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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Avenged » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:30 pm

JamesOwnz wrote:I get that they are fans and its nice they are trying.. good for them.

But I thought their Saiyan saga trailer was kind of bad.. just came across as cheesy I don't think Dragon Ball translates to Liveaction... and we've yet to see a Freeza saga trailer... a couple teasers two years ago but nothing since...where is it?
They decided to just take everyone's money again and cancel it.
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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Bullza » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:36 pm

They could definitely make a movie work with the right people behind it.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:01 pm

Bullza wrote:They could definitely make a movie work with the right people behind it.
If a live action DB movie were to ever happen, I'd want Zack Snyder or Guillermo del Toro to direct it. They're such great visionary directors. And a live action DB movie needs a good visionary director.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:18 pm

Zack Snyder is not very good at story telling though. His movies are 50/50 to me.
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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:33 pm

I'd personally go for a CGI Animation rather than a live action film, kinda like that Astro Boy movie, I wish they could do that with Dragon Ball but with a good writer and director, I think Brad Bird would make a good Dragon Ball movie.

As for K & K and their attempts of making an adaptation of Dragon Ball, please no. I'm sure they'll become great filmmakers in the future of they keep making more stuff, but as it is right now? Nope.

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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Bullza » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:39 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Bullza wrote:They could definitely make a movie work with the right people behind it.
If a live action DB movie were to ever happen, I'd want Zack Snyder or Guillermo del Toro to direct it. They're such great visionary directors. And a live action DB movie needs a good visionary director.
Del Toro would be the perfect choice, he's interested in the anime culture as it is which is why he made Pacific Rim, he also wants to make something out of Gantz and Monster. He's already turned a comic into a film with Hellboy and the makeup effects used for that would make me confident with how Piccolo would look. He also produced The Hobbit movies which are also fantasy adventure stories.

If they can pull off Guardians of the Galaxy they could pull off Dragon Ball/Z. They'd have to make some changes like just having the one Piccolo instead of the two and they'd have to cut out material like Pilaf, the Red Ribbon Army and the World Tournaments and some of the gag humour that doesn't work on film but otherwise they could make a very good film that was largely faithful to the series. DBZ would be much easier to adapt faithfully than the original.

Man of Steel shows that the fights can be done now. They could never have pulled it off 10 years ago, maybe even 5.

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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:50 pm

Bullza wrote:
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Bullza wrote:They could definitely make a movie work with the right people behind it.
If a live action DB movie were to ever happen, I'd want Zack Snyder or Guillermo del Toro to direct it. They're such great visionary directors. And a live action DB movie needs a good visionary director.
Del Toro would be the perfect choice, he's interested in the anime culture as it is which is why he made Pacific Rim, he also wants to make something out of Gantz and Monster. He's already turned a comic into a film with Hellboy and the makeup effects used for that would make me confident with how Piccolo would look. He also produced The Hobbit movies which are also fantasy adventure stories.

If they can pull off Guardians of the Galaxy they could pull off Dragon Ball/Z. They'd have to make some changes like just having the one Piccolo instead of the two and they'd have to cut out material like Pilaf, the Red Ribbon Army and the World Tournaments and some of the gag humour that doesn't work on film but otherwise they could make a very good film that was largely faithful to the series. DBZ would be much easier to adapt faithfully than the original.

Man of Steel shows that the fights can be done now. They could never have pulled it off 10 years ago, maybe even 5.
I think Del Toro should direct and write the script with Snyder as producer. That would be the perfect scenario.

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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Bullza » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:58 pm

Despite how horrendous Dragon Ball Evolution was I do think it had the right idea of adapting all of Dragon Ball into one movie so that the sequel would revolve around the events scene in Z.

If they ever try it again they should make...

Dragon Ball - Combining all of the necessary and best parts of the original series into one movie.

Dragon Ball Z - Based on the Saiyan saga.

Dragon Ball Z 3 - Based on the Frieza saga.

Dragon Ball Z 4 - Based on the Cell saga.

Not sure if the Buu saga would work as well.

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Bullza wrote:Despite how horrendous Dragon Ball Evolution was I do think it had the right idea of adapting all of Dragon Ball into one movie so that the sequel would revolve around the events scene in Z.

If they ever try it again they should make...

Dragon Ball - Combining all of the necessary and best parts of the original series into one movie.

Dragon Ball Z - Based on the Saiyan saga.

Dragon Ball Z 3 - Based on the Freeza saga.

Dragon Ball Z 4 - Based on the Cell saga.

Not sure if the Buu saga would work as well.
Yeah, the Buu saga would be REALLY hard to adapt, it's the one saga that I do not see working out as a movie, I think it should end with the Cell saga.

As for Dragon Ball being one big movie, I can see that happening if a lot of characters were to be cut out, there would be a bunch of characters introduced in one movie. I'd personally split it into two. 1st one being kid Goku going after the Dragon Balls and dealing with the Red Ribbon Army (kinda like how The Path To Power did it), and the 2nd one would be the world tournament stuff.

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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:32 pm

Bullza wrote:
Man of Steel shows that the fights can be done now. They could never have pulled it off 10 years ago, maybe even 5.
They could have 5 or 10 years ago seeing the third Matrix movie had the fight scene of Neo vs. Mr. Smith done similar to DBZ. That movie came out 10 years before Man of Steel and had a smaller budget then Man of Steel.
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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Bullza » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:41 pm

The issue with doing a movie based on Dragon Ball is that studios would probably wan't to get to get to Dragon Ball Z as quickly as possible as it's that which was the phenomenon.

I think it'd be doable because Dragon Ball had three tournaments which were really entertaining in the series but just wouldn't work in a film because it'd be repetitive and it'd eat up too much screen time.

An easy workaround would be to not have the tournaments but still have a big fight scene with Goku and Roshi, Goku and Tien and Goku and Piccolo that sorta recreated the final matches of the tournament but just not as part of a tournament.

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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Bullza » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:01 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
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Man of Steel shows that the fights can be done now. They could never have pulled it off 10 years ago, maybe even 5.
They could have 5 or 10 years ago seeing the third Matrix movie had the fight scene of Neo vs. Mr. Smith done similar to DBZ. That movie came out 10 years before Man of Steel and had a smaller budget then Man of Steel.
The final fight between Neo and Smith was very DBZ like but still not good enough for what you'd really want it to be. The aerial fighting and the wire work involved made for some fairly sloppy choreography when compared to the ground fighting. They wouldn't have been able to pull off that fast paced aerial combat that DBZ has so much of back then. Like Man of Steel it'd really need some good CGI to pull it off and it wasn't good enough before.

Even the Man of Steel fight isn't at the level a DBZ fight could be. It would essentially be like making a live action version of the Goku and Beerus fight which would be incredibly difficult and expensive to pull off I imagine.

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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:35 pm

To pull off Man of Steel fights, they need a huge budget. Man of Steel had a budget around $200 million and that would consider to be too risky for a DB movie. Superman is a bigger brand name then Dragon Ball, so it can get away with a big budget. Superman had five movies made in Hollywood before Man of Steel while Dragon Ball only has one.
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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by JamesOwnz » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:13 pm

Avenged wrote:
JamesOwnz wrote:I get that they are fans and its nice they are trying.. good for them.

But I thought their Saiyan saga trailer was kind of bad.. just came across as cheesy I don't think Dragon Ball translates to Liveaction... and we've yet to see a Freeza saga trailer... a couple teasers two years ago but nothing since...where is it?
They decided to just take everyone's money again and cancel it.
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AS for directors on any live action DBZ film I think the Wachowski's would be a good pick... they are true visionary's.

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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Bullza » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:29 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:To pull off Man of Steel fights, they need a huge budget. Man of Steel had a budget around $200 million and that would consider to be too risky for a DB movie. Superman is a bigger brand name then Dragon Ball, so it can get away with a big budget. Superman had five movies made in Hollywood before Man of Steel while Dragon Ball only has one.
Well of course its all about the budget and a DBZ movie done right would be a very expensive movie but at the same time if it were done right I'd think that it'd probably make a lot of money, maybe enough to justify having such a budget.

Of course the original Dragon Ball is much more manageable and cost effective because its fights weren't as grand.

If they made a movie based on Dragon Ball and gave it a realistic budget and it turned out successful and well liked then they'd pump more money into the sequel which would be needed.

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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by GokuRules987 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:10 am

If they are going to do live action series, I just hope that they dont make everyone be asian.
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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Bullza » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:15 am

If they are going to do live action series, I just hope that they dont make everyone be asian.
They wouldn't do that, if it was a Hollywood film anyway as they'd want it to be more internationally appealing.

I think Goku and the other saiyans as well as Bulma and her family could be white and Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, Chi Chi, Yajirobe and Roshi could be Asian. Not much in the way of black characters in the series but Piccolo could be played by a black actor.

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Post by JackyBoi99 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:16 pm

With large movie studios running out of ideas and the fact that certain anime/manga are getting movie adaptions soon, I think that there will definitely be a live action dbz movie.
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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:41 pm

Bullza wrote: If they ever try it again they should make...

Dragon Ball - Combining all of the necessary and best parts of the original series into one movie.

Dragon Ball Z - Based on the Saiyan saga.

Dragon Ball Z 3 - Based on the Freeza saga.

Dragon Ball Z 4 - Based on the Cell saga.

Not sure if the Buu saga would work as well.
I think they would have to ditch Fat Buu if they want the Buu saga to be taken seriously. DBZ has a big story, they would have to cut movies into two in order to make them at least two hours long. The Saiyan saga could be done in one movie but the other sagas may need at least two. Ideas for movie titles:

Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z
Dragon Ball Z: The Terror of Lord Freeza
Dragon Ball Z: Rise of the Super Saiyan
Dragon Ball Z: Arrival of the Androids
Dragon Ball Z: The Cell Games
Dragon Ball Z: The Rebirth of Majin Buu
Dragon Ball Z: The Final Battle
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Re: DBZ U.S live Action Movie will never happen

Post by Bullza » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:13 am

As cool as it would be to have that many movies I think they'd just be better off cutting out scenes that may be considered unnecessary because when you start having too many movies usually franchise fatigue sets in and they stop doing as well.

With the Frieza saga I don't think there'd be any need to put the Ginyu Force in there except for maybe Captain Ginyu. Frieza doesn't need to have four different forms either, two would be enough.

With the Cell saga they shouldn't even bother with Androids 16-19 as they didn't offer much anyway being that they were sort of a failed idea. Trunks should just warn them about Cell instead.

Unlike the anime you couldn't just have the movie be back to back fighting because it'd be way too expensive that way.

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