Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by sailorspazz » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:39 pm

Avenged wrote: Image
Ooh, finally a full view of Vegeta's outfit. Looks nice! Though, holy shit, look at those side views. Gokuu looks hella bulked out, while Vegeta's super scrawny :lol:

I guess we're not sure of their legitimacy since the source is not yet clear, but they look real. And as for the character descriptions, unfortunately it doesn't look like they give us anything new. Any Vegeta description that starts with "The prideful prince of the Saiyans" is telling me it has nothing new to say (though most of the rest of the description is hidden under a giant fucking watermark, so it's hard to tell if there's anything of interest). And Gokuu's is the standard, "Saiyan raised on Earth...likes fighting strong opponents...yada yada yada"...so yeah, even if these scans are fake, it would only be the designs that are false, because the descriptions don't bother giving any new info.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Bullza » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:40 pm

He already improved. He didn't think he needed to improve more.


Yeah I know that, he said he'd improved but not enough for him to be certain that he could win otherwise he wouldn't have said "probably" or brought his daddy along for help.

If he wasn't certain he could beat Goku then why wouldn't he think he'd need to improve more?
It's possible he hadn't considered how powerful one could get with training until hearing that a measly Saiyan could surpass Majin Buu.


He already witnessed first hand how a measly Saiyan had surpassed him. He wasn't even told that Goku had trained. He immediately worked out how much time he'd need to train to beat Goku so I don't believe for a second that he was that stupid that he didn't realise that training actually makes someone a lot stronger.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:41 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Dyno wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Cell died and came back stronger. Why can't the same be done now. for Freeza?
But Cell didn't die. :eh: And he has Zenkai, that's why when he got back from his destruction, he became stronger. Does Freeza have Zenkai?
Okay, so you say Cell didn't die but then you say he came back from his destruction? See there is no denying Cell died.
He was on the brink of death.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Dyno » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:41 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Okay, so you say Cell didn't die but then you say he came back from his destruction? See there is no denying Cell died.

Well, after he got blasted, he was still alive, that's the difference. He didn't blast himself and died, he blasted himself and somehow was alive. If he in fact had died, he wouldn't come back. But... I will not go so far after that Kakarot's Kamehameha that blasted the upper part of his body, there, he should have died, no doubt at all.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Big Momma » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:47 pm

I think I might have some answers to a lot of the issues going on here.

(Just based on what I've seen so far)

Freeza being revived in pieces

Because it would be cool/funny. Toriyama/Editors probably have some kind of gag to go along with him being in pieces, or just simply think it'd be cool and/or more "recognizable" for him to be in pieces. Think about it; which image is more popular when it comes to Trunks defeating Freeza? The one where his chopped chunks are floating in space next to trunks, or the one where the burning embers are falling to earth? You probably won't find an "In Universe" explanation because there probably isn't one. It's simply storytelling aesthetic.

Freeza coming back at all, and stronger at that

As said above, this isn't the first time we've gotten "New and improved" villains. His latent power 4 months of training, on top of the whole "death" pun, is just a reason they came up with to give him leverage in a fight against the current strength of the cast. He's got that much power hidden within, he can bring it out in only 4 months of training. That's it. It is what it is.
Clearly, the self proclaimed prodigy and genius who ran an entire planet trading organisation didn't stop to consider that maybe he should train to make sure that he could beat the man who almost killed him. No this was something that had to happen twice before he had the common sense to think training might be a good idea.
So basically he's just an idiot then.
No, he didn't. Because, as you (and Goku) has said, he's a fool. An arrogant fool who's so prideful and sure of himself that he probably talked himself into thinking his defeat at the hands of Goku was a farce. And then lost to Trunks because he, with his new Cyborg fittings, once again overestimated his strength.

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You got it. That's probably it. Besides promoting Clover Z, they're only purpose is to be a funny contrast to Freeza. A gag.
"Oh hey they're doing something meaningful...only not since there is no struggle to handle mooks are all so weak anyone beyond Roshi could wave their hand and kill them all".
Except, knowing Dragon Ball, they'll probably end up being really strong despite their looks (another popular "gag" in the series) and wipe the floor with Freeza...or maybe they can't be killed. This is all assuming they even fight at all.


I'm not saying these holes or questionable things aren't there, and there are things I'm a bit "eh?" about, too ( Freeza only "recognizing" the Dragonballs as "mysterious orbs"?) but...like EX said, just chill. Be laid back, be super shounen! :thumbup:
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Kakarot9001 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:03 pm

So let me get this straight... Freeza trains for 4 months that is enough to be on par with Goku post-Boo Saga, right? And he achieve a new form by this training?

Interesting, I guess...

I would like to Freeza fight Kid (or Teen) Trunks to the dead, it would be nice

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Retan » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:08 pm

Man this thread just keeps asking the same darn things. Kinda getting annoying now.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:13 pm

Retan wrote:Man this thread just keeps asking the same darn things. Kinda getting annoying now.
Well can you suggest a new topic to be discussed. Because as far the actual plot of the movie goes, we still don't know much outside of: Freeza is back and will fight Goku. And hey, look, Vegeta and some of the other Z-Fighters will be there.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Retan » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:16 pm

So that means we have to ask and answer the same questions because people are to lazy to go back a little way in the thread.

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Post by Bullza » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:18 pm

Someone should make an all purpose FAQ thread.

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Post by Friezacooler » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:18 pm

[quote="Kakarot9001"]So let me get this straight... Freeza trains for 4 months that is enough to be on par with Goku post-Boo Saga, right? And he achieve a new form by this training?

Thus making Cooler canon XD.

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Post by Doctor. » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:22 pm

Are those imaged of Whis blocking Goku's and Vegeta's hits legitimate?

I'd link it but it has Saiyan Island's watermark on it, so I'd rather not.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Dyno » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:22 pm

Kakarot9001 wrote:So let me get this straight... Freeza trains for 4 months that is enough to be on par with Goku post-Boo Saga, right? And he achieve a new form by this training?

All we have is "Allow me to show you my further evolution!". It can be a new form, it can be just an enhancement of the final form, it can be just Freeza having access to Godly Ki. We don't know that yet.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Bullza » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:25 pm

Doctor. wrote:Are those imaged of Whis blocking Goku's and Vegeta's hits legitimate?

I'd link it but it has Saiyan Island's watermark on it, so I'd rather not.
Oh I see them, I haven't seen them posted on here yet. It'd be cool if it was legit because we haven't seen Whis fight yet.

I remember saying I'd like to see a 2v1 fight.

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Post by Marco Polo » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:31 pm

Since Tagoma is getting killed so soon I wonder if Sorbet will be much of a threat for Piccolo, Gohan and co. :?

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Friezacooler » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:32 pm

Bullza wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Are those imaged of Whis blocking Goku's and Vegeta's hits legitimate?

I'd link it but it has Saiyan Island's watermark on it, so I'd rather not.
Oh I see them, I haven't seen them posted on here yet. It'd be cool if it was legit because we haven't seen Whis fight yet.

I remember saying I'd like to see a 2v1 fight.
That would be a pointless fight, and a waste of time for Whis!!.

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Post by VyeRo » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:35 pm

The scan with Goku and Vegeta looks real enough, but damn, do I hate the way they draw Vegeta nowadays. He's suffering from Lollipop Syndrome, where one's head is too big for their body. Vegeta has always had a smaller build than Goku, but his body was always drawn in proportion to the rest. Now it looks like he barely has a torso. :eh:

This thread is deceiving, I am constantly refreshing in case there is any news and all I get is powerlevels discussions. :lol:

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Post by shadd21 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:38 pm

How long could it be before all pages of the manga are online?

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Bullza » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:39 pm

That would be a pointless fight, and a waste of time for Whis!!.


I think he's just training and sparring with them, that is surely what they're there for. I'd have been surprised if we didn't see something like that actually.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by GokuRules987 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:42 pm

Goku looks like a jedi and whos on the right? ohh yeah its goku's older son XD

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