Is there anyway Future Trunks...

[In Brightest Day]

1). Awakened Android #16. Maybe in order to have a bit of back up in case other threats ever came to Earth or to help with the planets recovery (Yes, just like in Dragonball-Multiverse).

2). Used the ROSAT again?

3). Perhaps got some of the Z-Senshi that were still alive (Yajirobe - in case he didn't die, and Muten-Rôshi) to resume training in order to possibly help with future threats too (I don't have high hopes for this one).

4). Traveled to Planet Namek in order to make Dende the new Guardian and/or revive Son Gohan?


... Once he had destroyed the Androids and Cell in his timeline?

[EmmaWinters]

1). Awakened Android #16.

No. If 16 even existed in his time, there's no way he would risk activating him.

2). Used the ROSAT again?

He would gain nothing from going back in a third time.
He'd be better off asking his mother to build him a gravity room.

3). Perhaps got some of the Z-Senshi that were still alive ... (I don't have high hopes for this one).

Rightfully so. They're dead, and even if they weren't, they're too far beneath him to help him train.

4). Traveled to Planet Namek in order to make Dende the new Guardian and/or revive Son Gohan?

This is the only maybe. I always wondered why they never went there and instead built a time machine.

[fadeddreams5]

He probably never went to New Namek because:
A. No idea where it even is.
B. By the time he got there and came back, everyone on Earth would be dead.

[EmmaWinters]

Kaiō could have found it for him, but he never bothers to contact Trunks for some reason.
If Bulma can build him a time machine, she can replicate God's ship.

[ZazamPow]

Kaiō could have found it for him, but he never bothers to contact Trunks for some reason.
If Bulma can build him a time machine, she can replicate God's ship.

IIRC they got the coordinates to Namek from Popo via Kami. New Namek was somewhere else in the universe, and in the future timeline they didn't have Popo or Kami to find it.

And to be fair, King Kai is in charge of a whole quadrant of the universe, Earth is just another planet and he probably sees planets get conquered/destroyed fairly regularly. Goku was his student and friend, which is why he occasionally talked to him, but Trunks wasn't.

[soulnova]

Even if they somehow had New Namek's coordinates, given Capsule Corp seemed to have been attacked previously by the Androids, I don't believe they had enough technology and resources to build another spaceship. It took Bulma around 16 years to build the car sized time machine.

[In Brightest Day]

Rightfully so. They're dead, and even if they weren't, they're too far beneath him to help him train.

Roshi was still alive. Yajirobe wasn't confirmed dead in the Manga.

By the time he got there and came back, everyone on Earth would be dead.

Who would be dead? Trunks had already destroyed Cell and the Androids.

Even if they somehow had New Namek's coordinates, given Capsule Corp seemed to have been attacked previously by the Androids, I don't believe they had enough technology and resources to build another spaceship. It took Bulma around 16 years to build the car sized time machine.

I don't think the size of the Time Machine is a reflection of anything. It took her 16 years because it's a god damn Time Machine.

[Lord Beerus]

Even if they somehow had New Namek's coordinates, given Capsule Corp seemed to have been attacked previously by the Androids, I don't believe they had enough technology and resources to build another spaceship. It took Bulma around 16 years to build the car sized time machine.

Wait... it took Bulma that long to build a time machine!? Holy shit that was long. Wasn't she able to build a scouter drone on a desert island with basically scraps of metal is the space of less an hour or so? I would have thought it would only take her a year or so to build a time machine.

[EmmaWinters]

IIRC they got the coordinates to Namek from Popo via Kami.

He gets their location from Kaiō both times.

Spoiler:

[FoolsGil]

1). Awakened Android #16. Maybe in order to have a bit of back up in case other threats ever came to Earth or to help with the planets recovery (Yes, just like in Dragonball-Multiverse).

2). Used the ROSAT again?

3). Perhaps got some of the Z-Senshi that were still alive (Yajirobe - in case he didn't die, and Muten-Rôshi) to resume training in order to possibly help with future threats too (I don't have high hopes for this one).

4). Traveled to Planet Namek in order to make Dende the new Guardian and/or revive Son Gohan?


... Once he had destroyed the Androids and Cell in his timeline?

1) He's not exactly a fan of Androids, and I doubt he would look for one to assist restoration of his timeline.

2) The more the Main timeline deviated from the Mirai Timeline, the less tools that the Mirai Timeline had to have had on hand. If the ROSAT was available in the main timeline and would get the Saiyans stronger, then in the future the ROSAT would have to have been made inoperable somehow.

3) I do believe I've seen an image of Yajirobe being killed by the Androids. I am optimistic about teaching a new generation of students-teach them all the most dangerous lethal attacks in the series, and they could stall for time until Trunks shows up.

4) Only Goku knows where New Planet Namek is, and apparently King Kai has decided he won't assist Goku in passing the information to Bulma-nothing personal, but King Kai's assistance in Earth only happened because his students were from there. With them dead, and with the Androids not affecting the northern quadrant of the galaxy, there is no reason King Kai would pop up out of the blue to help. Also, if you feel the Cooler movies are in your definition of canon, the Gete Star had long ago ate New Namek and the inhabitants.

[EmmaWinters]

Rightfully so. They're dead, and even if they weren't, they're too far beneath him to help him train.

Roshi was still alive. Yajirobe wasn't confirmed dead in the Manga.

Only in the anime, unless a guidebook or something that I'm not aware of says otherwise.

[In Brightest Day]

Isn't the burden of proof on you here? We have a list of characters killed by the Androids from Trunks in the Manga, and neither Yajirobe or Roshi made that list.

[SilverArmada]

Even if they somehow had New Namek's coordinates, given Capsule Corp seemed to have been attacked previously by the Androids, I don't believe they had enough technology and resources to build another spaceship. It took Bulma around 16 years to build the car sized time machine.

Wait... it took Bulma that long to build a time machine!? Holy shit that was long. Wasn't she able to build a scouter drone on a desert island with basically scraps of metal is the space of less an hour or so? I would have thought it would only take her a year or so to build a time machine.

In Bulma's defense, working out the physics of time travel itself and creating the mechanism for time travel probably took up the majority of the time she worked on the time machine, not building the outer shell. Also, do we know how long Bulma worked on the time machine? It's implied that it took some decent length of time but it's not clear that she started as soon as everyone was killed by the androids.

1). Awakened Android #16. Maybe in order to have a bit of back up in case other threats ever came to Earth or to help with the planets recovery (Yes, just like in Dragonball-Multiverse).

2). Used the ROSAT again?

3). Perhaps got some of the Z-Senshi that were still alive (Yajirobe - in case he didn't die, and Muten-Rôshi) to resume training in order to possibly help with future threats too (I don't have high hopes for this one).

4). Traveled to Planet Namek in order to make Dende the new Guardian and/or revive Son Gohan?

... Once he had destroyed the Androids and Cell in his timeline?

1. I don't think so. Even after returning from the past where he knew android 16, I think Trunks has been too tormented by 17 and 18 for too long to really trust any android. That's assuming that 16 was still alive in the future - when 17 and 18 blew up Gero's lab, 16 was probably destroyed along with it.

2. I don't think so. It's hard to believe that the Lookout is still in one piece and thus the RoSaT hasn't been destroyed by the androids in the future. Given nearly 20 years to roam the planet, they would have likely found it at some point. Besides, Trunks would know that going in, he wouldn't have an opportunity to make huge gains, as he would be training alone. Given that, there's also a risk that since the RoSaT is a space where time doesn't flow normally that maybe he cannot enter another RoSaT even though it's in a different timeline/dimension. So he would risk going in to have the door disappear and be trapped forever, for strength gains that aren't incredibly great, and without any specific threat to push him to make a risky decision. So overall I don't think he would.

3. No, pretty sure he wouldn't. Everyone who managed to survive was so far behind Trunks in terms of power, they wouldn't make any significant difference for Ginyu-level villains and above.

4. No, he has no idea where New Namek is. King Kai seems to be a bit of a dick since he never tries to help the Earth after Goku dies, so how else would Trunks find it? Also, after Trunks defeats Cell he is chronologically 23 years old (biologically 25). Gohan died when Trunks was 14, so I'm not sure he could be revived with the dragonballs on New Namek (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).

[EmmaWinters]

Isn't the burden of proof on you here? We have a list of characters killed by the Androids from Trunks in the Manga, and neither Yajirobe or Roshi made that list.

He says he's the only senshi left, before listing off a few names of people who fought.
You're basing your information on a scene from the anime. Trunks might not even know who Roshi is.

That should be enough proof for you, but I don't care enough to argue.

[In Brightest Day]

I would argue the point if your response had enough substance to warrant one. You haven't posted proof of anything yet.

In fairness, I haven't read that part of the Manga in a while.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

1) I think Gero more than likely scrapped the #16 model in the future timeline. For some reason, I always wondered how a theoretical Future #16 would be if he was around the Future Androids.

2) Yes. I'm one of those people who thinks Kami's Lookout was destroyed, though. With that, there'd be no way for him to use it.

3) I doubt either would care enough to train. Both aren't that strong. I also go along with the filler's depiction of Yaji in the future timeline.

4) The only reason new namek was located was because Goku teleported to Kaio and asked for help. Kaio was totally unaware of Cell, the Androids, and everything that was taking place on earth at that point. My guess is Kaio realized the world was doomed (in the future) and just focused on other planets instead.

[EmmaWinters]

I would argue the point if your response had enough substance to warrant one. You haven't posted proof of anything yet.

You're asserting that a character is alive based on a TV special.
I'm talking about the manga, not the anime.

In the manga, he's nowhere to be seen, he never surfaces again, and Trunks tells Goku that he's the only warrior left. I don't need to post proof of anything; that's everything we know. It's implied that he's dead with everyone else, so to argue otherwise would put the "burden of proof" on you.

Sure, I'll concede a bit. He might be alive, but claiming he is alive would be arguing gaps. There is no evidence whatsoever of that being the case, so unless there's something out there that I'm not aware of, (which is entirely possible) there's no reason to assume he's alive in the manga.

Of course, you know this. You mention in your first post that it's a long-shot.

[Dayspring]

1). Awakened Android #16. Maybe in order to have a bit of back up in case other threats ever came to Earth or to help with the planets recovery (Yes, just like in Dragonball-Multiverse).

Unlikely. He didn't trust the one he met, whereas he has reasons to suspect that if #16 does exist to be awakened, he'd be evil (since #17 and #18 aren't evil in the manga's timeline but are in his).

2). Used the ROSAT again?

He wouldn't need to, so again, I don't think so. Even if Dabura and Babidi showed up in his timeline, they wouldn't be a threat he'd be aware of, especially since they'd fail to revive Boo.

3). Perhaps got some of the Z-Senshi that were still alive (Yajirobe - in case he didn't die, and Muten-Rôshi) to resume training in order to possibly help with future threats too (I don't have high hopes for this one).

There'd be no point even if a future threat popped up. Yajirobe or Popo is easily the strongest of anybody still left alive after Trunks (assuming they are alive, I mean). Neither would be a match Nappa, which is why they didn't help out in that fight. Anything that would give Trunks a tough time would be way out of their league.

4). Traveled to Planet Namek in order to make Dende the new Guardian and/or revive Son Gohan?


... Once he had destroyed the Androids and Cell in his timeline?

No. Nobody knew where the Namekkians emigrated to when they left Earth. They only found it in the Boo saga because Kibito can teleport anywhere in the Universe.

[In Brightest Day]

@FatNagger69, Roshi hasnt been apart of any conflict since Piccolo Daimao. No where is it implied Roshi inexplicably decided to challenge the Androids along with the Z-Fighters (Chaozu could kill him with a look. Literally), as it would be highly, highly unusual behaviour based off everything we see from him after Dragonball. Again, burden of proof is on you.

It's unlikely Trunks asked Roshi to start training again due to him being old as fuck. Take it easy.

[EmmaWinters]

Again, burden of proof is on you. ... Take it easy.

I'm not asserting that he's dead, I'm saying that it's implied from what we see.
If you want to claim he's alive, go ahead, I don't mind, but there's nothing to support it, that's all I'm saying.