Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:39 am

JulieYBM wrote:The comic looks nothing special. Any number of the animators who worked on the Toriko TV series are better artists.
Maybe, but the manga is still superior in the end of the day.
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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by Mosaic » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:49 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:So basically, what I'm trying to say is... Toei animation suck. :thumbdown:
What's a shame is that they create such wonderful series with great staff, but they always seem to cut corners compared to other companies. No matter what decade it is.

Anyway, I'm surprise someone is actually upset Sailor Moon is getting reanimated, but not Dragon Ball Z. Sailor Moon pretty much died in 1997. The Dragon Ball Z anime continuity has continued to stay alive today. There are plenty of games, movies, and TV specials that Sailor Moon doesn't have.

Also Crystal is absolute trash. Saying Crystal is "good", is like saying the food at McDonald's is "good".

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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by Ajay » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:31 pm

Mosaic wrote:Also Crystal is absolute trash. Saying Crystal is "good", is like saying the food at McDonald's is "good".
The food at McDonald's is delicious though.

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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by omegalucas » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:26 pm

Quebaz wrote: Didn't we get Sailor Moon from Japan? Also we're also getting One Piece again from France this time instead of Spain (and it seems like they're bringing Fernanda Figueiredo back? Not sure on this one). COME ON PORTUGAL, YOU'RE GETTING 2 SERIES FROM TOEI, WHERE'S MY BOG CINEMA RELEASE!? *ahem* If Crystal is dubbed by the same studio who's dubbing One Piece (112 Studios) it will turn out good, they do have a large pool of actors based on their portfolio (they somehow got Rogério Jacques and Bruno Ferreira to come back for One Piece after its original dub in 2003), and their dubs have been pretty good.
Puto wrote:Yeah, we (Portugal) got Sailor Moon straight from Japan back then. Mind you, the dub was terrible for a multitude of reasons, but translating from another dub was not one of them. I can confirm it was dubbed based on English translations provided by Toei (I know a guy who worked on a recent Polish re-translation of Sailor Moon (for voiceover purposes, I think) who was given those same scripts, and there were some translation quirks that were also shared by the Portuguese dub. One notable one was Beryl's name being rendered as Peril).

And re: Portugal getting SMC, the source was Danno (who's a trustworthy guy from what I've seen of him before), who e-mailed Dreamia (the company behind Panda and Biggs) asking stuff about possible series.
I think my brain stopped working there for a bit, because I was aware our dub was based on the Japanese version. Probably was thinking about DB (and the whole "except this time that is good news" was aimed at DB)...
And if Crystal gets done by the company behind One Piece's dub it will probably have some voice actors from the original because I think Mamoru's portuguese voice actor is voicing someone from OP (Usopp maybe?).
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:31 pm

Mamoru and Pegasus Seiya had the same voice actor in Portugal, but he didn't dub Yamcha unfortunately.
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Post by Mosaic » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:34 pm

Puto wrote:Yeah, we (Portugal) got Sailor Moon straight from Japan back then. Mind you, the dub was terrible for a multitude of reasons, but translating from another dub was not one of them. I can confirm it was dubbed based on English translations provided by Toei (I know a guy who worked on a recent Polish re-translation of Sailor Moon (for voiceover purposes, I think) who was given those same scripts, and there were some translation quirks that were also shared by the Portuguese dub. One notable one was Beryl's name being rendered as Peril).
This is very common. Somebody from the Swedish staff also confirmed they were given horrible English scripts. Toei does this for nearly everything. The scripts have awful grammar, dated phrases, usually completely changed or mistranslated names, and are quite dated. I worked on the US release for Devilman, and the scripts we were given were the same Italy had.

A lot of names for later characters, like the Witches 5 were mistranslated in pretty much every country, so it's safe to assume Toei was behind it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were behind some goofs in the Dragon Ball Z release too. (like "Launch" or "Tienshinhan")

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Post by Super Sonic » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:51 pm

With the talk of Swedish dub, did they do name changes or did they keep the original Japanese names for the characters. Funny enough, Sailor Moon was one of the first North American dubs where the names (of the important main characters) were close enough to the original or related in some pun for the old dub.

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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:00 am

I don't see how Lita and Darien are any similar to Makoto or Mamoru.
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Post by Super Sonic » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:16 am

Lita is the name of one of the planet Jupiter's many moons. And Darien means "guardian" which kinda fits his role.

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Post by Mosaic » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:33 am

Super Sonic wrote:With the talk of Swedish dub, did they do name changes or did they keep the original Japanese names for the characters. Funny enough, Sailor Moon was one of the first North American dubs where the names (of the important main characters) were close enough to the original or related in some pun for the old dub.
I'm pretty sure the Swedish names were mostly the same. I just remember Usagi being called "Annie".

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:51 am

Even though I'm happy the anime finally got a decent dub, Sailor Moon will always be Serena to me. Same with all the dub names lol

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:32 pm

Quebaz wrote: Didn't we get Sailor Moon from Japan? Also we're also getting One Piece again from France this time instead of Spain (and it seems like they're bringing Fernanda Figueiredo back? Not sure on this one). COME ON PORTUGAL, YOU'RE GETTING 2 SERIES FROM TOEI, WHERE'S MY BOG CINEMA RELEASE!?
This will always be a pertinent question from now on.
In 2014 Christmas, Panda Biggs aired: The Legend of Shenron. I got suprrised when I was zapping and saw that. Not only because I was caught off guard but because of the movie choice too. Now, DB is sarting again in SiC K under the name: Dragon Ball - The Beginning.

One Piece is back and we're are getting Sailor Moon Cristal. Probably, Sic Radical will get DB Kai Buu arc down the road too.
So yeah, that's a logic question.

I asked that question to Ricardo Spinola and Henrique Feist in Iberanime 2014 and they just said it would be difficult. They didn't seem interested either.
Take that as you want.

Using Disney/Dreamworks Movies as reference, I doubt BOG would do worse than Big Hero 6 or Frozen around here for example.
Makes me think if Antonio Semedo was still alive, this would be happening or not.
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Post by coola » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:14 pm

Sailor Moon Crystal will air on Japanese TV starting April this year, i wonder if it gonna take Buu Kai slot? http://crystalcomparisons.com/act7/ Why, why they had to kill one of few jokes with Umino? Why Toei? :evil:
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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:22 pm

coola wrote:Sailor Moon Crystal will air on Japanese TV starting April this year, i wonder if it gonna take Buu Kai slot? http://crystalcomparisons.com/act7/ Why, why they had to kill one of few jokes with Umino? Why Toei? :evil:
I doubt it. TV Asahi produced the previous series. With World Trigger scheduled for four cours Digimon Adventure tri won't be able to take back its slot, so for it to replace Dragon Ball Kai makes more sense, as the first five series had aired in the 9AM Sunday slot on Fuji TV.
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Post by coola » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:33 pm

Final episode of Dark Kingdom saga ended, and, after dissapointed that last 2 episodes were, I'm pleasantly surprised, i really enjoyed it, pacing was great, and almost no still shots, and seeing Human Luna make me hope that we gonna see rest of arcs adapted as well (In manga, Luna appeared in human form, in Kaguya special, while Artemis in SuperS) too bad we have to wait until 7th February to see Black Moon cast. I hope they gonna improve animation, through hearing about director blocking comments on Twitter make me think, that nothing gonna change. And please, no changes from manga, when character dies in manga, it should die.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:40 pm

I was also happy with the pacing this week. Giving the events of the plot time to breathe really does help. :D
Blocking twitter comments makes me sad. :( I didn't know that was happening.
Human Luna was cool, especially nice to get to see her when we don't know if Crystal will last long enough to reach the point at which she originally first appears.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:44 pm

Dark Kingdom 2014 was alright, better than Kai's handling of the Saiyan Arc arc at least.:P

Still, my favorite version is the the Toku PGSM. I think it handled Dark Kingdom the best.
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Post by coola » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:45 pm

http://www.madman.com.au/news/an-update ... n-release/ Funny, Madman released unchanged DBZ Movies and Blu-Ray season sets, but wth Sailor Moon, they will do their own remasters
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Post by coola » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:09 am

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Post by Kid Buu » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:48 am

Toru Furuya for Dimande hopefully.

I do think it is funny that Furuya still voices Yamcha, but all his other famous roles have been recast.
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