamehameha combo and, Vegeta is toast.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Base Vegetto [anime] vs. Super Mega Sigma Cannon
Vegito. Base GT Goku beat up the Super Mega Sigma Cannon. Even if GT Haxed base Goku was at Z SSJ3 level, that's still something Vegito can handle.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:34 am

Angelus wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Base Vegetto [anime] vs. Super Mega Sigma Cannon
Vegito. Base GT Goku beat up the Super Mega Sigma Cannon. Even if GT Haxed base Goku was at Z SSJ3 level, that's still something Vegito can handle.
Goku was SSJ 3 tier at the End of Z, he had 5 more years of training with Oob on top of that. Also Goku on m2 > Gohan-Boo.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:38 am

Angelus wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Base Vegetto [anime] vs. Super Mega Sigma Cannon
Vegito. Base GT Goku beat up the Super Mega Sigma Cannon. Even if GT Haxed base Goku was at Z SSJ3 level, that's still something Vegito can handle.
I got one to take this a step further.

Base Vegito (Anime) Vs Final form Metal Rildo on Planet M2. No planet busting either. That's cheating! Also I think Vegito would die due to vacuum if he did that..
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:41 am

voltlunok wrote:I got one to take this a step further.

Base Vegito (Anime) Vs Final form Metal Rildo on Planet M2. No planet busting either. That's cheating! Also I think Vegito would die due to vacuum if he did that..
Vegetto probably needs SSJ to fully handle Rild

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:47 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
voltlunok wrote:I got one to take this a step further.

Base Vegito (Anime) Vs Final form Metal Rildo on Planet M2. No planet busting either. That's cheating! Also I think Vegito would die due to vacuum if he did that..
Vegetto probably needs SSJ to fully handle Rild
Yeah I can concede to that. :)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super SaiyaJon » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:52 am

Goku (Evolution End of Movie) runs a gauntlet of all of the Kid Gokus. How far does he get?
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21st WMAT
RR Army
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And just for the fun, how bad would he loose to GT Kid Goku? Any arc really. How many mincroseconds does he last?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:54 am

Super SaiyaJon wrote:Goku (Evolution End of Movie) runs a gauntlet of all of the Kid Gokus. How far does he get?
Start of Series
21st WMAT
RR Army
Fortuneteller Baba Saga
22nd WMAT
King Piccolo Saga Pre Ultra Divine Water
King Piccolo Saga Post Ultra Divine Water

And just for the fun, how bad would he loose to GT Kid Goku? Any arc really. How many mincroseconds does he last?
I'm not sure how strong he is but GT Goku would end the fight by blinking at Chatku

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:55 am

Super SaiyaJon wrote:Goku (Evolution End of Movie) runs a gauntlet of all of the Kid Gokus. How far does he get?
Start of Series
21st WMAT
RR Army
Fortuneteller Baba Saga
22nd WMAT
King Piccolo Saga Pre Ultra Divine Water
King Piccolo Saga Post Ultra Divine Water

And just for the fun, how bad would he loose to GT Kid Goku? Any arc really. How many mincroseconds does he last?
I think he would make it to RR Army Kid Goku, fight a lengthy battle but succumb to his wounds in the end.

As for the GT Kid Goku question...Dead on eye contact.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:07 pm

Here's one quick one:

Base Goten (First Appearance; can't fly) VS Cell Games Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu
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voltlunok wrote:Base Vegito (Anime) Vs Final form Metal Rildo on Planet M2. No planet busting either. That's cheating! Also I think Vegito would die due to vacuum if he did that..
Rildo. That's too much for Base Vegito. Also, GT hax.
Super SaiyaJon wrote:Goku (Evolution End of Movie) runs a gauntlet of all of the Kid Gokus. How far does he get?
Start of Series
21st WMAT
RR Army
Fortuneteller Baba Saga
22nd WMAT
King Piccolo Saga Pre Ultra Divine Water
King Piccolo Saga Post Ultra Divine Water

And just for the fun, how bad would he loose to GT Kid Goku? Any arc really. How many mincroseconds does he last?
Meh, that Caucasian Goku gets killed off by his RR Army saga self. lol

Well he'll last a second from one hit. I don't think GT Goku is really into stomping people, so he won't even need full power in base. lol

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:48 pm

I have Goten way above all of them. Their only chance at victory would be a Neo Kikoho or something.
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Post by Angelus » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:59 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:I have Goten way above all of them. Their only chance at victory would be a Neo Kikoho or something.
So Tien spamming that technique, the same way he did to Cell, at Goten would be a sure victory?

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:11 pm

Yes. Since Goten is way weaker than Semi-Cell, it'd be way more effective.
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