Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?

[GokuRules987]

We know that all saiyans are born with dark hair and a tail, but just imagine if a saiyan was purely born as a super saiyan baby. Because that would give him huge advantages like having a huge power level from birth. maybe around 20 million or something, not having too transform into super saiyan and waste your ki or put your body intro strain. Your basically a pure born super saiyan with blonde hair and blue eyes. Maybe it would be something that is possible in future of dragon ball after Goku and Vegeta the whole saiyans on earth might have pure born super saiyan children or what do you think?

[fadeddreams5]

I think that is excellent fan fiction material.

I'd call this one...Vengenze. It's a play on the word, "Vengeance." And he wants revenge on Goku for killing their [*gasp*] older Brother, Raditz.

[Sedorna]

But isn't anger necessary for the transformation to happen for the first time? Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan, and Future Trunks in the TV special, were all explicitly shown to have first become a Super Saiyan because of intense rage. The only characters who haven't are Goten and present day Trunks, and that's only because we don't actually see when they first transform. It makes sense to assume that they were angry when they first transformed.

So, can an unborn baby experience the anger necessary to trigger the transformation?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Perhaps manga Goten and Trunks had already gone Super Saiyan in the womb after being influenced by their mother's hormones while they were angry. =P
This is meant to sound ridiculous.

[TJVY]

I hope not, not really a fan of the younger fighters having these massive power levels without having to do anything.

[Sedorna]

Perhaps manga Goten and Trunks had already gone Super Saiyan in the womb after being influenced by their mother's hormones while they were angry. =P
This is meant to sound ridiculous.

Actually, that brings up a good point. How sensitive are Saiyan fetuses to outside influences? We know that in Battle of Gods Pan was able to take part in the ceremony, even though she was so undeveloped that Videl wasn't even showing. It's possible that Saiyan, or part Saiyan at least, fetuses might be abnormally sensitive to their mother's emotions.

[Lord Beerus]

I hope not. Because that would be some bullshit. And that is saying a lot.

[rereboy]

We know that all saiyans are born with dark hair and a tail, but just imagine if a saiyan was purely born as a super saiyan baby. Because that would give him huge advantages like having a huge power level from birth. maybe around 20 million or something, not having too transform into super saiyan and waste your ki or put your body intro strain. Your basically a pure born super saiyan with blonde hair and blue eyes. Maybe it would be something that is possible in future of dragon ball after Goku and Vegeta the whole saiyans on earth might have pure born super saiyan children or what do you think?

Broly was basically a SSJ from birth. He didn't have to achieve it, it was there from the start.

[GokuRules987]

We know that all saiyans are born with dark hair and a tail, but just imagine if a saiyan was purely born as a super saiyan baby. Because that would give him huge advantages like having a huge power level from birth. maybe around 20 million or something, not having too transform into super saiyan and waste your ki or put your body intro strain. Your basically a pure born super saiyan with blonde hair and blue eyes. Maybe it would be something that is possible in future of dragon ball after Goku and Vegeta the whole saiyans on earth might have pure born super saiyan children or what do you think?

Broly was basically a SSJ from birth. He didn't have to achieve it, it was there from the start.

You dont understand Broly might have had a huge power level but he was born in his base form. A normal saiyan who can transform into a super saiyan can only stay in that form for limited time because it constantly drains his energy.
While someone who was born as a super saiyan, doesn't need too transform into a super saiyan because he's already a super saiyan. his genes allow him to have super strength, durability and power level that is beyond normal saiyan aswell as super saiyan facial features like blonde hair and blue eyes.

[rereboy]

Unless you are saying that the OP is talking about a SSJ that doesn't have a base form and is constantly in SSJ, then Broly is already a saiyan who was born with SSJ.

[GokuRules987]

Unless you are saying that the OP is talking about a SSJ that doesn't have a base form and is constantly in SSJ, then Broly is already a saiyan who was born with SSJ.

Thats not ssj form though.

[dbgtFO]

I'd imagine you can if you were the son/daughter of a potara merged Saiyan, who himself was "born" in Super Saiyan eg. instead of heeding Elder Kaioshin's advice Goku and Vegeta turn SS before merging and Vegetto is born as a Super Saiyan, making that his normal form.

[Doctor.]

I'd imagine you can if you were the son/daughter of a potara merged Saiyan, who himself was "born" in Super Saiyan eg. instead of heeding Elder Kaioshin's advice Goku and Vegeta turn SS before merging and Vegetto is born as a Super Saiyan, making that his normal form.

They'd probably die of Ki loss sooner or later.

[dbgtFO]

I'd imagine you can if you were the son/daughter of a potara merged Saiyan, who himself was "born" in Super Saiyan eg. instead of heeding Elder Kaioshin's advice Goku and Vegeta turn SS before merging and Vegetto is born as a Super Saiyan, making that his normal form.

They'd probably die of Ki loss sooner or later.

Perhaps..but they'd have enough time to knock up Bulma or Chi Chi

[GokuRules987]

I'd imagine you can if you were the son/daughter of a potara merged Saiyan, who himself was "born" in Super Saiyan eg. instead of heeding Elder Kaioshin's advice Goku and Vegeta turn SS before merging and Vegetto is born as a Super Saiyan, making that his normal form.

They'd probably die of Ki loss sooner or later.

Who's going to die of ki loss?

[Dayspring]

SSJ comes from hitting a wall in one's growth in potential and using anger to increase your power anyway. So if a Saiyan's potential is very low, then it's possible the act of being born made the baby go SSJ. Example: PL of 1, potential of 1. Doctor smacks the baby's ass, causing it to get angry and go SSJ. Ta-da! SSJ with a PL of 50.

It would explain why Onio in Neko Majin Z is a Super Saiyan.

[rereboy]

Unless you are saying that the OP is talking about a SSJ that doesn't have a base form and is constantly in SSJ, then Broly is already a saiyan who was born with SSJ.

Thats not ssj form though.

But a saiyan born with SSJ doesn't have to be in SSJ all the time. He can have a base form. That's basically what Broly is, a saiyan born with SSJ but that doesn't have to constantly be in SSJ.

What you are asking for is a SSJ that doesn't have a base form or that is constantly in SSJ, which I don't see what would be the point.

[GokuRules987]

Yes I'm talking about an SSJ that doesnt have a base form. Being born as a raw Super saiyan with super saiyan being your base form.

[Hitiro]

Yes I'm talking about an SSJ that doesnt have a base form. Being born as a raw Super saiyan with super saiyan being your base form.

Wouldn't that be impossible? To not have a base form would mean you lack every genetic element needed to be a Saiyan without a base form. Thus you would just be an incoherent mess like Bio Broly. The only difference between a base Saiyan and a SSJ is the SSJ gene. You can't not have a base form without removing everything that makes you, you.

[GokuRules987]

Yes I'm talking about an SSJ that doesnt have a base form. Being born as a raw Super saiyan with super saiyan being your base form.

Wouldn't that be impossible? To not have a base form would mean you lack every genetic element needed to be a Saiyan without a base form. Thus you would just be an incoherent mess like Bio Broly. The only difference between a base Saiyan and a SSJ is the SSJ gene. You can't not have a base form without removing everything that makes you, you.

Thats why I'm talking about this being a complete 2 different saiyan races, one saiyan race is normal saiyan race and the other saiyan race is pure super saiyan race in their baseform. The normal saiyan race is often viewed as inferior race by super saiyan race and the only way normal saiyans can beat super saiyans is if they find away to unlock that power by anger and transformation and becoming a super saiyan while super saiyan race doesnt need to do any of that because their already naturally strong.