What are you talking about?
You just said he wouldn't know something unless someone told him he could know it. I'd like proof of this claim.
The script is still written by Toriyama, and anything not by Toriyama is approved by him. Either way, the things that Toriyama didn't do for the movie (animation, fighting choreographies, etc) are irrelevant to this topic.
Toriyama approved GT too.
Prove that Toriyama wrote the specific line that Vegeta was a good guy, and prove that he wrote it with the intent of Vegeta being a good guy rather than the ritual being fucked as Roshi and Buu speculated.
He didn't have a thought process before the punch, and looked surprised himself after the punch, the panel in the manga directly after the punch makes it pretty clear.
He didn't look surprised to me. He lacked the "!!!" over his head, which almost always appear when a character is surprised.
The first two were in Cell arc, weren't they? Because I'm not arguing about that part of the story. And he didn't punch Trunks just to be a dick, do you have any idea about martial arts?
They were. My original post was referencing post-Namek Vegeta as a whole. He's consistently portrayed as a violent murderer and abusive father. He hadn't even hugged his 8 year old son before the Majin Buu arc. What does that tell you?
I do. Trunks wasn't training for martial arts. He didn't want to train for martial arts. He was taking his father up on an offer, and it should go without saying that the implicit agreement in that statement ("try to touch me while I dodge and I'll give you a reward") is that Vegeta won't punch his much smaller and weaker son full force in the face hard enough to leave a large bruise and make him cry. Doing so is generally seen as frown-worthy behavior. "I never said I WOULDN'T hit you" is just complete bullshit.
I really doubt he had anything else in his mind other than "fight Goku!"
Exactly. Hence, he gives zero shits about his family compared to stuff he actually wants. Like stroking his own ego. Or fighting Goku.
This is what an obsession is, it's like a decease, but it doesn't make you an evil person.
Murdering hundreds of people and laughing about it doesn't make him an evil person. Right...
It's not "for the lulz", it's for a very good reason in his opinion. He may be wrong, but that doesn't make him evil, he believes he is doing the right thing.
No he doesn't. Bringing Gohan- or fusing into Gogeta- will result in them instantly winning. He knows this. He still chooses to gamble everyone's lives against their consent
anyway, partly because he wants them to take responsibility for
his bad deeds, and partly out of pride.
Why?
Because he's not omniscient, and even if he was, him not classing Vegeta as one of the "really, REALLY bad guys" is so vague that it's meaningless as any form of proof.
For the last 4 years, Vegeta hadn't killed anyone, didn't want to kill anyone,
Oh my god, really? Well, obviously he must be a good person then!
had apparently regretted for his past sins (or else Porunga wouldn't have brought him back)
Nope. There's zero proof of that, and he never shows an ounce of remorse.
and he protected the Earth when he had to,
Nope, he repeatedly endangered the Earth to stroke his own ego.
and even placed the Earth above his pride.
Nope. If he was really placing the Earth above his pride, he would have fused with Goku.
Of course it would have been questioned in-universe, the guy was a mass-murderer, and since Vegeta doesn't show his feelings other than his mean side, they know him mostly for being an asshole.
They know him for being an evil mass murdering asshole because he
is an evil mass murdering asshole.
Saiga wrote:In the Boo arc, he starts off being a lot more amiable than usual and is helping them fight Babidi's minions. Turning Majin is a huge hindrance, A+ liability right there, but from that point on basically everyone fucks up just as hard as him, so that by the end there's hardly anyone who can say "this is your fault, Vegeta" without being a hypocrite. Of all the fuck ups in the arc, Vegeta at least breaks even. Sure, he's only helping clean up the mess he partially created, but that's true for Goku as well. Other characters simply don't make up for their mistakes in the arc.
I'm pretty sure anyone in that arc except Goku could rightfully say "this is your fault, Vegeta".