Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:42 am

^ No, but I can see you are craving some season 2 of AoT. :wink:
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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:43 am

I hope we get an interview with Toriyama and Vegeta's voice actor as well.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:43 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:^ No, but I can see you are craving some season 2 of AoT. :wink:
That ain't happening till next year.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:03 am

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dbzfan7 wrote:Pretty much...admits Goku is number 1 and ends the rivalry....only to go right back to "I surpassed you Kakarotto" again.
He admitted that Goku was a better person not that he could never catch up to his power.
He said Goku was more than just a better person, he's #1. The rivalry should have ended...but nah he says the same generic phrase again that he always says....wooh...
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:09 am

Vegeta gave up his unhealthy rivalry that he was letting consume him. The pair can still have a friendly rivalry (see the food hijinx from the JSAT).
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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:15 am

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He said Goku was more than just a better person, he's #1. The rivalry should have ended.
The rivalry that was filled with hate did end but does that mean there can't be a friendly rivalry between them like there is now ? of course not but then again if something isn't revolved around Gohan then I guess it's bad no matter what.
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Post by Careless Saiyajin » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:15 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Vegeta gave up his unhealthy rivalry that he was letting consume him. The pair can still have a friendly rivalry (see the food hijinx from the JSAT).
That's a well thought out point and I don't see the rivalry ever fully dying even as Vegeta continues to grow as a person.

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Post by Black_Liger » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:19 am

If anything, I'd trust Nowaza-san, at this point, she might remember more of dbz than toriyama so perhaps if this surprises her, means it will surely surprise us.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:00 am

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dbzfan7 wrote:
He said Goku was more than just a better person, he's #1. The rivalry should have ended.
The rivalry that was filled with hate did end but does that mean there can't be a friendly rivalry between them like there is now ? of course not but then again if something isn't revolved around Gohan then I guess it's bad no matter what.
How very hypocritical of you, but alas they always resort that it's a fanboyism thing, typical. Ironically he never said that in the original manga's ending, it was the kanzenban that added the same dribble he always said. Still clear as day his issues follow a rotating door. Either he doesn't learn, or repeats the lesson. Oh I care for my family, now I don't. Now I care again, now I don't. I'm stronger than Kakarotto, curses now I'm not.

Can't really say it better than
Cell Arc: I don't fuck with my family, I'm a warrior. Suddenly Trunks is killed, how dare you kill my son. Both Kakarot and Gohan has surpassed me. I quit

Transition Arc: I will surpass Kakarot at the Tenkaichi Budokai

Boo Arc: I don't give a damn about those two. I'm a warrior! I do this for you Trunks and Bulma. Kakarot you've surpassed me! You're the best. *End of Z* One day I'll show you defeat Kakarot!

BoG: How dare you hit my family! I surpassed you Kakarot!
Wouldn't even call it rivalry. Vegeta just wants to wave his penis around as the biggest dick, Goku doesn't give a shit. It's so one sided this "rivalry" it's embarrassing. Like a bratty child hating someone that might be more special, so he whines and acts like a baby in a fight Goku doesn't care about. It's sad when Goku is the mature one, while Veggie desperately tries to have a dick measuring contest with someone who doesn't give a shit. Goku's greatest rival is himself. Goku lives to surpass and out do himself, not Vegeta.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:05 am

That's funny. It's true. Goku really doesn't give a shit. lol.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:08 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:That's funny. It's true. Goku really doesn't give a shit. lol.
This is literally the rivalry in a nutshell.
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Vegeta: Nyeh why you so better than me ugh. You big meanie..
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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:14 am

dbzfan7 wrote:Wouldn't even call it rivalry,It's so one sided this "rivalry" it's embarrassing.
You do realize that Goku spared his life so he could fight him again right ? and was impressed with how strong he was and wanted to get to that level ? If that's not a rivalry then what is ?
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:21 am

sintzu wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Wouldn't even call it rivalry,It's so one sided this "rivalry" it's embarrassing.
You do realize that Goku spared his life so he could fight him again right ? and was impressed with how strong he was and wanted to get to that level ? If that's not a rivalry then what is ?
You need to fight someone to get stronger. Goku's goal is to be the best he can be. He doesn't care if Vegeta surpasses him, or is stronger. He saw Vegeta as superior, and learned he had a lot to learn. Goku lives by Muten Roshi's lesson of "There's always someone stronger". So Goku tries to be the best he can be. He lives to surpass only himself. Vegeta lives to fight in a dick measuring contest no one else cares for. Vegeta wants his penis to be the biggest, Goku just wants to get stronger and stronger and break his limits. He doesn't get angry if someone is stronger, he gets excited towards a new realm of strength for himself to achieve.
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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:33 am

dbzfan7 wrote:Vegeta lives to fight in a dick measuring contest no one else cares for.
Lived is the right word here but that doesn't mean they aren't rivals anymore.

They're training together under the same master so there's no way they won't be trying to outshine one another.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:38 am

sintzu wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Vegeta lives to fight in a dick measuring contest no one else cares for.
Lived is the right word here but that doesn't mean they aren't rivals anymore.

They're training together under the same master so there's no way they won't be trying to outshine one another.
Goku only cares to be the best he can be. If Vegeta were the superior one between the two of them, he wouldn't care. Goku would be bored if he was on top of the world. He hopes stronger people than him come, cause then he has something to strive towards. Completely the opposite of Vegeta, who doesn't want that.
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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:49 am

dbzfan7 wrote:If Vegeta were the superior one between the two of them, he wouldn't care.
He doesn't hate Goku anymore for being stronger which was said at the end of the Buu arc and with that said why can't there be a friendly rivalry between them like in the 2008 special and BOG ?
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:11 am

sintzu wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:If Vegeta were the superior one between the two of them, he wouldn't care.
He doesn't hate Goku anymore for being stronger which was said at the end of the Buu arc and with that said why can't there be a friendly rivalry between them like in the 2008 special and BOG ?
He still kinda does, hence the whole "In that moment I surpassed you Kakarotto" thing. Which Goku obliged to without a care.

Wouldn't even call it that. It's just a less obsessed Vegeta, and a Goku who just like since the very beginning, still couldn't give less of a shit. There rivalry is basically this.


If Vegeta surpasses Goku

Goku: You surpassed me Vegeta, awesome job.

Vegeta: I don't need your praise Kakarotto.


If Goku surpasses Vegeta

Vegeta: Fuck you Kakarotto.

Goku: What...did I do something wrong?
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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:15 am

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He still kinda does, hence the whole "In that moment I surpassed you Kakarotto" thing. Which Goku obliged to without a care.
It's because Goku was making fun of how he flipped out on Beerus for hitting Bulma which is more of a shut up kind of respond rather then a I hate and want to kill you like before.

Another thing is he was completely ok with helping Goku reach Ssjg and when he was trying to stop Beerus' attack he was cheering him on with the rest of the gang.

If you still want to think he still hates him then fine but don't act like it's a fact cause it isn't it's just what you want to see and believe.

Fact of the matter is since they're fight during the Buu arc Vegeta has made it crystal clear that not only does he not hate Goku anymore but he looks at him as a friend now and that's something that will continue in the upcoming movie.
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Post by ConfusedPhantom » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:19 am

dbzfan7 wrote:
sintzu wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:If Vegeta were the superior one between the two of them, he wouldn't care.
He doesn't hate Goku anymore for being stronger which was said at the end of the Buu arc and with that said why can't there be a friendly rivalry between them like in the 2008 special and BOG ?
He still kinda does, hence the whole "In that moment I surpassed you Kakarotto" thing. Which Goku obliged to without a care.

Wouldn't even call it that. It's just a less obsessed Vegeta, and a Goku who just like since the very beginning, still couldn't give less of a shit. There rivalry is basically this.


If Vegeta surpasses Goku

Goku: You surpassed me Vegeta, awesome job.

Vegeta: I don't need your praise Kakarotto.


If Goku surpasses Vegeta

Vegeta: Fuck you Kakarotto.

Goku: What...did I do something wrong?
I'm convinced Vegeta is a tsundere. XD

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:31 am

sintzu wrote:
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He still kinda does, hence the whole "In that moment I surpassed you Kakarotto" thing. Which Goku obliged to without a care.
It's because Goku was making fun of how he flipped out on Beerus for hitting Bulma which is more of a shut up kind of respond rather then a I hate and want to kill you like before.

Another thing is he was completely ok with helping Goku reach Ssjg and when he was trying to stop Beerus' attack he was cheering him on with the rest of the gang.

If you still want to think he still hates him then fine but don't act like it's a fact cause it isn't it's just what you want to see and believe.
I never said he had that kind of hate, he just still has the same issue as always. "Goku stronger me mad."

No he wasn't, he even complained that "Why does Kakarotto get to be the God" which Bulma shuts Vegeta up about his whining.

When did I suggest that. He doesn't hate Goku, my comment was merely a satire of their relationship. He just still has that penis measuring contest that no one else cares about. It's one thing when two rivals try to be better than one another, but it's sad when one guy wants their dick to be larger, while the other just couldn't care less. If Vegeta succeeds, Goku is happy for him. If Goku succeeds, Vegeta gets moody instead of just taking it as a chance to grow stronger and reach new limits. It's possible he'd stop entirely if he forever was above Goku.
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