Questions about Boo Kai

clutchins · Post by **clutchins** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:33 am

This might be a dumb question, but I don't watch Kai as much as I rewatch Z. Why did Toei not bring back Q-TEC and put out the Blu-rays in widescreen? And I suppose the ugly green tint is a result of no Q-TEC?

Theophrastus · Post by **Theophrastus** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:27 am

The green tint is assumed to be the result of changes in Japanese broadcasting standards since the first season of Kai was done. The tint isn't there in the international broadcasts, from what I've heard (although IIRC the trade off is that the image is darkened a bit instead).

This is purely speculation, but I think the 16:9 AR being retained on the BDs might be due to Buu Kai being produced primarily because of international demand - it's possible that one of the many licensees for the franchise requested that it be done.

YouTube · Post by **Ajay** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:49 am

The tint is there in both the Japanese and International versions. Its absence in the international cut was a rumour that turned out to be false. It's green because whoever was in charge of the colours was bad at their job.

Regarding the aspect ratio; when Kai 1.0 was being made, it was shortly before new TV standards regarding 16:9 in Japan were introduced. It's theorised that in Kai 1.0, they'd already made the series in 4:3 and simply cropped it down once the TV standard was in effect.

Kai 2.0 began years into this 16:9 standard and so Toei, in all their wisdom, decided to just do the entire thing in 16:9. Without QTEC because they hate spending money.

Here's a roughly colour corrected shot against the French TV broadcast:

Spoiler:

TheBlackPaladin · Post by **TheBlackPaladin** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:30 am

It's also worth noting that, even in the Japanese version, the green tint isn't present on the opening or ending animations. Just the episodes themselves. The restoration was done without anybody outside of Toei, it's all in-house now. And as mentioned before, whoever was in charge of color-correcting apparently just didn't do a very good job.

While this is borderline-impossible, I would find it kind of funny if it tuns out the guy doing the color correction has a broken monitor, skewing his impression of the colors, and he found that out after the fact. "Wait...so I've been coloring everything green?"

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:16 am

Kai 1.0 had a bigger budget that Toei paid Q-TEC to take care of the remasterisation and Yamamoto for the score but Kai 2.0 is pretty low, and it's known that Kai 2.0 was originally made for the international market so it's why it was never that great visually or musically.

If Q-TEC remastered Kai 2.0 it'd have been a lot better despite Sumitomo's score would've derailed it, though.

TheBlackPaladin wrote:It's also worth noting that, even in the Japanese version, the green tint isn't present on the opening or ending animations. Just the episodes themselves. The restoration was done without anybody outside of Toei, it's all in-house now. And as mentioned before, whoever was in charge of color-correcting apparently just didn't do a very good job.

While this is borderline-impossible, I would find it kind of funny if it tuns out the guy doing the color correction has a broken monitor, skewing his impression of the colors, and he found that out after the fact. "Wait...so I've been coloring everything green?"

FortuneSSJ · Post by **FortuneSSJ** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:33 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote: While this is borderline-impossible, I would find it kind of funny if it tuns out the guy doing the color correction has a broken monitor, skewing his impression of the colors, and he found that out after the fact. "Wait...so I've been coloring everything green?"

The green tint doesn't make any sense so its possible.

YouTube · Post by **Ajay** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:38 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
TheBlackPaladin wrote: While this is borderline-impossible, I would find it kind of funny if it tuns out the guy doing the color correction has a broken monitor, skewing his impression of the colors, and he found that out after the fact. "Wait...so I've been coloring everything green?"
The green tint doesn't make any sense so its possible.

The green tint varies slightly from episode to episode so it definitely feels like his monitor probably wasn't calibrated properly. I imagine it had a fairly significant red shift to it.

TheKingOfKamehamehas · Post by **TheKingOfKamehamehas** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:40 pm

Going to put out a question and say...
Do you guys think there is going to be censorship on Toonami Broadcast?

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:44 pm

TheKingOfKamehamehas wrote:Going to put out a question and say...
Do you guys think there is going to be censorship on Toonami Broadcast?

Nope. IIRC, Toonami said they would be airing the uncut version of Dragon Ball Z Kai.

Theophrastus · Post by **Theophrastus** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:43 pm

Aside from cutting down the OPs/EDs/NEPs for time reasons, it should be uncut. Kai is probably even tamer than Naruto/One Piece/Bleach in terms of graphic content, and those all air uncut (besides the aforementioned).

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:27 pm

Theophrastus wrote:Aside from cutting down the OPs/EDs/NEPs for time reasons, it should be uncut. Kai is probably even tamer than Naruto/One Piece/Bleach in terms of graphic content, and those all air uncut (besides the aforementioned).

It's mostly uncut in Kai 2.0 for example, they censored the head that blew up from one of the employees from Tenkaichi Tournament (executed by Babidi's magic because he only gave them his names and nothing else). I wish they'd leave this scene uncut for the home release but they probably won't.

Freeza Soldier #156 · Post by **Freeza Soldier #156** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:41 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote: It's mostly uncut in Kai 2.0 for example, they censored the head that blew up from one of the employees from Tenkaichi Tournament (executed by Babidi's magic because he only gave them his names and nothing else). I wish they'd leave this scene uncut for the home release but they probably won't.

I don't know, I think we just might. I'm hoping the superficial edits that Toei have made to Kai may only be present in the Japanese version. I'm thinking that the only reason these edits exist is because Toei went back through and did them when they decided to air the show in Japan. I just don't see them having taken the effort to do it otherwise. A good example are Super Buu's eyes. For the Japanese version, Toei went in and re-colored them red, however, in the International version they are still white.

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:38 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:While this is borderline-impossible, I would find it kind of funny if it tuns out the guy doing the color correction has a broken monitor, skewing his impression of the colors, and he found that out after the fact. "Wait...so I've been coloring everything green?"

That actually did happen when Studio Ghibli released Spirited Away on DVD. They were even sued by some purchasers for it, but they cotinued to say bullshit and claimed the reddish footage is how it was meant to be seen, though it was fixed on a recent Blu-ray release.

Spoiler:

FYI, it's not "he." According to the booklet included in the first Blu-ray box, the colorist is a woman.

Kanzenshuu

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