Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

[Mosaic]

Another thing is they only really properly used the first two Witches. One of the cool things the anime has over the manga is that the slower paced allowed the henchmen to develop personalities, but we didn't really get that for the majority of the Witches. That said, Professor Tomoe in Anime S is hilarious. I love all the Big Bads.

The fact the last three Witches didn't get a lot of screentime was either due to poor planning, or making Kaolinite more prominent. I didn't really mind though, I think it made the later Witches a lot more unique. Viluy wouldn't be as badass if she was around for 10 episodes, doing the same goofy stuff Eudial and Mimete did. People complain about the underdeveloped villains in the manga, but Takeuchi did a better job with the more important bad guys. Queen Beryl, Demand, Mistress 9, Pharaoh 90, and Galaxia had a lot more dimension than their animated counterparts.

Anime Stars tried way too hard to be S over again, I always compare it to GT since it feels like a retread for the most part.

Well said. What amazed me the most was how it was the final season, but literally every Inner and Outer got the shaft. Poor Chibiusa doesn't even make it to the final episode, and Hotaru appears for like 7 episodes.

And regarding Chibiusa, I personally though the "she's 900 years old" angle was really dumb. They never fleshed it out in the anime, but it's mention in the Sailor Moon R Nakayoshi Anime Album, so it is canon...

[Kid Buu]

I agree with you the more important villains being characterized better in the manga. Although I'd argue that Wiseman was just as Big Bad or even more Big Bad than Demand.

To me while the last six episodes of SuperS redeemed it, the last six episodes of Stars just nailed the coffin. From the Inners dying for the Starlights (which is incredibly OOC since they are meant to be protecting Moon) to the Outers going rouge and killing their friend and adopted child, to having all that time spent hyping up Usagi with the sword only to go for a heal instead of a fight. Also yeah, Chibiusa appearing in Usagi's dream during the fight but not appearing in the final episode always bugged me too.

[coola]

Yes, both SuperS and Stars in anime form were very messy adaptations of manga, many characters were not included, and there was no Outers in SuperS at all, and Stars, i wonder why they omited Sailor Cosmos? What happened with Chibi Chibi, and Animamates? Did their star seeds return? So many unanswered questions, If you wanna watch Starlights done right, watch Seramyu, they are much more fleshed out there, and very funny as well. Am i only one, who had enough of "Search For Your Love" at middle of Stars? Talk about overuse

[Mosaic]

To me while the last six episodes of SuperS redeemed it, the last six episodes of Stars just nailed the coffin. From the Inners dying for the Starlights (which is incredibly OOC since they are meant to be protecting Moon) to the Outers going rouge and killing their friend and adopted child, to having all that time spent hyping up Usagi with the sword only to go for a heal instead of a fight. Also yeah, Chibiusa appearing in Usagi's dream during the fight but not appearing in the final episode always bugged me too.

I think the last episode of SuperS alone redeemed it, haha. My only complaint with the finale was the really creepy spirit-bomb rip-off scene. They could've handled it better, instead of Chibimoon hypnotizing everybody. I think they also wasted the potential to show all of the previous dream victims. Instead we just see Unazuki, Chibiusa's friends, and that one teacher that Minako and Makoto crushed on. It's a shame.

The Stars finale was so dragged out, it felt like the battle with Freeza all over again! Killing off the Inners instantly was such a big fuck you, although the manga wasn't much better. Still not sure why they decided to turn the Outers into such tools at the end, they were almost a parody of themselves in Stars.

I did like the last episode, but it didn't feel like a grand finale. At the end of the manga, it felt like a true ending... while the anime feels like another season finale.

What happened with Chibi Chibi, and Animamates?

Chibi Chibi's fate is so vague... when you think about it. If she's Galaxia's starseed... why didn't she return to Galaxia? As far as the Animamates, it's implied everyone who's starseeds were taken returned back to life. So I'm sure they returned to their respective planets in peace.

[Kid Buu]

Yeah, the Genki Dama stuff was a bit too much, but I really liked the style of the last six episodes. They were certainly eerie.

Agree on everything about Stars. Although, I actually did like the "Search For Your Love" song. It is literally the only thing I liked about the season. I think the worst part was trying to make Seiya a love interest, kind of dumb because we knew it wasn't gonna go anywhere.

You should check out the Sentai PGSM if you haven't. I actually think of the three adaptations, it is the best one.

[coola]

I plan to watch PGSM one day, i keep hearing many good things about it As for Seiya/Usagi, at least it was more of unrequired love, Usagi loved only Mamoru, and their "dating" lead to one of most hilarious scenes in whole series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja8_szWfhCU

[Mosaic]

Agree on everything about Stars. Although, I actually did like the "Search For Your Love" song. It is literally the only thing I liked about the season.

I liked all of the music in Stars, although "My Friend's Love" was my favorite insert song. I was a bit indifferent to the music for Galaxia's crew. The main battle music sounded like something out of The Little Mermaid.

You should check out the Sentai PGSM if you haven't. I actually think of the three adaptations, it is the best one.

I've seen a bit of it, and I liked what I saw, but I generally don't like sentai. But it's pretty good, and certainly a lot better than Crystal.

[TripleRach]

The term you guys want is "tokusatsu." "Sentai" is just the Super Sentai franchise, which is one of many tokusatsu productions. Westerners tend to abbreviate it to "toku," though it's already an abbreviation in Japanese.

I've said it before, but man I would love to see a Dragon Ball tokusatsu. With a good director, costume designer, and athletic face actors, it could at least be fun. Of course good writing would be nice too.

Incidentally, Yasuko Kobayashi was the head writer for live-action Sailor Moon. She's head written a lot of other toku shows, most of which are well liked. I don't know if her style would work well for Dragon Ball though.

[Kid Buu]

I always wondered why Toei never did a live-action DBZ. A toku could work:

Goku (Red Ranger)
Piccolo (Second in-command)
Vegeta (Sixth Ranger)
Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Yamcha (jobber rangers)

Yasuko Kobayashi did a good job with PGSM, so I think she could do a DBZ Toku well. I think PGSM is the adaptation that is closest to the manga, while having enough liberties to form it's own identity. I'm generally more of a live-action/toku fan than an animation fan, so I guess the medium transition didn't bother me like it did for a few others. The insert songs for Sailor Stars were nice, and I like the music in 90s SM in general. The music in Crystal is just bland.

[Mosaic]

The music in Crystal is just bland.

Agreed. It doesn't sound bad or anything... it's just there. Even the DIC soundtrack is more memorable.

[sailorspazz]

Even the DIC soundtrack is more memorable.

I've always thought the DiC soundtrack was very good. Yeah, replacing the original music sucks, but at least what they made was fitting for the show. I remember watching both Sailor Moon and DBZ dubs back in the day and comparing their soundtracks like, "Sailor Moon sounds good, but what the fuck is this droning synthesizer crap in DBZ?" And I get warm nostalgic feelings for the English vocal songs, too. OK, the theme song was dumb ("never running from a real fight"...what show were they watching? lol), but the insert songs, though admittedly cheesy, were quite catchy. "My Only Love", oh my god, they blew my young mind with that scene! Damn, now I want to dig out the soundtrack cassette tape and reminisce...

And this post ended up being entirely about the old versions of the shows rather than the new. Uh, so...about that Kai and Crystal, eh? Since the subject of music came up, is it better to have the bland, unmemorable soundtrack of Crystal (seriously, if you asked me to hum one of the background tunes, I couldn't think of a single one), or the dichotomy of Boo arc Kai music that ranges from "OMG, that was amazing!", to "...the fuck was THAT?"

[Mosaic]

I've always thought the DiC soundtrack was very good. Yeah, replacing the original music sucks, but at least what they made was fitting for the show. I remember watching both Sailor Moon and DBZ dubs back in the day and comparing their soundtracks like, "Sailor Moon sounds good, but what the fuck is this droning synthesizer crap in DBZ?" And I get warm nostalgic feelings for the English vocal songs, too. OK, the theme song was dumb ("never running from a real fight"...what show were they watching? lol), but the insert songs, though admittedly cheesy, were quite catchy. "My Only Love", oh my god, they blew my young mind with that scene! Damn, now I want to dig out the soundtrack cassette tape and reminisce...

I always felt like the DIC music sounded cheap compared to the original score. And most of the soundtrack was instrumental variations of the Sailor Moon theme. It's still leagues ahead of any Dragon Ball Z dub music. I was on and off with the insert songs. Some were good, some were bad, most were delightfully cheesy. I did love how CWI actually dubbed a few of the insert songs, even if the lyrics were bad (Aino Senshi dubbed was especially awful).

And this post ended up being entirely about the old versions of the shows rather than the new. Uh, so...about that Kai and Crystal, eh? Since the subject of music came up, is it better to have the bland, unmemorable soundtrack of Crystal (seriously, if you asked me to hum one of the background tunes, I couldn't think of a single one), or the dichotomy of Boo arc Kai music that ranges from "OMG, that was amazing!", to "...the fuck was THAT?"

I haven't seen Kai Boo yet, so I can't comment. I still have yet to find a piece of music in Crystal that is remotely memorable.

[Cold Skin]

The mystery track is great, and the one when Venus shows up on the roof after saving Sailor Moon is hugely great.
Oh, and the one when Mars transform's quite thrilling.
Well, pretty much all transformations in general.

Oh, anyway, pretty much all BGM serve their rightful purpose of emotionally illustrating the events, just like in Kai's Boo arc.
The soundtrack is so much better than what it was in the 90s (no surprise there), but a few of the old anime's tracks are still quite great.

[coola]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdwtEBaRBoo Poor Chibi-usa That's one of things i don't understand, popularity of Shin Chan in Japan, i find his voice to be very annoying, and humor is too strange for me (And i like Dr.Slump, so I'm used to strange things )

[JulieYBM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdwtEBaRBoo Poor Chibi-usa That's one of things i don't understand, popularity of Shin Chan in Japan, i find his voice to be very annoying, and humor is too strange for me (And i like Dr.Slump, so I'm used to strange things )

Shin-chan is well directed and animated, which plays a part in why it is so beloved.

[coola]

Well, i admit that the only thing Shin Chan releated i saw, was Kamen Rider Den-O parody.

[JulieYBM]

Well, i admit that the only thing Shin Chan releated i saw, was Kamen Rider Den-O parody.

It's got good animation, especially in the films.

[Kid Buu]

I actually like the songs for the DiC dub, but they are no "Ai No Senshi," "Moon Revenge," or "La Soldier." R truly has some amazing climaxes, mainly because Usagi was still allowed to kill the villain instead of just building her up to fight them and just healing them instead.

The BGM in Kai Buu Arc is just bland, and it seems like they are actually trying to riff Falcouner. Although allegedly the only reason they are making Buu Arc Kai was for the Western Audiences in mind, so maybe that is why.

[ImmaDeker]

Incidentally, Yasuko Kobayashi was the head writer for live-action Sailor Moon. She's head written a lot of other toku shows, most of which are well liked.

They're also dogshit, so there's that.

I'll never understand Kobayashi's popularity. Ever. Even by Sentai's own standards, her stuff is incredibly dumbed down.

[coola]

Episode 15 watched, this 3 week waiting time was really long Fortunately, episode was really good, nice to see Usagi spending time with friends, and we even see Rei personality. They followed manga surprisingly well, even including nun combustion. Unfortunately, if you were fan of fleshed out Ayakashi sisters in original R, you won't find it in Crystal, Koan was dealt with very quickly, and, if they keep follow manga, so will rest of sisters