Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:20 pm

Heh heh, at least now Goten won't slack off.

And I really love how you handled the Black Dragon Balls.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by rereboy » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:38 pm

The only problem is Piccolo Daimao apparently not knowing anything extraordinary about Dragon Balls in the original manga, except what Pilaf told him.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:07 pm

rereboy wrote:The only problem is Piccolo Daimao apparently not knowing anything extraordinary about Dragon Balls in the original manga, except what Pilaf told him.
I don't know if Malik addressed this in his GT changes, but the same basic thing is a problem with most GT related works anyway. Kami made the Ultimate Balls before they ever split, and yet Piccolo didn't seem to know what Dragon Balls in general are until Pilaf tells him...despite the fact that he retained all his memories of Kami, the Namekian language, etc.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by rereboy » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:26 pm

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rereboy wrote:The only problem is Piccolo Daimao apparently not knowing anything extraordinary about Dragon Balls in the original manga, except what Pilaf told him.
I don't know if Malik addressed this in his GT changes, but the same basic thing is a problem with most GT related works anyway. Kami made the Ultimate Balls before they ever split, and yet Piccolo didn't seem to know what Dragon Balls in general are until Pilaf tells him...despite the fact that he retained all his memories of Kami, the Namekian language, etc.
Yeah, its one of those things that didn't make much sense.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Malik_DBNA » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:08 am

rereboy wrote:The only problem is Piccolo Daimao apparently not knowing anything extraordinary about Dragon Balls in the original manga, except what Pilaf told him.
Believe me, I know of that issue. Unfortunately, since it is present in the original manga, I cannot change it. It is possible that Piccolo, not being the original mind and body, has holes in his memory.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Regarder » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:04 am

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*bump* onto this page, and...

Critique/nitpicks: the left "headlight" of the capsule corp ship is slightly botched. Since both are in the same perspective, if you wanted to fix something so minor, you could literally copy the right perfectly round headlight over in an image editing program and it should look legible. The other thing is that I'm not sure about Old Kai's face sometimes, especially the eye area. I'll have a check of the manga and see what it might be. It's mainly the small panels, but of course those are tricky!

Praise: Pretty much everything else is great as usual, but I guess there isn't much in the way of specifics for that. I like the way beat up Gohan looks in that little panel we see of him. The dialogue flows better as a form of exposition here too.

Big Praise: dat pic of Piccolo Daimao at the end there. It perfectly captures his devious maniacal personality, and even though it's partially covered by the black Dragonballs, it's still one of the best "character" faces you have drawn in DBNA (along with some of Aladjinn's faces in his various guises). It's an enormous improvement from the Piccolo before who seemed a bit "cut-out" or something.

So again, keep up the good work.

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Post by Malik_DBNA » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:28 pm

Thanks Regarder :-)

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by coola » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:07 pm

So far biggest flaw of villains, is impatience :) Rigor would win, if he just wait a little bit after he land, but i can understand him, man responsible for death of his mother was so close...There is one thing however i don't understand, while Black Dragon Balls drain planet life with each usage, so it is not wise to use them at all, but, wasn't it said at one point, that if you rarely use Dragon Balls, it won't create negative energy, so Namekian Shadow Dragons shouln't be problem? I think it was said in GT, bu i might be wrong
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Post by Malik_DBNA » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:05 pm

coola wrote:So far biggest flaw of villains, is impatience :) Rigor would win, if he just wait a little bit after he land, but i can understand him, man responsible for death of his mother was so close...There is one thing however i don't understand, while Black Dragon Balls drain planet life with each usage, so it is not wise to use them at all, but, wasn't it said at one point, that if you rarely use Dragon Balls, it won't create negative energy, so Namekian Shadow Dragons shouln't be problem? I think it was said in GT, bu i might be wrong
The Namekian Dragon Balls are larger, and Porunga is far more powerful than Shenron. The strength of his wishes generate far greater amounts of Negative Energy, so it takes far longer to dissipate with him. Not to mention that Elder Kaioshin has said that it takes about 100 years for the Negative Energy to completely dissipate from any set of Dragon Balls.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:22 pm

Not a bad technique. Hmm...I'm guessing you're redoing your manga from the ground up, because I noticed a lot of changes from the version you posted on DA.

BTW, where was Planet Bebit located in terms of galaxy? I could have sworn your manga state that Rigor "should have stayed in East Galaxy" or something.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Malik_DBNA » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:33 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote:Not a bad technique. Hmm...I'm guessing you're redoing your manga from the ground up, because I noticed a lot of changes from the version you posted on DA.

BTW, where was Planet Bebit located in terms of galaxy? I could have sworn your manga state that Rigor "should have stayed in East Galaxy" or something.
Planet Bebit is on the farthest side of the North Galaxy

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:51 pm

Malik_DBNA wrote:
BlazingBarrrager wrote:Not a bad technique. Hmm...I'm guessing you're redoing your manga from the ground up, because I noticed a lot of changes from the version you posted on DA.

BTW, where was Planet Bebit located in terms of galaxy? I could have sworn your manga state that Rigor "should have stayed in East Galaxy" or something.
Planet Bebit is on the farthest side of the North Galaxy
Ah alright. Thanks.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:05 pm

So is everything being done from the beginning? Or are we going to cut back to the plot that was put on hold at some point?
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Malik_DBNA » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:04 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:So is everything being done from the beginning? Or are we going to cut back to the plot that was put on hold at some point?
Not everything. Past chapter 22, the revamps are more panel-to-panel and story related edits. I've already pencilled almost all the revamps through chapter 17, so it shouldn't be much longer before the story resumes

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Regarder » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:12 am

I thought the bit where Krillin first appears was a bit abrupt compared to before, but all the stuff after and the new technique is very much an improvement. The justification for the technique helps it seem natural because it reminds us of ye olde Dragonball. Good job again.

I wonder though... what's the weakness of Seishin-ken? Kaio-ken taxes the body when you use it, so does Seishin-ken have a different weakness? An obvious weakness in reality of doubling the power of something is that the energy reserves would be used up twice as fast... or do you have some other weakness in mind? It'd be a bit weird if there wasn't one downside that limits the use.
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dbzfan7 wrote:So is everything being done from the beginning? Or are we going to cut back to the plot that was put on hold at some point?
Not everything. Past chapter 22, the revamps are more panel-to-panel and story related edits. I've already pencilled almost all the revamps through chapter 17, so it shouldn't be much longer before the story resumes
I was a little afraid you'd start totally altering the Goku Vs Aladjinn battle and ruin the perfect pacing, but it looks like you are saying that the FULL revamps go half way into the battle within Vegeta's mind (where chapter 22 ends).

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Malik_DBNA » Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:01 am

Regarder wrote:I thought the bit where Krillin first appears was a bit abrupt compared to before, but all the stuff after and the new technique is very much an improvement. The justification for the technique helps it seem natural because it reminds us of ye olde Dragonball. Good job again.

I wonder though... what's the weakness of Seishin-ken? Kaio-ken taxes the body when you use it, so does Seishin-ken have a different weakness? An obvious weakness in reality of doubling the power of something is that the energy reserves would be used up twice as fast... or do you have some other weakness in mind? It'd be a bit weird if there wasn't one downside that limits the use.
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dbzfan7 wrote:So is everything being done from the beginning? Or are we going to cut back to the plot that was put on hold at some point?
Not everything. Past chapter 22, the revamps are more panel-to-panel and story related edits. I've already pencilled almost all the revamps through chapter 17, so it shouldn't be much longer before the story resumes
I was a little afraid you'd start totally altering the Goku Vs Aladjinn battle and ruin the perfect pacing, but it looks like you are saying that the FULL revamps go half way into the battle within Vegeta's mind (where chapter 22 ends).
You're quite close to Seishin-Ken's weakness :-) more about it will be revealed later in the story.

Yeah, almost nothing in that battle needs changed, so you don't have to worry about that. Like I said, from Chapter 22 onward, the revisions are sporadic instead of whole pages

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:03 pm

Your portrayal of Kaio is spot on. Kudos.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:13 pm

lol At least Kaio isn't trying to get him to laugh.

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