Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

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Re: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

Post by Hugo Boss » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:48 pm

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Tzigi wrote:But on the other hand getting new Potara isn't that difficult - just think of Gohan's arrival in Kaioshinkai. His Potara appears out of thin air with his clothes when Kibito uses his Clothes Beam
I don't think Kibito made real Potara for Gohan, they should be normal earings that look like the Potara (like Zarbon's). How would Kibito create real Potara when he doesn't even know they exist?
Now that's multiplying entities (and - in my opinion - without necessity): why should we assume that Kibito creates a standard Kaioshinkai-dwellers uniform but instead of Potara he creates "Potara-look-a-likes"? Still, you're entitled to your opinion but there's no way either of us can prove theirs.
I like the idea of Kaioshin or Kibito being capable of creating them without noticing their usefulness.

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Re: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:43 pm

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Polyphase Avatron wrote:Vegeto because Gogeta never existed in the canon/manga continuity.
Vegeta knows the fusion dance though. He was watching Goku and the others in the after life. Gogeta could exist in the manga continuity. Toriyama's Gogeta would have been more similar how SSj4 Gogeta was then the super serious Gogeta that we got in Fusion Reborn.
He's seen the dance. That doesn't mean he could do it flawlessly after seeing it 4 years ago.
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Re: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

Post by Cold Skin » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:58 pm

Either of them. In the past, they've only done Vegetto, but Goku is thinking of just the idea of fusion with Vegeta and the power boost it would bring, no matter the way to achieve it.

It could be Vegetto by finding and borrowing more potalas.
It could be Gogeta by taking a few hours to teach Vegeta the dance.

But I don't think Goku means a specific version of the fusion, he thinks of the warrior that would be created regardless of the way they fuse.
And the verdict is pretty clear: it wouldn't be enough to even scratch Beerus anyway. Not even combining the powers of the five Saiyans would have made a difference according to them.

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Re: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:23 pm

Tzigi wrote:Now that's multiplying entities (and - in my opinion - without necessity): why should we assume that Kibito creates a standard Kaioshinkai-dwellers uniform but instead of Potara he creates "Potara-look-a-likes"? Still, you're entitled to your opinion but there's no way either of us can prove theirs.
Like I said, how would Kibito know how to create Potara earings when he doesn't even know they exist? Why would he create magical earings that merge 2 people, when he wants to make normal earings with a specific design?
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Re: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

Post by Hugo Boss » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:48 pm

I guess Kibito didn't intend to create merging items in the first place, but maybe he just didn't know the earrings could do that godlike thing. What would you expect if someone take one of Gohan's earrings and put on their own?

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