Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[FortuneSSJ]

It seems a bit odd that Cold is weaker than his son, but yeah... Makes sense, Trunks totally destroyed him, he could transform or whatever... Cold was an unnecessary character after all.

Cell Games Gohan was stronger than Goku.
Only because he's his father, doesn't mean the student can't surpass the master.

[Dyno]

King Cold likely had transformations, as stated by Akira, he also possessed an abnormal power level and therefore he is a mutant in comparison to his race.

Wow. I'm surprised King Cold has become a mainly subject of conversations. I had never seen something like this for his character before.

[danielsan_190196]

Was that image of Goten real?

[EmmaWinters]

Was that image of Goten real?

Of course not.

[TheGmGoken]

Curious. With that Gohan comment does this mean in the future no one but the supporting cast will go SSJ and Goku-Vegeta will be in base all the time? Kinda feel bad for Gohan now. Fighting in black was his trademark.

[Marco Polo]

Was that image of Goten real?

Which one?

[danielsan_190196]

Was that image of Goten real?

Which one?

An image from Dragon Ball Heroes manga, but now I know it's fake.

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

I've seen the movie. And no, Goku was losing power. Very steadily, but he was. After he lost the God form and went back to Base, he still had /some/ fight left but not much. So he got pissed and "powered up" and he didn't even realize he went Super Saiyan. Going Super Saiyan helped maintain that God Form power for a while longer. And then there was him going God at the end, too. They're not all the same power, or else going Super Saiyan and/or Super Saiyan God would be nothing more than a waste of energy, but that clearly wasn't the case. Goku simply just didn't notice. Whether that was due to him being lost in the fight or his anger, whichever. He just didn't notice.

Sintzu is correct, Goku wasn't losing any power, not even steadily. When he powered up to SSJ he did it subconsciously, not intentionally. Through out the entire fight Goku thought he was still fighting at the same SSJG as before, he has to be told he isn't in SSJG and has to visibly check his own being to confirm and question if that's true why is he still at the same level? There was no change in power or performance from base to ssj to ssjg and Goku is no idiot. He notices changes in his power level if his stats is declining or increasing.

Turning SSJ or SSJG added nothing to Goku, its literally a palette swap, well that was the case in BoG, might be different RoF, but for now Base = SSJ = SSJG. Its literally like how everyone back then used to theorized back that turning SSJ would add nothing to Ultimate Gohan other than changing his hair blonde.

...no. You realize that going Super Saiyan wastes energy, right? He may have gone Super Saiyan self-consciously, but going Super Saiyan, if it's the exact same as base form as you say, would have done nothing but make Goku weaker, as at that point the form is just draining energy from him. But no, we see Goku kicking Beerus' ass hardcore. And go to where Beerus fires that Death Ball at him. As a Super Saiyan, he's able to somewhat hold it back. However, when he is then reverted to base form, he cannot. And then, if all 3 (base, ssj and ssjg) are the same, then why did Goku have any trouble at all with that Death Ball? Why did Goku /need/ to go SSJG? Obviously because SSJG >/= SSJ(after God boost) > Base(after God boost).
You would be correct in thinking that yes, the God form did massively improve Goku's base form. But it didn't make Goku "mystic", and no where does it say he does.

[Sora Saiyan]

Well BoG base goku is actually ridiculously stronger than GT base Goku. Wasn't GT base Goku around his Z SSJ3 level? BoG base Goku looked like he was at the very least strong enough to do what Beerus did to SSJ3 Goku, and IMO he was much much stronger than Beerus had shown at that point. That's not including all this extra training he's gonna get.

Anyway Freeza being this strong contradicts GT Freeza. (Can't totally remember, but Freeza was weaker than Cell right?) Even the Hell shown in this movie contradicts GT.

Just trying point out that this movie, and especially Goku's God power up don't match up with GT.

Not really, Goku absorbed godly powers but there is still yet to tell if it's forever the same level. In Hell is not stated who is stronger then who (Freeza or Cell) because then were beated easily the same way and Freeza was beated by Goku base form that is stated in this movie that he will indeed fight Freeza without SSJ

Toriyama just need to explain how Mai, Shuu and Pilaf got older again... I think they reunited the Dragonballs off-screen something similiar to what happened to them in BoG.

Personally I can't see Goku getting weaker, and everything Toriyama has said regarding Goku and his God powers has never hinted at him losing power. Beerus even said Gokus latent power is immeasurable, so he won't get weaker. IMO he's going to be stronger than Beerus in base in the long run.

The Hell that Freeza and Cell were in is totally different than the one shown in the manga for this movie. Also I can't see Goku in GT beating this Freeza in base since he's only around SSJ3 level, unless you think that Freeza will lose this new power and form?
Also on the subject of power, since Beerus is the "strongest in the history of Z" he's above Vegetto who was stated in a GT guide to be as strong as a SSJ4 (well something to that effect ) if Goku gets stronger than that it really won't work.

[bleed0range]

That panel that has Freeza's body parts pulling themselves back together isn't part of the wish? I just assumed the dragon was putting him back together and he couldn't be revived instantly in one piece because he's been dead for so long. Either way it doesn't bother me if he can put himself back together like Cooler, who is to say he couldn't anyway?

[MagicBox]

For everybody who keeps re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reposting the same crap, it really isn't that time-consuming to read a page or two of the thread to catch up before posting. For that matter, read the front page of the website. It takes possibly four minutes total to do all of that. This thread has become incredibly chatroom-ish lately and it's really off-putting. Don't talk if there's nothing to say.

With that said...

Let’s see… I think I can still become a Super Saiyan…

I don't see how this complicates anything. In fact, it solves the whole "problem."

Fans have been clamoring for an answer to this question. "Can Gohan still become a Super Saiyan or not?" If this line is stated, by Gohan, in an official Dragon Ball movie written by Akira Toriyama, then bam. That's it. There's your answer. Pack it up. Everybody go home. Nothing to see here. Move along. Debate over. Thank you. Come again.

"But then why didn't his hair turn golden when he powered up to fight Buu?" Questions like that can be explained with a little fan speculation. We do it all the time. We can think of our own reason. But as far as the main question goes, yes, Gohan can still turn into a Super Saiyan. Confirmed. The end. I'm praying this line is actually in the film.

[Bullza]

He already turned Super Saiyan in the last movie so if he says in this movie that he "thinks" he can still turn Super Saiyan then that doesn't make any sense.

[Doctor.]

For everybody who keeps re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reposting the same crap, it really isn't that time-consuming to read a page or two of the thread to catch up before posting. For that matter, read the front page of the website. It takes possibly four minutes total to do all of that. This thread has become incredibly chatroom-ish lately and it's really off-putting. Don't talk if there's nothing to say.

With that said...

Let’s see… I think I can still become a Super Saiyan…

I don't see how this complicates anything. In fact, it solves the whole "problem."

Fans have been clamoring for an answer to this question. "Can Gohan still become a Super Saiyan or not?" If this line is stated, by Gohan, in an official Dragon Ball movie written by Akira Toriyama, then bam. That's it. There's your answer. Pack it up. Everybody go home. Nothing to see here. Move along. Debate over. Thank you. Come again.

"But then why didn't his hair turn golden when he powered up to fight Buu?" Questions like that can be explained with a little fan speculation. We do it all the time. We can think of our own reason. But as far as the main question goes, yes, Gohan can still turn into a Super Saiyan. Confirmed. The end. I'm praying this line is actually in the film.

He already turned SSJ in the SSJG ritual, so the answer was already in Battle of Gods. Now it just makes it even clearer.

[Marco Polo]

He already turned Super Saiyan in the last movie so if he says in this movie that he "thinks" he can still turn Super Saiyan then that doesn't make any sense.

Totally agreed

[MagicBox]

He already turned Super Saiyan in the last movie so if he says in this movie that he "thinks" he can still turn Super Saiyan then that doesn't make any sense.

And yet, here we are.

The new movie is coming. The blog has already given us this line by Gohan. We'll just have to see if the line turns up elsewhere.

[shinmaru]

Took a look before the admins removed the links (seriously, why are you even trying to post these when they're so clearly against the rules?).

The art is beautiful. I'm really, really impressed.



It's like a nice mix between old Toriyama, new Toriyama and Toyotaro's own style.

The classic SSJ style Is much better especially the hair.

[FortuneSSJ]

I was thinking about Buu and Beerus thing.
Since the beginning, when I read that part i thought Cold said that to Freeza before Namek arc. But it could be the opposite.
When Mecha Freeza awakes, he tells Cold what happened and why he wanted to go Earth. That moment could be when Cold warns him and says that besides the super saiyan, there were other two beings that could harm them.

Freeza is overconfident. Even though he always knew about them (like he knew about the ssj legend), he wouldn't stop being the same guy, unless these two appeared before him.
But for now, I will go for the second option.

[TheGmGoken]

He already turned Super Saiyan in the last movie so if he says in this movie that he "thinks" he can still turn Super Saiyan then that doesn't make any sense.

And yet, here we are.

The new movie is coming. The blog has already given us this line by Gohan. We'll just have to see if the line turns up elsewhere.

The line makes zero sense. He can't think what he already done. It's like me thinking I can play Call of Duty after going 23-5 in Team Deathmatch.

[Marco Polo]

The classic SSJ style Is much better especially the hair.

The first time I saw this image I thought "Woah he looks a lot like Cell Saga Gohan". But it kinda makes sense in a way since Goku was younger in this flashback than in the present, FnF era.

[FortuneSSJ]

He already turned Super Saiyan in the last movie so if he says in this movie that he "thinks" he can still turn Super Saiyan then that doesn't make any sense.

And yet, here we are.

The new movie is coming. The blog has already given us this line by Gohan. We'll just have to see if the line turns up elsewhere.

The line makes zero sense. He can't think what he already done. It's like me thinking I can play Call of Duty after going 23-5 in Team Deathmatch.

You're taking the line to seriously.... Its just a Toriyama/Staff slap to everyone that thinks he couldn't do it anymore.