Dragon Box vs Original Broadcast - The Audio

[dbboxkaifan]

I'm surprised...

I know what they meant but just because Sabat's apparently acquiring the audio tracks it doesn't necessarily mean it'll actually be on the future home releases, first they'll probably need to get Toei's approval and then consider it.

Let's just be honest here, why would Toei want a foreign company such as FUNimation who tends to release high quality BD/DVD releases have the superior Japanese Broadcast Audio? Toei would be at loss seeing potential customers/fans importing it instead.

[Ajay]

Toei was offered it first. They had no interest in it.

Chances are, they don't care.

[sangofe]

I'm surprised...

I know what they meant but just because Sabat's apparently acquiring the audio tracks it doesn't necessarily mean it'll actually be on the future home releases, first they'll probably need to get Toei's approval and then consider it.

Let's just be honest here, why would Toei want a foreign company such as FUNimation who tends to release high quality BD/DVD releases have the superior Japanese Broadcast Audio? Toei would be at loss seeing potential customers/fans importing it instead.

And why do you feel the need to point out that Kei and Animemaakuo's attempt it might not succeed? Can't you keep your negativity to yourself? Please, they're trying to make this audio, that's by far superior to anything released before, available to the masses. Just let them try. No need to spread negative waves.

Toei was offered it first. They had no interest in it.

Chances are, they don't care.

Yeah, also, they didn't seem to care that FUNi released DBZ on BD. So they'd probably not really care and see it as an extra chance of making easy money. I mean, why would they care? Toei doesn't seem to be a company full of pride...

[El Diabeetus]

You should also recommend to Sabat that the episodes with this kind of audio be used for those said episodes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmqXzsMd-qM

[sangofe]

You should also recommend to Sabat that the episodes with this kind of audio be used for those said episodes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmqXzsMd-qM

Hell yeah! No doubt Kei and Animemaakuo will provide these episodes too I'd wet my pants to get these used in a release!

[Puto]

You're assuming that FUNimation require explicit permission from Toei to use a fan's audio recording. I don't believe this is necessarily the case.

From what somebody who works for a (different) anime licensing company told me, as long as they have the rights to a certain version of the show, they don't necessarily need to ask for explicit permission to use a different audio (or video) source, as long as they don't use any extra content that they don't already have a licence to (like potentially episode previews).

[AnimeMaakuo]

You should also recommend to Sabat that the episodes with this kind of audio be used for those said episodes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmqXzsMd-qM

Hell yeah! No doubt Kei and Animemaakuo will provide these episodes too I'd wet my pants to get these used in a release!

In the flash drive I gave Chris, there were two BIG BOX audio files, two Dragon Box files, and a remastered Fuji TV file. His email indicated that he was extremely happy

If, in fact, FUNimation decides to use them, I will have the opportunity to discuss with Chris about a future 4:3 release. Besides missing next episode previews, the only problem with the level sets were the crushed blacks.

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[eledoremassis02]

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What do you guys say about backing those words with some action? We can do much more than just hoping. Together we are stronger. We can help those guys - it all depends on our initiative.

I'd be the first to buy it!

You're assuming that FUNimation require explicit permission from Toei to use a fan's audio recording. I don't believe this is necessarily the case.

From what somebody who works for a (different) anime licensing company told me, as long as they have the rights to a certain version of the show, they don't necessarily need to ask for explicit permission to use a different audio (or video) source, as long as they don't use any extra content that they don't already have a licence to (like potentially episode previews).

Normally I'd say otherwise...but you do have a point. FUNimation seems to like using fansub video to get jump starts on dubbing so you may be onto something. Hey if this gets done...PRE-ORDER!

AnimeMaakuo , I know you probly don't know this buuuuut. Do you know if they can add NEP previews (now they'll have audio)?

[OWmyDragonBallz]

If, in fact, FUNimation decides to use them, I will have the opportunity to discuss with Chris about a future 4:3 release. Besides missing next episode previews, the only problem with the level sets were the crushed blacks.

You're assuming that FUNimation require explicit permission from Toei to use a fan's audio recording. I don't believe this is necessarily the case.

From what somebody who works for a (different) anime licensing company told me, as long as they have the rights to a certain version of the show, they don't necessarily need to ask for explicit permission to use a different audio (or video) source, as long as they don't use any extra content that they don't already have a licence to (like potentially episode previews).

I'm crossing my fingers on FUNi using the audio. They also need to fix the nasty blacks.

[Vegard Aune]

On the crushed blacks though... Has FUNi ever released a version of the show that didn't have those? Wouldn't that imply that they would have to get new film-stock from Toei to fix it? And heck, some of Toei's original film negatives suffer from the opposite problem of being too bright, so is there even a surefire way to get the entire series with the correct black- and white-levels?

[Puto]

Were the crushed blacks even a problem at all beyond the first two or three episodes? Everybody seems to post examples exclusively from episode 1, for which FUNimation has masters in notoriously bad shape.

[eledoremassis02]

Were the crushed blacks even a problem at all beyond the first two or three episodes? Everybody seems to post examples exclusively from episode 1, for which FUNimation has masters in notoriously bad shape.

I'd say so, but if we get better audio then I'm good

[Puto]

I'm not seeing any dark detail in the Dragon Box shot to begin with.

[eledoremassis02]

The darker blue shading in the earth in gone on the blu ray as well as a mily way blue streak (top right) and some stars. This often happens when you darken any night shots.

[mcdonough88]

How much better do US releases sound vs the original Dragon Box? Is there less hiss or anything?

[eledoremassis02]

How much better do US releases sound vs the original Dragon Box? Is there less hiss or anything?

For dragon Ball, the Dboxes sound much better! For Z, I think the Dragon Box wins over every release except (arguably) the new season set audio

[dbboxkaifan]

And why do you feel the need to point out that Kei and Animemaakuo's attempt it might not succeed? Can't you keep your negativity to yourself? Please, they're trying to make this audio, that's by far superior to anything released before, available to the masses. Just let them try. No need to spread negative waves.

It's just being realistic in that it can be turned down and with that, I've been very respectful with everyone while you're being very hostile and arrogant towards me. I'd wish you changed that attitude.

Toei was offered it first. They had no interest in it.

Chances are, they don't care.

Yeah, also, they didn't seem to care that FUNi released DBZ on BD. So they'd probably not really care and see it as an extra chance of making easy money. I mean, why would they care? Toei doesn't seem to be a company full of pride...

Kei17 offered it to Toei but they most likely turned it down due to pride.

[sangofe]

And why do you feel the need to point out that Kei and Animemaakuo's attempt it might not succeed? Can't you keep your negativity to yourself? Please, they're trying to make this audio, that's by far superior to anything released before, available to the masses. Just let them try. No need to spread negative waves.

It's just being realistic in that it can be turned down and with that, I've been very respectful with everyone while you're being very hostile and arrogant towards me. I'd wish you changed that attitude.

Toei was offered it first. They had no interest in it.

Chances are, they don't care.

Yeah, also, they didn't seem to care that FUNi released DBZ on BD. So they'd probably not really care and see it as an extra chance of making easy money. I mean, why would they care? Toei doesn't seem to be a company full of pride...

Kei17 offered it to Toei but they most likely turned it down due to pride.

I'm pm'ing you about the comment you made about me. To stay on topic - "most likely turned it down due to pride" is what you think. There has been no evidence of this anywhere. It's a mere speculation from you. If I were to speculate, I'd say they turned it down because they had no interest in spending money on DBZ when they had their Kai product going on.

[Kojiro Sasaki]

What do you guys say about backing those words with some action? We can do much more than just hoping. Together we are stronger. We can help those guys - it all depends on our initiative.

I'd be the first to buy it!

That's great, but it needs to appear on the market before you'll get it Emails, letters, petitions, tweets, messages, surveys and any other kind of expressing our desires wouldn't stop FUNimation from considering a new release.
A couple of guys managed to get that far - let's help them!

Were the crushed blacks even a problem at all beyond the first two or three episodes? Everybody seems to post examples exclusively from episode 1, for which FUNimation has masters in notoriously bad shape.

I posted an example from episode 5 before. As Kai proved, Dragon Boxes also have crushed blacks. It makes the Level sets even worse.

Kei17 offered it to Toei but they most likely turned it down due to pride.

It seems that you have extremely detailed knowledge about it. Are you working for Toei?

[Puto]

Well, Kai (especially early Kai) has the opposite problem somewhat, it's too bright.