Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by Dbzk1999 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:55 am

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Dbzk1999 wrote:Nothing says that he knew just how powerful buu was. Or that buu was still around. Just that he was once there
Instead of training to face goku again, he chose to just get cybernetic enhancements
Freeza doesn't like training, that part was pretty clear about him
"Son Goku has become strong enough to defeat Majin Boo."
"That's more than I expected."

He didn't choose, he was forced to, otherwise he'd die. He had more than half his body missing.

He said that, besides Goku, the only one who put a scratch in his true form was his father. Why would he be fighting his father if he doesn't like training?
That doesn't say that freeza knew that buu was still around
Didn't choose? So you're telling me that after getting those enhancements, he DIDN'T choose not to train, when he most certainly could have?
Maybe because king cold was abusive. I see no indication of king cold training him from that, I get an indication that cold occasionally hit his son

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Post by Doctor. » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:02 am

Dbzk1999 wrote:That doesn't say that freeza knew that buu was still around
Didn't choose? So you're telling me that after getting those enhancements, he DIDN'T choose not to train, when he most certainly could have?
Maybe because king cold was abusive. I see no indication of king cold training him from that, I get an indication that cold occasionally hit his son
Why would he know about Boo if he didn't know that he was sealed and could be released at any time?

For all we know, he could have had the power to kill Namek arc SSJ Goku as Mecha Freeza anyway.

Then why didn't Freeza kill him? Freeza is massively stronger.

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Post by Dbzk1999 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:05 am

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Dbzk1999 wrote:That doesn't say that freeza knew that buu was still around
Didn't choose? So you're telling me that after getting those enhancements, he DIDN'T choose not to train, when he most certainly could have?
Maybe because king cold was abusive. I see no indication of king cold training him from that, I get an indication that cold occasionally hit his son
Why would he know about Boo if he didn't know that he was sealed and could be released at any time?

For all we know, he could have had the power to kill Namek arc SSJ Goku as Mecha Freeza anyway.

Then why didn't Freeza kill him? Freeza is massively stronger.
Because buu being sealed could've happened MANY years before freeza was born. For all he knows, buu could just be a powerful being who just eventually disappeared and never reappeared
And yet he should know that goku would get stronger, it's been a year
Maybe because freeza had SOME sense of family

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Post by Doctor. » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:09 am

Well, whatever, I'm sure most questions will be explained once we get a translation.

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Post by Big Momma » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:09 am

This image with Freeza on the ground in pieces has him asking "Where is this place?" so I'm guessing that's him waking up in Hell. As for him not being a cloud...I guess that'd be more "accurate", but this way it's easier to tell that it's Freeza. A minuscule detail like that is incredibly unimportant. We get the point.

So...from what I've seen...after he dies, he wakes up in hell and the Hell Angels put him in a pod to reconstruct him. For what purpose, though? Since we know he didn't train while he was there...


Maybe that was his punishment in Hell. To be restrained and forced to deal with their shenanigans for eternity. :P
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Post by Tunjevina » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:19 am

Why do people have problems with Freeza reaching SSJG level with training?If anyone can do it he can.Not Cell, nor Boo, that's my opinion.Cell reached his Perfect Form, he wasn't built by Dr.Gero to gain his power through training, so we don't even know if and how much stronger he can get with training.He gained his power by drinking humans and absorbing androids.And he certainly can't transform anymore, while Freeza obviously can.And I've seen someone wrote that Boo never trained.. But he spent his entire life fighting and destroying everything in the Universe, that's sort of a replacement for training.
Freeza on the other hand, placed his lazy ass in a hovering couch and let his henchmen do the work.Given enough time for training he should be able to reach much much further then Goku managed with his training, which is SSJ3, so SSJG isn't unreachable IMO for Freeza.
The question is where will he train? I'm almost certain that he will use the ROSAT, cause nothing else make sense.Even if he trained in the distant part of the Universe, Goku, King Kai, Kaioshin or someone else should be able to sense him when he reaches SSJ3 power or more.ROSAT would be the only place where they couldn't sense his power raising.

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Post by Doctor. » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:21 am

Tunjevina wrote:Why do people have problems with Freeza reaching SSJG level with training?
Because the time he has to get that strong is too short. If he could do it with no effort then he could spend an hour training and already get 2x stronger back when he was alive. I wouldn't have a problem if he had 10 years, hell, maybe even 7 or 8, but I highly doubt that's gonna be the case.

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Post by sintzu » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:27 am

Tunjevina wrote:ROSAT would be the only place where they couldn't sense his power raising.
Or somewhere similar cause I don't see how he'll be able to get in without anyone noticing or how he'll even know about it.
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Post by medama_oyaji » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:35 am

haha oh no Tagoma! Oh well, I liked Sorbet's design better anyway :lol:

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Post by TheGameTagerZ » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:37 am

We have the summary as well with a few more details since we have the book.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/02/18/d ... -spoilers/
The manga starts off with a small flashback of Goku turning into a Super Saiyan in front of Frieza which then transitions to Frieza being defeated by Future Trunks. He quickly wakes up from those flashback dreams and appears to be wrapped in a cocoon.

As this happens, Sorbet, who seems to be in charge of Frieza’s forces is upset that his men have been defeated on Namek. Sorbet sends one of his best men, named “Tagoma” to Earth so Frieza can be revived.

It turns out Shenlon is summoned by Pilaf! As this happens Sorbet jumps in and says “I want you to revive Frieza!!”. Shenron then announces that it is possible to revive Frieza but his body has been scattered so his souls cannot return.

Sorbet says that he wants the body to return and so Shenlon grants his wish. This is where Freeza's body disappears from his cocoon in hell and appears in pieces around Sorbet. Meanwhile Piccolo and Teen Gohan can feel his Ki.

Sorbet and Tagoma gather the pieces of Frieza and Sorbet announces that he plans to revive the Freeza army. He then begins to revive Frieza in a revival chamber. As this happens, Frieza begins to remember his battle against Goku on Namek.

Frieza is now revived and arrives in his original form as he begins to kill off some of his underlings and said that “my powers have weakened after being revived. Now it’s time for some revenge”.

Tagoma explains to Frieza that he should just ignore Goku and the others. Hearing this angers Frieza as he blasts Tagoma and sending him out into space. Frieza learns that Goku has become stronger since his death and said to himself that he will also get stronger.

Frieza also learned that Goku defeated Majin Buu and later data was not collected on Goku and the others. He then becomes upset to know that he told Baba that Majin Buu and Beerus should not be able to get in his way.

Frieza then said that he still has power yet to be shown and that it would only take just 4 months to train to defeat Goku in the blink of an eye.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:41 am

redon wrote:Another picture.
That's something else. XD

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Post by sintzu » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:41 am

Good to know they aren't over looking Trunks blasting it to bits plus it seems we're getting the killing machine Frieza that we know from Namek so people now can stop saying it'll be a light hearted movie.
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Post by Doctor. » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:43 am

4 months? What the hell? Oh c'mon!

I also don't get how they revived Freeza if his body was in ashes...

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Post by Tunjevina » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:48 am

Only 4 months? God dammit, there goes my theory about using ROSAT :)

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Post by Doctor. » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:52 am

Unless Freeza has some secret asspull-ish version of the RoSaT where 4 months equals, I dunno, 20 years, I don't see how this is good writing.

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Post by Retan » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:55 am

I personally think it's funny that we don't know what's going on with the heroes and were already making conclusions about the whole movie being bad. :)

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:56 am

At least it's not five minutes.

I still don't see what sets this apart for Torishima yet. Maybe it's something later in the plot.
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Post by Tennessaiyan » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:57 am

sintzu wrote:
Doctor. wrote:The Earth did blow up, so I guess his body was disintegrated then, lol.
After trunks blew him up the ashes would have gone into the dirt and became part of it right ? So after the earth is wished back his parts return to normal.
I like that explanation, but if you think about it, if that was the case, then everything else that had died on earth and disintigrated would return to normal too, heheh.

I'm liking these new pictures coming out though. Am I the only one who doesn't really care about Frieza being in pieces rather than in ashes? It makes it a lot more dark, and continuity is sufficed quite often in films just for more drama. With that, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this plays out in the movie.
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Post by AvatarReiko » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:57 am

So dead people get to keep their bodies now? I was under the impression that was only anime filler. This now raises the question; why didn't Vegeta get to retain his body, but Frieza somehow can?

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Post by Mewzard » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:59 am

Tunjevina wrote:Only 4 months? God dammit, there goes my theory about using ROSAT :)
8 hours in the RoSaT would handle that.

I wonder how Freeza will train.

I really want a Rocky Training Montage. That would make my year, lol.

And Freeza probably has more potential due to how strong he started out. He probably doesn't need 20 years to get as strong as someone who took a quarter of a century to reach his untrained level.
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