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Cell Solar Systen Statement

Post by BrolyLSSJ » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:35 pm

Did akira even confirm this?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:16 pm

Does he have to? If Toriyama writes for Cell to believe he strong enough to destroy the Solar System in one blast, he can damn well do it. There have been crazier feats thrown around in Dragon Ball which have later turned out to be true. But Toriyama doesn't really focus so much on attention to detail, so there's every chance that Cell statement was hyperbole for sole purpose of scaring the shit out of the cast.
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Re: Cell Solar Systen Statement

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:20 pm

Solar System busting does not happen until Beerus arrives in my opinion. Solar System busting is the limit on how far DBZ characters can go in my opinion. Anything above that is fan wank.
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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:22 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Does he have to? If Toriyama writes for Cell to believe he strong enough to destroy the Solar System in one blast, he can damn well do it. There have been crazier feats thrown around in Dragon Ball which have later turned out to be true. But Toriyama doesn't really focus so much on attention to detail, so there's every chance that Cell statement was hyperbole for sole purpose of scaring the shit out of the cast.
It actually does and I also believe its hyperbole.
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Re: Cell Solar Systen Statement

Post by BrolyLSSJ » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:23 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Solar System busting does not happen until Beerus arrives in my opinion. Solar System busting is the limit on how far DBZ characters can go in my opinion. Anything above that is fan wank.
You forgot Majin Buu/Broly collapsing galaxies by destroying planets.
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Re: Cell Solar Systen Statement

Post by Saiyan007 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:28 am

There's a guidebook that backs up Cell's claim :o
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:01 am

Lord Beerus wrote:Does he have to? If Toriyama writes for Cell to believe he strong enough to destroy the Solar System in one blast, he can damn well do it. There have been crazier feats thrown around in Dragon Ball which have later turned out to be true. But Toriyama doesn't really focus so much on attention to detail, so there's every chance that Cell statement was hyperbole for sole purpose of scaring the shit out of the cast.
This. You can say he can blow up the sun...but to destroy the massively bigger suns, probably not.
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Post by ImmaDeker » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:04 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Solar System busting
This phrasing has singlehandedly destroyed language.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Solar System busting does not happen until Beerus arrives in my opinion. Solar System busting is the limit on how far DBZ characters can go in my opinion. Anything above that is fan wank.
Toriyama contradicts your opinion by having Cell saying that he can destroy the Solar System.
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Post by shinmaru » Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:07 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Solar System busting does not happen until Beerus arrives in my opinion. Solar System busting is the limit on how far DBZ characters can go in my opinion. Anything above that is fan wank.
Brolly does it at the start of Movie 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scKgcFGTYRc and brolly does it because he is a loose canon. Cell is stronger then Brolly so he can destroy a solar system too, but he is no psychopath. I even think Freeza can pull that off but why would he.
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Re: Cell Solar Systen Statement

Post by rereboy » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:49 pm

shinmaru wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Solar System busting does not happen until Beerus arrives in my opinion. Solar System busting is the limit on how far DBZ characters can go in my opinion. Anything above that is fan wank.
Brolly does it at the start of Movie 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scKgcFGTYRc and brolly does it because he is a loose canon. Cell is stronger then Brolly so he can destroy a solar system too, but he is no psychopath. I even think Freeza can pull that off but why would he.
Besides that being filler, that's a representation of his destruction over time, not the effects of a single attack.
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Re: Cell Solar Systen Statement

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:51 pm

rereboy wrote:
shinmaru wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Solar System busting does not happen until Beerus arrives in my opinion. Solar System busting is the limit on how far DBZ characters can go in my opinion. Anything above that is fan wank.
Brolly does it at the start of Movie 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scKgcFGTYRc and brolly does it because he is a loose canon. Cell is stronger then Brolly so he can destroy a solar system too, but he is no psychopath. I even think Freeza can pull that off but why would he.
Besides that being filler, that's a representation of his destruction over time, not the effects of a single attack.
Especially seeing as the movie takes place in the South Galaxy, so obviously Broly didn't destroy all of it.
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Re: Cell Solar Systen Statement

Post by Dayspring » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:26 pm

In the Dragonball universe's laws of physics, the exposing of a planet's core is all that matters in regards to making it blow up. Because of this, Vegeta was strong enough to blow up Earth in the Saiyan saga. That was a Battle Power of 18,000. Being 10,000x stronger means a Battle Power of 180,000,000, which is much weaker than SSJ Grade 2. I can see Cell's claims being very easily true.
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Post by Friezacooler » Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:13 pm

If Snake way is as big as the DB universe map shows than cell is multi solar system buster I guess.
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Post by xmysticgohanx » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:36 am

Saiyan007 wrote:There's a guidebook that backs up Cell's claim :o
Anime guidebook.

Beerus can but Cell can't
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Re: Cell Solar Systen Statement

Post by rereboy » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:54 pm

xmysticgohanx wrote:
Saiyan007 wrote:There's a guidebook that backs up Cell's claim :o
Anime guidebook.

Beerus can but Cell can't
We don't need a guidebook. Cell states that he can in the manga and nothing really contradicts him. Dragon Ball is straightforward so there's no point in second-guessing statements like that.
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Post by ssjjanemba » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:51 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Solar System busting does not happen until Beerus arrives in my opinion. Solar System busting is the limit on how far DBZ characters can go in my opinion. Anything above that is fan wank.
Akira stated in an interview that beerus could destroy the entire Kaioshin realm, which is much bigger then a solar system.
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ssjjanemba wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Solar System busting does not happen until Beerus arrives in my opinion. Solar System busting is the limit on how far DBZ characters can go in my opinion. Anything above that is fan wank.
Akira stated in an interview that beerus could destroy the entire Kaioshin realm, which is much bigger then a solar system.
Says what?
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:59 pm

If Cell says he can do it, he can. What's up for interpretation is how he'd do it.
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Re: Cell Solar Systen Statement

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:01 pm

Well Kid Buu's death ball only blew up the Earth though. Both SSj2 Goku and SSj2 Vegeta were scared of Buu's attack and they were both stronger then Cell.
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