Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Gyt Kaliba]

That and I'd kind of like an explanation for Freeza knowing about Super Saiyan God for absolutely no reason that I can think of.

I don't think its necessary. He knew about the ssj legend too. He wanted to keep the saiyans in check, so knowing a thing or other about their race makes sense.
Rumors spread quicky.

That's just it though - there's only two possible sources that Freeza seemingly could have heard about Super Saiyan God from; the Saiyans, or Beerus. The Saiyans apparently didn't even remember that Super Saiyan God was a thing anymore, based on how not even Vegeta, the prince, had ever heard of it before. Beerus would be the most likely candidate, but not only is there any indication that he ever actually met Freeza, he seemingly didn't know about it until his dream either - a dream that happened during or after the whole destruction of the Saiyan race. So as far as we can tell, Freeza has no way of knowing about it...and yet he does. That interests me.

[TheRed259]

From fb.

[Lord Beerus]

Question time!

Which country, outside of Japan, do you think will make the most money in the Box Office for FnF?

My money is on Mexico. They freaking love Dragon Ball. I actually think movie will make just as much money in the Latino countries as it will in the Japan. If not more. Which would be awesome.

[Dyno]

Freeza knowing Super Saiyan God intrigues me as well. I just hope Akira doesn't forget it and explain it in the movie, that would also serves as an allude to Dragon Ball Minus, which could be cool, depending on how Akira deals with it.

[Dyno]

Question time!

Which country, outside of Japan, do you think will make the most money in the Box Office for FnF?

My money is on Mexico. They freaking love Dragon Ball. I actually think movie will make just as much money in the Latino countries as it will in the Japan. If not more. Which would be awesome.

Brazil certainly is one of the top list.

[Lord Beerus]

From fb.

That elevator is a hilariously cruel reminder of Freeza's demise.



It's almost intentional.

[Doctor.]

From fb.

If that's legitimate, that's really awesome propaganda.

[Luso Saiyan]

but not only is there any indication that he ever actually met Freeza

Didn't Beerus mention Freeza at the beginning of Battle of Gods? I seem to recall that it was implied that they knew each other.

[WesMan23]

but not only is there any indication that he ever actually met Freeza

Didn't Beerus mention Freeza at the beginning of Battle of Gods? I seem to recall that it was implied that they knew each other.

Well, Beerus requested Freeza to eradicate the Saiya-Jins, according to the movie, so they would have to have met.

[VegettoEX]

Well, Beerus requested Freeza to eradicate the Saiya-Jins, according to the movie, so they would have to have met.

This was already addressed before on the last page:

No, Beerus didn't have Freeza take care of the Saiyans. He's just kinda happy someone else did the work he was planning to do (but was too lazy), for him.

Was there a line in the English dub that made this more vague, or something? I only watched it the one time in theaters and don't remember off-hand.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Yep. It's never stated in the original. Could it be possible? Sure, but the actual dialogue only implies that Beerus was happy Freeza ended up destroying Vegeta because he was too lazy to do it himself, not that Beerus actually asked him to complete the task for him. Dragon Ball Minus backs this up with Toriyama still having Freeza decide to blow up the planet because of the Saiyans themselves, not because he needs to do what Beerus told him to do.

As of right now, nothing outright says they knew each other. At the very least, the only thing fully confirmed is that Beerus knows of Freeza, and why shouldn't he? He's a super strong space tyrant that has been going around and conquering the universe. We'll have to wait till Revival of F to see if Freeza knew Beerus though, or if he was even aware of him. Should be kind of interesting.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

This looks pretty interesting. Any clues on what it does? If I had to guess, it looks like you scan items with the app or something:
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/id961975503?mt=8
http://lotte-fits.jp/cp/
Nice to see that they're starting to roll out the tie-in promotional stuff.

[Doctor.]

Yep. It's never stated in the original. Could it be possible? Sure, but the actual dialogue only implies that Beerus was happy Freeza ended up destroying Vegeta because he was too lazy to do it himself, not that Beerus actually asked him to complete the task for him. Dragon Ball Minus backs this up with Toriyama still having Freeza decide to blow up the planet because of the Saiyans themselves, not because he needs to do what Beerus told him to do.

As of right now, nothing outright says they knew each other. At the very least, the only thing fully confirmed is that Beerus knows of Freeza, and why shouldn't he? He's a super strong space tyrant that has been going around and conquering the universe. We'll have to wait till Revival of F to see if Freeza knew Beerus though, or if he was even aware of him. Should be kind of interesting.

Well, why would Beerus introduce himself to King Vegeta but not Freeza? It wouldn't make much sense.

[Beerus-sama]

Well, Beerus requested Freeza to eradicate the Saiya-Jins, according to the movie, so they would have to have met.

This was already addressed before on the last page:

No, Beerus didn't have Freeza take care of the Saiyans. He's just kinda happy someone else did the work he was planning to do (but was too lazy), for him.

Was there a line in the English dub that made this more vague, or something? I only watched it the one time in theaters and don't remember off-hand.

This was the mexican dub that have Beerus say "By the way Whis, while I was asleep, did freeza destroy planet Vegeta as I ordered him?"

[Gyt Kaliba]

Well, why would Beerus introduce himself to King Vegeta but not Freeza? It wouldn't make much sense.

Well...just a potshot here but...given how Beerus and Whis act, perhaps Whis knew of how much the Saiyans loved to eat, so Beerus decided to go have himself a feast with all the food they could offer him. Freeza, we don't ever see eating. Heck, I'm pretty sure his love of wine is something that's only in the anime. So while I'm sure he does eat, there's nothing to indicate he has refined taste (all though it wouldn't at all surprise me) or tends to have lots of grub around, something we do know Saiyans would, and something we know Beerus would totally be into.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Well, why would Beerus introduce himself to King Vegeta but not Freeza? It wouldn't make much sense.

Well...just a potshot here but...given how Beerus and Whis act, perhaps Whis knew of how much the Saiyans loved to eat, so Beerus decided to go have himself a feast with all the food they could offer him. Freeza, we don't ever see eating. Heck, I'm pretty sure his love of wine is something that's only in the anime. So while I'm sure he does eat, there's nothing to indicate he has refined taste (all though it wouldn't at all surprise me) or tends to have lots of grub around, something we do know Saiyans would, and something we know Beerus would totally be into.

Well, in terms of an out-of-universe explanation, I'd say it's probably a leftover scene from the original script that they held onto to maintain Vegeta's connection with Beerus.

[FortuneSSJ]

-About original ssjgod-
I would like this saiyan to be connected to Vegeta's Family and be the main reason why they became royalty in first place.

That's just it though - there's only two possible sources that Freeza seemingly could have heard about Super Saiyan God from; the Saiyans, or Beerus. The Saiyans apparently didn't even remember that Super Saiyan God was a thing anymore, based on how not even Vegeta, the prince, had ever heard of it before. Beerus would be the most likely candidate, but not only is there any indication that he ever actually met Freeza, he seemingly didn't know about it until his dream either - a dream that happened during or after the whole destruction of the Saiyan race. So as far as we can tell, Freeza has no way of knowing about it...and yet he does. That interests me.

Oracle fish can be included in 2nd option. Freeza could have ask him or learn about it the same time than Beerus.

Question time!
Which country, outside of Japan, do you think will make the most money in the Box Office for FnF?
My money is on Mexico. They freaking love Dragon Ball. I actually think movie will make just as much money in the Latino countries as it will in the Japan. If not more. Which would be awesome.

Mexico and other Latin Countries. A hardcore fanbase is there.

[Retan]

Well, why would Beerus introduce himself to King Vegeta but not Freeza? It wouldn't make much sense.

Well...just a potshot here but...given how Beerus and Whis act, perhaps Whis knew of how much the Saiyans loved to eat, so Beerus decided to go have himself a feast with all the food they could offer him. Freeza, we don't ever see eating. Heck, I'm pretty sure his love of wine is something that's only in the anime. So while I'm sure he does eat, there's nothing to indicate he has refined taste (all though it wouldn't at all surprise me) or tends to have lots of grub around, something we do know Saiyans would, and something we know Beerus would totally be into.

We see him eating that poor crab in the anime. poor crab.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Personally, the introduction to King Vegeta seemed like a courtesy to me. It came of as Beerus intending to go there and destroy the planet Vegeta. He may not have had a reason to meet with Freeza prior to the trip, but despite the Saiyans being Freeza's lackeys, there would be zero reason to involve him in the matter. Beerus is the Hakaishin; one of the highest gods. He doesn't need the permission of someone like Freeza to do his job. Once he arrived on Vegeta though, they showed humility and threw him a feast. So he decided to spare them that day, and every other time he may have considered going back, he just got lazy because of how far the trip would be (and how much anime he would miss).

[Gyt Kaliba]

Well, in terms of an out-of-universe explanation, I'd say it's probably a leftover scene from the original script that they held onto to maintain Vegeta's connection with Beerus.

Oh I don't doubt that for a minute. I was just trying to cobble together some kind of in-universe explanation that seemed plausible enough.

Oracle fish can be included in 2nd option. Freeza could have ask him or learn about it the same time than Beerus.

That's just it though. Beerus didn't know about 'Super Saiyan God' until his dream. All he knew from the Oracle fish was about a vague 'great adversary' for himself. So that still doesn't cover how Freeza would have known.

That also still goes on the assumption that Freeza actually knew Beerus rather than Beerus just knowing of Freeza. We won't know for sure what the case was until this new movie comes out, but for now I'm kind of assuming the latter. Freeza, in terms of the universe, was a big deal, bigger than any of the threats that came after him (save for maybe Boo, but his original acts of terror were from so long ago that nobody in the mortal universe even remembered him anyway), because he didn't just threaten one particular planet or race of people, he was everywhere in the universe basically. So the idea that Beerus would have heard of him without actually having met him makes perfect sense. Think of it kind of like how Future Trunks knew all about Goku without ever having actually met him. Stories get around.