Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

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Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by RazorX » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:38 pm

General Discussion for Dragon Ball Kai episode 138, aired 18 January 2015

オバケでブウ退治 必殺!カミカゼアタック!!
Obake de Bū Taiji Hissatsu! Kamikaze Atakku!!
Buu Eliminated With Ghosts — A Surefire Kamikaze Attack!!


Looks like 4 new pieces of music in this episode.

One where Gotenks and Buu clash mid air, one where Gotenks chases Buu after being thrown into the bath, another during a Super Kamikazi Ghost attack, and when Gotenks and the ghosts are planning to fool Buu.

If they have been played before, feel free to correct me, but they seem new to me.

Either way, music placements are getting really good. I especially liked that dark theme played when Super Buu revived himself from the barrage of ghost attacks towards the end of the episode, it seems to be Super Buu's theme.
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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by DBZ_Lee » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:41 pm

They sounded new to me too. I really liked the music, like you say, it does seem to be getting better by the week. 22 episodes remain, exactly 10 to cut.

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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by RazorX » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:53 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:They sounded new to me too. I really liked the music, like you say, it does seem to be getting better by the week. 22 episodes remain, exactly 10 to cut.
It's like a deja vu of the Ocean dubbed Fusion saga, where pretty much every episode Ocean would be giving us new pieces of music, sometimes even 6-10 pieces per episode! I really like the parallel since I really like the Keenlyside et all and Sumitomo music.

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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by TheRed259 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:12 pm

Actually, the new pieces of music were only two: The ''Vegeta Enraged'' theme from BoG which played twice and that silly track when the ghosts are planning to defeat Buu.

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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by ShinGaijin » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:46 pm

RazorX wrote:It's like a deja vu of the Ocean dubbed Fusion saga, where pretty much every episode Ocean would be giving us new pieces of music, sometimes even 6-10 pieces per episode! I really like the parallel since I really like the Keenlyside et all and Sumitomo music.
Cannot agree more.Not to mention another interesting parallel :
And also, Toei...what have you done ? Seriously ? C'mon.

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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by JEFFMAN219 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:32 am

ShinGaijin wrote:
RazorX wrote:It's like a deja vu of the Ocean dubbed Fusion saga, where pretty much every episode Ocean would be giving us new pieces of music, sometimes even 6-10 pieces per episode! I really like the parallel since I really like the Keenlyside et all and Sumitomo music.
Cannot agree more.Not to mention another interesting parallel :
And also, Toei...what have you done ? Seriously ? C'mon.
Wow what was the point of removing the middle finger for? Toei is censoring random things in this version of Kai.

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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by MagicBox » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:53 am

JEFFMAN219 wrote:Toei is censoring random things in this version of Kai.
I wouldn't really call it "random." Random would be if they... oh, I dunno... redrew a shot of Majin Buu with his arms crossed while he's talking to the blind kid.

It's obvious why they're censoring stuff like nudity, exploding heads, and middle fingers. We know what the targets are going to be, so it's not exactly surprising to see them removed.
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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:54 am

ShinGaijin wrote:And also, Toei...what have you done ? Seriously ? C'mon.
What was point of them keeping this scene if there were just going to blatantly edit out the middle finger? I mean it's so obvious that's the case. This better be un-edited on the home video releases, or I'm gonna raise hell. Because this is getting beyond ridiculous.

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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by Kendamu » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:43 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
ShinGaijin wrote:And also, Toei...what have you done ? Seriously ? C'mon.
What was point of them keeping this scene if there were just going to blatantly edit out the middle finger? I mean it's so obvious that's the case. This better be un-edited on the home video releases, or I'm gonna raise hell. Because this is getting beyond ridiculous.
All the other middle fingers in Kai have been edited out so far. Why would they suddenly stop editing them now?

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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by sangofe » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:28 am

ShinGaijin wrote:
RazorX wrote:It's like a deja vu of the Ocean dubbed Fusion saga, where pretty much every episode Ocean would be giving us new pieces of music, sometimes even 6-10 pieces per episode! I really like the parallel since I really like the Keenlyside et all and Sumitomo music.
Cannot agree more.Not to mention another interesting parallel :
And also, Toei...what have you done ? Seriously ? C'mon.
Noooooooo. This is ridiculous!

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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by Puto » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:48 am

I have a feeling that the International version will keep the middle finger intact. If somebody from France can check the episode when it airs tomorrow, would appreciate if somebody could tell me if I'm right or not.
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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by Valerius Dover » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:09 am

^That depends on how Babidi's middle finger was handled. Was that censored or removed entirely?
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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:23 am

Every time I check back in on Kai they're doing something wrong.
I'll reserve final judgement for the Blurays.
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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by gameleon » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:27 am

Censoring middle fingers has been a thing since early Kai:
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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by Ajay » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:35 am

FatNagger69 wrote:Every time I check back in on Kai they're doing something wrong.
Yeah, the show is beyond help. Everything is so wrong.

Terrible music. Terrible music placement. Terrible editing. Terrible remaster.

What show am I meant to be watching again?

How on earth did we go from Shunsuke Kikuchi to a piss-poor, unfitting Kazuki Muraoka wannabe?!

The original for comparison - http://webmup.com/vFdTy/ (excuse the low volume)

Man, at least Yamamoto's music felt like Dragon Ball to an extent. Heck, even Takaki in all of its genericism still managed to feel like the show.

I'm sorry to sound like a broken record but I just don't understand the positivity I see in these threads.

Though I guess it's because most people who don't enjoy it simply don't bother to tune in now and then.
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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by Cold Skin » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:51 am

They censored the middle finger again... and I couldn't care less.
Seriously, that's the kind of detail that we might as well say goodbye to (it's even a welcome change when they take it out for Vegeta on Namek, as it was always terribly out of place).

But feel free to mention how TERRIBLY IMPORTANT a middle finger is, I guess it's something irreplaceable that increases a show's value and that all of nowadays' best shows have.

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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:33 am

@Ajay: I don't hate Sumitomo's score, but it's strange. I don't love or hate him. I don't love or hate Kikuchi, either. The only Dragon Ball score I fully enjoyed was Yamamoto's, so needless to say I was heartbroken when the whole scandal went down.

Flaws aside, for better or worse, this (or the international cut) is what I'm going to be watching in four years. Last year's rewatch assured me that I can't sit through uncut Dragon Ball Z anymore, in any language.
Cold Skin wrote:But feel free to mention how TERRIBLY IMPORTANT a middle finger is.
How dare we disapprove of censorship in a show we love. Was this your response to Raditz's death scene?
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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by sangofe » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:54 am

Valerius Dover wrote:^That depends on how Babidi's middle finger was handled. Was that censored or removed entirely?
Which episode is that in the international channel?

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Re: Kai Episode 138 (18 January 2015)

Post by DBZ_Lee » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:01 am

sangofe wrote:
Valerius Dover wrote:^That depends on how Babidi's middle finger was handled. Was that censored or removed entirely?
Which episode is that in the international channel?
International Kai #134 (Majin Buu Saga #36)

I do know that the scene where two civilians were shot dead by the gunmen were removed from the French broadcast, so the best we can hope for is that the home video release will be uncut.


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