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Post by FindKenshi » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:04 pm

I want to know everything there is to know about Freeza.. his home/planet, his species, his family, how old he is, full explanation about his transformations, why his dad is stuck in the 2nd form but his true form looks so different, why they are so powerful, also do you guys think Chilled and Kuriza will show up in the film?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:17 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Demigra?
Demigra.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:18 pm

FindKenshi wrote:Ifull explanation about his transformations
They're regressions. He claims not to be able to fully control his power.
FindKenshi wrote:why his dad is stuck in the 2nd form but his true form looks so different
We don't know if Cold was only in his second form, we only speculate because he looks similar to Freeza's second form.
They planned to fight a legendary warrior, so it would make more sense for him to be at full power.
FindKenshi wrote:also do you guys think Chilled and Kuriza will show up in the film?
RoF is said to be an official continuation. EoB was based off of Ooishi's spinoff manga with no input from Toriyama outside of Chilled's design.
FindKenshi wrote:why they are so powerful
They're mutants. According to Toriyama, they're the only two of their kind with such power, and they reproduce asexually.
About how many of Freeza’s race are there? Are they quite thriving, with a big population?
Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form. Strictly speaking, Freeza’s father is a mutant with an abnormally high battle power. And, born from his father alone, still in strong possession of the mutant traits, was Freeza.
Accordingly, even saying “Freeza’s race”, these two are the only ones who possess an abnormal [level of] battle power and cruelty.
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Post by FindKenshi » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:24 pm

FatNagger69 wrote:They're regressions. He claims not to be able to fully control his power.
That still doesn't explain why his suppressed form looks like an altogether different species. Also I don't remember him saying they were 'regressions,' you mean like evolutionarily speaking? As in his suppressed forms are lower rungs on Freeza's evolutionary ladder?
FatNagger69 wrote:We don't know if Cold was only in his second form, we only speculate because it looks similar to Freeza's second form.
It's a good speculation to make though, but the only differences between it and Freeza's 2nd form are that there's no lines on his arms/legs.
FatNagger69 wrote:They planned to fight a legendary warrior, so it would make more sense for him to be at full power.
Actually Cold had doubts of the threat all along, he was arrogant just like Freeza.
FatNagger69 wrote:RoF is said to be an official continuation. EoB was based off of Ooishi's spinoff manga with no input from Toriyama outside of Chilled's design. Kuriza is possible I suppose, but that was in the spirit of a spinoff as well.
Wat? Episode of Bardock "doesn't count?" That's so disappointing! I'm going to consider it fanon anyway.
About how many of Freeza’s race are there? Are they quite thriving, with a big population?
Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form. Strictly speaking, Freeza’s father is a mutant with an abnormally high battle power. And, born from his father alone, still in strong possession of the mutant traits, was Freeza.
Accordingly, even saying “Freeza’s race”, these two are the only ones who possess an abnormal [level of] battle power and cruelty.
This was a fake interview, right? I remember this being debunked as fake... I think it's even on Daizenshuu Kanzenshuu rumor guide or something
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:29 pm

FatNagger69 wrote:RoF is said to be an official continuation. EoB was based off of Ooishi's spinoff manga with no input from Toriyama outside of Chilled's design.
He designed the Plantaen race too.
FatNagger69 wrote:They're mutants. According to Toriyama, they're the only two of their kind with such power, and they reproduce asexually.
That's debatable, as mentioned by Julian on Kanzenshuu's translation: "It is unclear whether Toriyama means Freeza was born from only one parent, or emphasizing that only Cold carried [the mutant] traits."
FindKenshi wrote:Also I don't remember him saying they were 'regressions,' you mean like evolutionarily speaking? As in his suppressed forms are lower rungs on Freeza's evolutionary ladder?
They are transformations, technically. The implication is that he wasn't born with them though, He just developed them to transform into weaker forms though, because he couldn't control his power.
FindKenshi wrote:This was a fake interview, right? I remember this being debunked as fake... I think it's even on Daizenshuu Kanzenshuu rumor guide or something
No, it's very real.
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Post by FindKenshi » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:34 pm

Wow, but I remember that same tidbit about Cold being a mutant and Freeza being one as well, and them being the only two of their race being in the fake "Super Otaku Magazine!" interviews... Either biggest coincidence ever, or they mixed some real stuff in with the fake???
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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:35 pm

FindKenshi wrote:Also I don't remember him saying they were 'regressions,' you mean like evolutionarily speaking? As in his suppressed forms are lower rungs on Freeza's evolutionary ladder?
I only mean that they're lower forms that seal off and/or conserve his ki.
FindKenshi wrote:Actually Cold had doubts of the threat all along, he was arrogant just like Freeza.
In the manga he never really expresses any doubt that I can remember. In fact, he says that he plans to choke the life out of him no matter the cost, to which Freeza responds that the two of them together could take him easily.
FindKenshi wrote:Wat? Episode of Bardock "doesn't count?" That's so disappointing! I'm going to consider it fanon anyway.
You liked it? To each their own, I suppose.
FindKenshi wrote:This was a fake interview, right? I remember this being debunked as fake... I think it's even on Daizenshuu Kanzenshuu rumor guide or something
No, it's from the EoB Super Q&A. I was too lazy to get a link and just pulled it from my clipboard.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:That's debatable, as mentioned by Julian on Kanzenshuu's translation: "It is unclear whether Toriyama means Freeza was born from only one parent, or emphasizing that only Cold carried [the mutant] traits."
Never noticed that. I wish I could look at the original text.
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Post by FindKenshi » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:15 pm

So would you guys be happier if Beerus is the one who made Freeza stronger, and he does it on purpose as part of Goku's training? I just read this theory on a different site and now I'm convinced that's what it's actually going to be.
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Post by Zelvin » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:17 pm

I don't think Toriyama ever expressly said Freeza's race was asexual. I believe he meant that Freeza had no siblings. Effectively making Cooler completely non-canon (like we always knew).
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:17 pm

No. Given Beerus' remark about killing Freeza himself the next time he saw him in Battle of Gods, I'd actually hate it if him or Whis were the ones who made Freeza stronger. I like them, I don't want them to act like that kind of idiot.
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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:24 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:To the people asking why Goku wouldn't ask for a good reincarnation of Freeza over Kid Buu, it's pretty obvious. lol.

Kid Buu likely never once trained in his life either, and he is infinitely stronger than an untrained Freeza! If Freeza can achieve god level by training, just imagine what Kid Buu's potential is. Combine that with his insane natural abilities, which include absolute healing, rapid regeneration, body manipulation, insane fighting IQ (i.e. learning how to fight while fighting, and using Ki attacks after seeing them once), candy beams, and so on. Uub may be human, but, if written correctly, he can easily be the most powerful being in the universe--of course, not outright after training since he doesn't even know his own origins--going by the logic of this film.
Buu is a cosmic being of pure evil ki. Uub is the opposite within a human body. Its possible to assume that if Uub is anything like an Indian deity, he has all the power at his disposal if not greater with Goku's influence,similar to Gohan's potential but through what ever "Majin" can be expanded to. If Toriyama were to even adapt Majuub into progessing a somewhat near pseudo-god tier; It would make sense. Toriyama has a lot of potential with this direction if he were to not exclusify the God attributes and accessibility to Saiyans but to expand it for everyone.
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Post by MCDaveG » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:49 pm

Man, Maximum The Hormone as an insert song?!!!
No way, I don't believe that after these years, I won't be hearing unbearable cheesy songs from ''good looking'' boy bands in an anime work.

I am so happy by this message, because that song was for me one of the little few recent Japanese songs that I could listen to.... no weird techno, para para, j-pop or love rock :)
I am so happy...
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Post by Jackal puFF » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:50 pm

Krillin looks great but at the same time really funny. What kind of police uniform is a green shirt and purple shorts rofl. His bike scooter thing is really neat though. Dang I was kinda hoping he was training with Goku and Vegeta too.. I guess he shaved his head for the cop gig. I hope we get too see Tien as a farmer next and I really hope there's a cameo of Lunch in this movie. I miss her.

If the F song is in the movie it would match the metal in the dub movies. :lol:

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Post by Friezacooler » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:52 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:No. Given Beerus' remark about killing Freeza himself the next time he saw him in Battle of Gods, I'd actually hate it if him or Whis were the ones who made Freeza stronger. I like them, I don't want them to act like that kind of idiot.
lol judging from the trailer it is Beerus or Gohan sparing with Freeza I think the former.

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Post by FindKenshi » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:54 pm

Friezacooler wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:No. Given Beerus' remark about killing Freeza himself the next time he saw him in Battle of Gods, I'd actually hate it if him or Whis were the ones who made Freeza stronger. I like them, I don't want them to act like that kind of idiot.
lol judging from the trailer it is Beerus or Gohan sparing with Freeza I think the former.
Wait ur talking about the scene that shows Goku, Vegeta, and Whis looking up in the sky shielding their eyes from a blinding light, right?
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Post by Friezacooler » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:57 pm

FindKenshi wrote:
Friezacooler wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:No. Given Beerus' remark about killing Freeza himself the next time he saw him in Battle of Gods, I'd actually hate it if him or Whis were the ones who made Freeza stronger. I like them, I don't want them to act like that kind of idiot.
lol judging from the trailer it is Beerus or Gohan sparing with Freeza I think the former.
Wait ur talking about the scene that shows Goku, Vegeta, and Whis looking up in the sky shielding their eyes from a blinding light, right?
Yep that part of the trailer.

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Post by Avenged » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:58 pm

MCDaveG wrote:Man, Maximum The Hormone as an insert song?!!!
No way, I don't believe that after these years, I won't be hearing unbearable cheesy songs from ''good looking'' boy bands in an anime work.

I am so happy by this message, because that song was for me one of the little few recent Japanese songs that I could listen to.... no weird techno, para para, j-pop or love rock :)
I am so happy...
Thought it just said the movie title came from the song, nothing more.
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Post by FindKenshi » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:59 pm

Friezacooler wrote: Yep that part of the trailer.
That's what I thought too. That scene must be Freeza and Beerus fighting. Beerus must get damaged, and then Goku has to take over. That's just how strong Freeza is, now.
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:00 pm

Avenged wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:Man, Maximum The Hormone as an insert song?!!!
No way, I don't believe that after these years, I won't be hearing unbearable cheesy songs from ''good looking'' boy bands in an anime work.

I am so happy by this message, because that song was for me one of the little few recent Japanese songs that I could listen to.... no weird techno, para para, j-pop or love rock :)
I am so happy...
Thought it just said the movie title came from the song, nothing more.
Nope, it's gonna be in the film as well. :D
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/01/04/re ... sert-song/
Best news ever. I was gonna be genuinely disappointed if it didn't show up in some capacity.

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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:08 pm

Very excited about this. I'm sure the dub fans will be too!

Is the song being in the movie itself mentioned anywhere on the picture used?
Nothing jumps out at me, and I'm too lazy to piece the whole thing together.
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